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Donald Trump Just Got a New Nickname, and It's Not Pretty

Joe Scarborough coined Trump 'Amnesty Don' and the moniker went viral on social media.



Donald Trump has dished out quite a few hard-hitting nicknames during his campaign, but how will he react now that one's been pinned on him?

“Think about this: for 14 months, Amnesty Don– and a lot of people are calling him Amnesty Don. People are saying it, they’re calling him Amnesty Don. Amnesty Don, that’s what people are calling him.. I’m not calling him that, Amnesty Don. Hashtag #AmnestyDon,” Scarborough said.

"For 14 months, Amnesty Don has been putting illegal immigration at the center of Amnesty Don's campaign," Scarborough said. "And yet, nobody in Amnesty Don’s own campaign can tell you what Amnesty Don’s position [on this issue] is."

The “Amnesty Don” rant became a social media sensation, with #AmnestyDon cementing its status as the No.1 trending topic on Twitter for a good portion of the morning.
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I heart Joe Scarborough!! :ok :lol:
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"Amnesty Don"? To me that sounds like a rubbish nickname. Artificial, without wit, and not even vaguely insulting. Unless it's pronounced "I'm Nasty"
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:"Amnesty Don"? To me that sounds like a rubbish nickname. Artificial, without wit, and not even vaguely insulting. Unless it's pronounced "I'm Nasty"

To the Alt-right the word "amnesty" has the same painful resonance as blasphemy does for you. It is an emotionally richer association for them because they cannot stand the idea of missing an opportunity to punish poor people.


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Ah, so it's not pretty to Trump-idiots then. Got it! And thank you for explaining.
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the anti-amnesty meme is throughout the Republican party. Close to 100%

Trump is the Republican candidate because before his campaign began he researched what messages were effective to GOP audiences and those that got the biggest reaction he kept and amplified. the "hate foreigners" message was one such.

Nearly every other GOP candidate fell over themselves trying to be against amnesty and Rubio even had to pretend to oppose legislation he had proposed.


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I am opposed to amnesty. I am also keen to have very long jail terms for employers of illegal aliens.

But I wouldn't vote for Trump on a bet. Or at gunpoint (I like to believe)
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The Donald's surrogates currently are saying the plan would be humane, and focus on deporting criminals.

But just crossing the border 'informally' at the lower border is putting many who are apprehended into federal prisons for terms of more than one year. Just getting here without paperwork is a crime. A 'criminal' is one who does crime.

I have learned there are crimes and there are crimes involving moral turpitude. The latter is the really bad category. There is a case now wending it way through the appeals system that seeks to answer the question "Is it a crime of 'moral turpitude' to use a fake social security number?"

Think about that one. An 'illegal alien' gets a job and submits false documents with a fake SSN. Not stolen identity, but fake. No one has been issued that number. The worker gets money taken out of their pay which goes to the feds. The number is fake. NO ONE WILL EVER GET ANY BENEFIT from that number. The employer also pays into that nonexistent account, but no more than they would have paid for a
legal worker.

Who benefits from this crime of using the fake SSN? Is this a dangerous hoodlum who must be removed from our society?

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Burning Petard wrote:The Donald's surrogates currently are saying the plan would be humane, and focus on deporting criminals.

... "

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Contradicting what he has said for a year now.

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Don't worry he's foaming at the mouth right now with all the extreme stuff. No Amnesty Don, get the fuck out and apply like everybody else, who cares if you've been here paying taxes you'll never get back and which has helped sustain our social security system.

Fuck you!! There WILL BE NO AMNESTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Trump just now said that we will build the wall at a "reasonable cost." I guess Nieto set him straight...

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A GREAT WALL, no less! :roll:

Wonder if I will have TRUMP emblazoned in huge letters every few miles? The GREAT Wall of TRUMP. :roll:
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Looks like Amnesty Don has gone soft again:

Trump promises 'quite a bit of softening' on immigration

The Republican nominee offers up another baffling statement on his signature campaign issue.

Just hours after reviving his harsh rhetoric on immigration, Donald Trump on Thursday morning insisted that there is actually “quite a bit of softening” in how he’s approaching his signature campaign issue.

The Republican nominee’s latest comment — to conservative talk radio host Laura Ingraham, no less — makes it even harder to pin down just where Trump is landing on the hot-button issue, and amplifies the pick-what-you-want-to-hear nature of his talk on immigration.

“You’re going to be asked this, so I might as well ask it,” Ingraham said to Trump during a radio interview. “The line last week [was] you were softening on immigration, then you come out with a very specific, very pro-enforcement plan last night. Where’s the softening?”

Passing on the chance to disavow the prior “softening” narrative, Trump insisted instead, "Oh, there’s softening. Look, we do it in a very humane way, and we’re going to see with the people that are in the country. Obviously I want to get the gang members out, the drug peddlers out, I want to get the drug dealers out. We’ve got a lot of people in this country that you can’t have, and those people we’ll get out."

"And then we’re going to make a decision at a later date once everything is stabilized," Trump continued. "I think you’re going to see there’s really quite a bit of softening."


The comments came after Trump consoled grieving immigration hard-liners worried Trump was flirting with amnesty for undocumented immigrants, as he delivered a fiery speech that could have been ripped from his early campaign days.

Speaking from Phoenix after having visited with the Mexican president, Trump railed for nearly 90 minutes about how undocumented immigrants are hurting America. He promised to build his border wall, make Mexico pay for it, and to empower a massive new “deportation task force” of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents to round up undocumented immigrants.

“People will know that you can’t just smuggle in, hunker down, and wait to be legalized. Those days are over,” Trump declared.

“Wow. This doesn't sound like ‘softening.’ GO, TRUMP!!!” tweeted conservative commentator Ann Coulter on Wednesday night.

“I think it’s arguably the best day of his campaign,” said Brent Bozell, a prominent conservative.

Trump’s hard-edged speech also managed to alienate several of his Hispanic supporters, who quickly distanced themselves from the Republican nominee.

“I was a strong supporter of Donald Trump when I believed he was going to address the immigration problem realistically and compassionately,” said Jacob Monty, a member of Trump’s National Hispanic Advisory Council who has aggressively made the Latino case for Trump. “What I heard today was not realistic and not compassionate.”


But embedded in Trump’s speech, underneath all the bluster, was still some of the talk that days before had generated a flood of headlines that Trump was easing up on his severe immigration policies.

While Trump had previously threatened to use a deportation force to round up all 11 million undocumented immigrants, the billionaire on Wednesday night emphasized that his new deportation task force would focus on deporting criminals — an approach very similar to President Barack Obama’s.

“Our enforcement priorities will include removing criminals, gang members, security threats, visa overstays, public charges,” Trump said.

And he said that “anyone who has entered the United States illegally is subject to deportation,” but he did not say that all undocumented immigrants would have to live in fear of having their door knocked on by his triple-strength ICE deportation team.

While much of Trump’s talk on immigration has been difficult to parse, some of the elements of Wednesday night’s speech sounded similar to his comments to Fox News’ Sean Hannity and CNN’s Anderson Cooper that landed him in hot water with conservatives last week.

"It's a process. You can't take 11 [million] at one time and just say 'boom, you're gone,'" Trump told Cooper last Thursday, as he defended his latest immigration comments. "I don't think it's a softening. I've had people say it's a hardening, actually."

Trump on Ingraham Thursday morning again paired his talk to being “very humane” with tougher talk of securing the border — throwing meat to conservatives and independents alike.

Trump added that he feels "strongly that we have to stabilize the border, we have to absolutely stabilize the border and we have to have a strong border, otherwise we don’t have a country."

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Latinos For Trump Founder Warns Of 'Taco Trucks On Every Corner' If Trump Loses

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[I love the "WTF?" expression on Reid's face :D ]

If Trump wins in November, we're going to get a big, beautiful wall and maybe the end of civilization as we know it. And if he loses? Taco trucks on every corner, according to Latinos for Trump Founder Marco Gutierrez, who inexplicably thinks this delicious promise sounds like a scary threat.

"My culture is a very dominant culture," Gutierrez told Joy Reid last night on MSNBC. "It's imposing, and it's causing problems. If you don't do something about it, you're going to have taco trucks on every corner."

Is... that a bad thing? Gutierrez is making this sound like a bad thing, but taco trucks on every corner is a platform most people can get behind. Who looks at a taco truck and feels threatened? Who looks at a taco truck and feels anything but joy?

This is a far cry from Trump's infamous claim that immigrants are going to be raping and stealing from (white) Americans—this is a promise of a better future. Are Trump's surrogates now accidentally admitting that the most dangerous thing about immigration is an abundance of taco trucks?

Reid attempted to let Adriano Espaillat comment on Gutierrez's bizarre campaign promise, but all he managed to say was "I'm offended. Our culture says..." before being interrupted by Gutierrez.

"The Spanish never conquered Mexico," :shrug Gutierrez said. "We are a culture that, we have a lot of good things that we're bringing to the United States, but we also have problems."

The Spanish actually did conquer what is now Mexico (and they did so very effectively), but Gutierrez could be referring to the fact that the country still has a sizable indigenous population—or to Trump's argument that immigrants often refuse to assimilate. Or maybe Gutierrez doesn't even know what he's trying to say—he sounds like a desperate man frantically blowing into a defective dog whistle.

"Sometimes it's just not going to work out," Trump said during an immigration-focused speech in Arizona on Wednesday which was so heinous it convinced members of his Hispanic Advisory Council to finally give up on him. "It's our right, as a sovereign nation, to choose the immigrants that we think are the likeliest to thrive and flourish and love us."
http://gothamist.com/2016/09/02/make_ta ... _again.php

I wholeheartedly agree with the author of that article...

I love tacos; I can think of a lot worse things then a taco truck on every corner...

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Two tacos in every pot, and a taco truck in every garage?

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Taco trucks on every corner?!?!?!?! :shock:

The horror!!!!! :o
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If illegal immigration is going to produce a taco truck on every corner, I may have to re-think my position on the issue...
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I know right?! But I'd want to be sure there were also tamales on offer . . .
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Some flan would be nice too...
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I think I am with Gerald Ford--I never learned how to eat a Tamale. And that was the dominant street food in Kansas City when I was a kid.

But tacos--absolutely. The big deal before we married for me and my future wife was to go to a mexican restaurant (Los Coralles) around 9th and Broadway after midnite. ( She did not get off work until 11:30) The place was busy with local families with little kids who still preferred to eat late at nite. The house special was '2 and 2' and cheap. Two tacos, two enchiladas, refried beans, and a simple lettuce salad. Usually we were the only Norte Americanos in the place.

Bring on the Taco Trucks.

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