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I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:17 pm
by Lord Jim
CNN 2012 Poll: Obama and Palin going in different directions?
Washington (CNN) – As the start of the next presidential campaign nears, a new national poll suggests that President Barack Obama's tax-cut compromise with congressional Republicans did not hurt his standing among Democrats, while former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin may be dropping in the eyes of Republicans.
According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Tuesday, 78 percent of Democrats questioned in the poll say they want to see Obama at the top of their party's ticket in 2012, with only 19 percent saying they would prefer someone else as the Democratic presidential nominee. The 19 percent figure is the lowest figure since March, when the question was first asked.
Full results (pdf)
Many liberal Democrats opposed the tax rate compromise because it included provisions that helped the wealthy. Although previously released numbers indicate the president's approval rating among self-described liberals dropped from 79 percent in November to 72 percent in December, the survey suggests that when it comes to the next presidential election, the tax deal may not be hurting him with the progressive wing of the party.
"Among liberal Democrats, 85 percent say they want to see the party re-nominate Obama in 2012," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Among moderate Democrats, his support is almost that high."
In the battle for the GOP presidential nomination, the survey suggests Palin may have some work to do if she throws her hat in the ring. Only 49 percent of Republicans say that they are likely to support Sen. John McCain's running mate in 2008 for the Republican nomination in 2012.
"That's a huge 18-point drop since December of 2008, when two-thirds of GOPers said they were likely to support Palin. It also puts her well behind potential rivals Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney, and a bit behind Newt Gingrich as well," adds Holland.
Two-thirds of Republicans questioned say they would likely support Huckabee as their nominee in 2012. The former Arkansas governor and 2008 GOP presidential candidate is considering another bid for the White House. So is another candidate from the last election, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. Fifty-nine percent of Republicans say they would likely support Romney. That number drops to 54 percent for former House Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia, who is also contemplating a run for the White House.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll was conducted December 17-19, with 1,008 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... irections/
And here's the link to the full poll:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/image ... 2.poll.pdf
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:16 pm
by rubato
The Republican leadership are trying to isolate Palin by promoting the meme that she is 'unelectable', a way to keep her out of the running without alienating her very large (and very stupid) support base. It gives her a way to save face by claiming she is not running 'for the good of the party' rather than because she is as innocent of thought as a marsupial.
http://voices.kansascity.com/entries/si ... lin-right/
Palin is a self-promoter always on the lookout for the 'main chance'. She'll follow the money and the TV cameras wherever they go.
yrs,
rubato
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:10 pm
by dgs49
The reportage is a little deceptive. If 49% say they would support her and she is "behind" three others,then the question could not have been, "whom would you suppport?" It must have been, "If she were the Republican nominee, would you support her?" There is simply no copulating way that 49% of Republicans as of right now see her as the best choice. The fortunate fact is that the R's will be choosing from a substantial number of first-rate potential nominees in 2012, with SP having about as much chance as Sylvester Stallone had of winning a heavyweight boxing championship.
On the D side, Barry stole the election from Hillary in 2008 - she would have won a head-to-head contest easily at the convention if the votes had not been predetermined - and with her out of the race, the Democrats have "seven dwarfs" as alternatives to Barry for 2012. Of course he is the preferred choice.
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:29 pm
by Sue U
Disappointed??? What are you talking about??? I think it's phenomenal that, after all of Snowbilly's hi-jinx and gross (and I mean
ew, gross!) overexposure, 49% of GOP voters would STILL be dumb enough to put her at the top of the ticket. Especially since
last week's idiotic Sarah Palin poll (there is a mandatory Sarah Palin poll every two days, apparently) said that the gen-pop of this prison nation is pretty much sick to death of her, mostly because these stupid pollsters keep calling them up and asking if they've had enough Sarah Palin yet or do they still want some more.
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:21 pm
by Lord Jim
I think Lawrence O'Donnell, who I disagree with on most things has got this one exactly right:
“Lawrence O'Donnell pegged her this morning on Morning Joe. She's gonna keep firing shots from the peanut gallery and delay the knowledge that she will NOT run for president because she needs to be relevant. He said she's running for billionaire and nothing else and the attention she gets now dries up if she makes it known that she's not running.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Pr ... 94133.html
He went on to say in that
Morning Joe segment, (as I have said) that she will milk it up to the very last minute and then not actually seek the nomination....
Because if she did, she would lose and lose badly and the "mystique" (and the profitability) would be gone....
If 49% say they would support her and she is "behind" three others,then the question could not have been, "whom would you suppport?" It must have been, "If she were the Republican nominee, would you support her?"
Logically, that must have been the way most folks interpreted the question....
As for Governor Huckabee....
I like Mike Huckabee. I think he might make a strong general election candidate; (for starters, there's no credible way to portray Huckabee as "mean"...one of the Dems perennial "go-to" strategies...)
But I think his popularity among GOP voters in this poll is misleading...
I think Huckabee's chances of ever winning the the GOP nomination have been destroyed by the unfortunate outcomes from a series of Pardons and Commutations he granted as Governor of Arkansas...
At the moment, this record is not in the minds of the GOP respondents to this poll...
But once the campaign begins in earnest, you may rest assured that his opponents will make sure that it is....
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:39 pm
by Lord Jim
What we
really need...
Is a Dr. Frankenstein who can create a candidate with Newt Gingrich's intellect, Mike Huckabee's likability, Haley Barbour's managerial skills, and John Thune's rugged good looks....
Now
That's a winner....

Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:46 pm
by Sue U
He said she's running for billionaire and nothing else
Hahahaha! Grifter Queen of the Tundra! If she comes to your town, just be sure to count the silver before she leaves.
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:57 pm
by Lord Jim
Grifter Queen of the Tundra
That sounds like the title of one of those old
Republic Pictures "cliff hanger" serials....
I guess it's too late to get Phyllis Coates to play the starring role....

Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:01 am
by Rick
That's the exact same dress I wear when I'm hunting.
I have one in Blaze Orange for deer season...
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:10 am
by Lord Jim
That's the exact same dress I wear when I'm hunting.
I have one in Blaze Orange for deer season...
Keld, I'll bet you look a rare treat...

Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:22 am
by Lord Jim
Once again...
It's Trivia Time!
What role is Phyllis Coates best known for playing?
As always, no Googling and no help from the studio audience....
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:24 am
by BoSoxGal
A contest for old farts, then?

Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:33 am
by Lord Jim
A contest for old farts, then?

Well BSG, I can see from that response that
you're not as fast as a speeding bullet....
(Oh damn, that's a dead give away...)
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:36 am
by Crackpot
The Flash?
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:45 am
by Lord Jim
The Flash?
That's one wrong...
Over to Kitty Carlisle...
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:57 am
by Gob
Lord Jim wrote:What we
really need...
Is a Dr. Frankenstein who can create a candidate with Newt Gingrich's intellect, Mike Huckabee's likability, Haley Barbour's managerial skills, and John Thune's rugged good looks....
Now
That's a winner....

And Sarah Palin's tits.
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:54 am
by Crackpot
The Hulk?
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:00 am
by Rick
He's not perfect but I like Huckleberry...
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:04 am
by Lord Jim
That's two down...
Orson Bean...
Re: I'm Sure This Will Disappoint Sue
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:33 am
by loCAtek
I'm glad, I'm so young to be counted out of this demographic...
