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"Indivisible"....

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:42 pm
by Lord Jim
Inside the protest movement that has Republicans reeling

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich — Hill Republicans are openly accusing liberal mega-donors of bankrolling the tide of local protesters storming their offices. They’re beefing up their physical protection from demonstrators. And they’re imploring out-of-state critics to stop clogging their phone lines.

“It’s just yelling and criticizing. There is no substance,” said Rep. Dave Brat (R-Va.). “It’s a protest against the election.”

To which Angel Padilla, a co-founder of the group organizing the demonstrations that have spread across the country in a matter of weeks, had this to say: You'd better get used to it.

"We want to pressure these members of Congress for as long as we have this president,” Padilla said.

Dubbed “Indivisible,” the group launched as a way for Padilla and a handful of fellow ex-Democratic aides to channel their post-election heartbreak into a manual for quashing President Donald Trump’s agenda. They drafted a 26-page protest guide for activists, full of pointers on how to bird dog their members of Congress in the language of Capitol insiders.

The booklet concludes with a stirring promise to fellow Trump enemies: “Good luck — we will win.”

The group isn’t planning to limit itself to the town-hall resistance to repealing Obamacare that it’s becoming known for. Indivisible has marshaled demonstrations against Trump’s Cabinet nominees and his immigration order, and it’s partnering with the organizers of the Jan. 21 Women’s March for a new action next week.

Its handful of senior leaders count about 100 contributors to their national organizing work but insist that all are working on a volunteer basis. They know conservatives are spreading unfounded rumors that their success is being driven by wealthy donors like George Soros, which they flatly deny.

“It doesn’t matter who we take money from — we’re always going to get blamed as a Soros group, even if we don’t take money from Soros,” said Padilla, now an analyst with the National Immigration Law Center. “That’s one of the attacks and that’s fine.”

The group began when Ezra Levin, a former aide to Texas Democratic Rep. Lloyd Doggett, commiserated over the election in late November with his wife Leah Greenberg, a longtime aide to ex-Virginia Democratic Rep. Tom Perriello. The couple was “going through the stages of grief, like a lot of progressives,” Levin recalled in an interview, “and wanted to do what we could to help.”

They got to work on what became the "Indivisible Guide," billed as a set of “best practices for making Congress listen.” The manual borrows openly from the early tactics of the Tea Party, which sprouted on the strength of local conservative resistance to former President Barack Obama’s hefty government stimulus bill and health care reform plan.

“Trump is not popular,” the guide states. “He does not have a mandate. He does not have large congressional majorities. If a small minority in the Tea Party could stop President Obama, then we the majority can stop a petty tyrant named Trump.”

The Indivisible manual is often blunt about what it says members of Congress really tick — and how protesters might use it to their advantage. One chart compares what "your MoC cares a lot about" (an example: "an interest group's endorsement") vs. what a lawmaker "doesn't care much about" (for one, "your thoughtful analysis of the proposed bill").

Levin, Greenberg, Padilla, and another former Doggett aide, Jeremy Haile, continued tweaking the guide even as their burgeoning effort mushroomed a full-fledged movement. About two dozen veteran Hill staffers and activists contributed or edited the guide in some way since that November first draft, according to Levin.

While the millions-strong turnout for anti-Trump Women’s Marches captured the nation last month, the Indivisible founders were conscious of the need for protest tactics that could truly force members of Congress to pay attention — or risk losing their seats.

“Marches are great to bring people together, but our experience as congressional staffers had taught us that energy needed to be channeled in a smart way to make a difference on Capitol Hill,”
Haile said.

Indivisible's founders never planned or expected the groundswell of interest that resulted from their guide, which prompted them to organize as a 501(c)4 group this month. "The last thing the progressive ecosystem really needed was yet another nonprofit," Levin said.

But Indivisible's guide has spread at the grassroots level at an unpredictable speed this year, with the help of other liberal groups amplifying its message. Less than two months after the group launched its website, 225,000 interested participants have registered to learn more, according to Levin.

It helped that Doggett was one of the first Democrats targeted by the tea party in the summer of 2009. During one of his routine Saturday morning office hours that August, hundreds of local conservative activists showed up wearing Revolutionary War costumes, Haile recalled. They chanted and jeered while carrying tombstones and coffins, and the chaotic scene caught the attention of the national media. Doggett required an escort to leave his own event that day.

Fast forward to last weekend. Police escorted Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.) out of his own town hall meeting after a local Indivisible chapter joined other progressive groups to protest it.

When the tea party began rattling lawmakers with local disruptions, Haile explained, “what mattered was this sense around the members that their constituents were unhappy. And what that is did is create discontent around Congress but also energized angry people who said, 'I’m angry; we’re angry; and if we join together we can make a difference and get members of Congress to change their positions.'”

That alignment of protesters galvanized by many different issues is a linchpin of Indivisible’s early success. The group doesn’t have a core policy mission: some chapters protest in defense of Obamacare; others embrace criminal justice reform or rally against Trump’s controversial travel ban.
[And others are motivated by concern about Trump's coziness with Russia; I've seen signs saying "Investigate Putingate"]

Chapters don’t even have to call themselves Indivisible. Levin estimated that no more than 40 percent of the 6,200 local affiliates registered on the group’s website use the name.

The organizers of Indivisible Grand Rapids, for example, hadn’t spoken to any original drafters in Washington before they helped marshal a crowd of several hundred to a Thursday night town hall meeting held by Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.). Chapter leaders explained to POLITICO that they’d heard about the movement through friends, visited the website to register themselves, then found others registered in their area who wanted to start a group.

The Michiganders downloaded the Indivisible guide and started a Facebook group in mid-January. The group now includes more than 300 people, a third of whom are registered for a Sunday training session on how to approach lawmakers.

“It’s important for us that we rise above; we don’t want to be depicted in any way as only being an angry mob, and we’re not,” said Claire Bode, 49, the co-founder of Indivisible Grand Rapids. “It’s a long-haul effort.”

Indivisible is also embracing collaboration with other major anti-Trump protest outlets. Leaders of the group were in communication with Women’s March organizers before their main event on Jan. 21, and that partnership will become official when the March unveils the third in its series of 10 direct actions that attendees have been asked to pursue in their communities.

In addition, MoveOn.org and the Working Families Party joined with Indivisible for its first nationwide call on Jan. 22. Nearly 60,000 people phoned in that day, according to Levin and MoveOn organizing director Victoria Kaplan. Indivisible estimates that its second national call, on the impact of Trump’s immigration order with assistance from the ACLU and Padilla’s group, drew 35,000 people.

Kaplan said MoveOn plans to team up again with Indivisible ahead of the Presidents' Day recess week. They want to help to major local chapters organize demonstrations while lawmakers are back home in their districts.

The White House has aggressively pushed back at any comparisons between the new Indivisible-boosted efforts and the tea party. Trump spokesman Sean Spicer told Fox News on Monday that the anti-Obama conservative opposition was “a very organic movement” but the rippling wave of liberal protest is “a very paid, Astroturf-type movement.”

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) sounded a similar note in an interview. “I think it’s going to be a demonstration a week until they run out of funding,” he said, predicting that “they will incrementally die off.”

It doesn't look like that will happen soon. Two House Republican chairmen faced fierce pushback at town halls in their districts on Thursday night, with budget committee chairwoman Rep. Diane Black fielding tough questions on the party’s lack of a united plan to replace Obamacare and oversight committee chairman Rep. Jason Chaffetz shouted down by furious boos.

Organizers at the Amash town hall said they're in it for the long haul. At the event in Grand Rapids, Mich., they passed out pamphlets encouraging attendees to "boo when he falls back on regressive values."

And they recruited the best interrogators in the crowd to join their cause.

"Do you mind if I grab your contact information?" group organizer Colin McWatters asked one Amash constituent who grilled the lawmaker about GOP plans to repeal Obamacare.

The constituent signed up.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/p ... ans-234863

A few thoughts:

First of all, I don't think it really matters who is contributing money to this, or even what the motivations of the people who got this started are. The fact is that all the money and organizing talent in the world wont make a difference if there isn't a receptive audience of rank and file folks out there willing to get involved...

This was true of the Tea Party Movement, and it is true of this as well...

I have spent some time checking out the coverage of these town hall meetings, to try and get a feel for what types of people seem to be showing up...

And my conclusion is that any GOP lawmakers who want to dismiss this as some sort of phony, manufactured stunt that doesn't really mean anything do so at considerable political peril...

They would be making the same mistake that many Democratic politicos made in 2009 (Chuck Todd had a montage of film clips on his show yesterday showing then Obama press secretary Robert Gibbs, David Axelrod and Nancy Pelosi, all dismissing the Tea Party protestors at town hall meetings in the summer of 2009 as just a bunch of demonstrations paid for by wealthy right-wingers that really didn't signify anything substantive..."Pelosi referred to them derisively as "astro turf" protests as opposed to "grassroots"...How'd that work out for you guys?)

What I'm seeing at these meetings aren't a bunch of youthful hotheads (who are great at showing up at protests but when it comes to turning out on election day, not so much) or hardcore left-wing code-pinkie types...

I'm seeing folks primarily in their 30s and up... (in other words, the kind of people most likely to vote) While they are very vocal, there is no violence nor any kind of threat of violence. These protests don't come across as a flat out effort to shout down the congress critters; usually though there is some slogan chanting ("Do your job!" seems to popular) there is also an actual exchange with questions being asked and people being quiet and allowing the representative or Senator to answer.

Also, at the meetings I've seen, these protestors tend to be overwhelmingly white...(Which really ought to get the attention of Republican representatives, particularly those in districts that Hillary Clinton carried or came close to carrying)

There's nobody waving Mexican flags showing up at these meetings...

And I certainly do not get the impression that these people are just hardcore liberal activists that would never ever vote for a Republican. The impression I get is that in the main, these folks are motivated by a wide range of concerns, (including concerns about Trump's relationship with Putin, which by rights ought to be a conservative motivation).

The one unifying element I see is that these folks all appear to be motivated to get involved by some fear and/or anger that has been stirred by the election, polices, actions, and words of Donald Trump...

Much like fear and/or anger about the election, policies, actions and words of Barack Obama provided the initial impetus for people to get involved in the Tea Party Movement...

A lot of folks erroneously attempted to elevate the "Occupy Movement" into some sort of equivalent with the Tea Party, but as I pointed out at the time, that was a false comparison. "Occupy" never developed the kind of organization or following among people who vote in high percentages to make it politically consequential.

This is very different. And if GOP lawmakers don't "get" that there is something real to be concerned about and responsive to here, there are going to be a lot fewer of them around this time of year in 2019...

Re: "Indivisible"....

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:29 pm
by BoSoxGal
It's very inspiring; watching the politics shows last night I felt more hopeful than I have since November 9. A LOT of the people are talking about ACA, and are VERY pissed off that they might lose their life-saving coverage. Sure sounds like plenty of them might even be Republicans - which considering the stats on who is benefiting from ACA, would make sense. Since the Republicans clearly haven't in all these years crafted any kind of replacement, maybe this bodes well for a continued national healthcare plan of some kind.

Trump has awakened a sleeping giant, I think. :ok

Re: "Indivisible"....

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:48 pm
by Burning Petard
"It’s just yelling and criticizing. There is no substance,."

Sort of like the GOP has been doing for the last six years about national healthcare.

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Re: "Indivisible"....

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:22 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I do have to say that for all the whining the republicans did about Obamacare over the last 7 years (myself included) the fact that they did not have a plan ready to at least be hashed out is just plain disappointing. They had 7 years. Do nothing politicians. :arg
You wonder why people have no faith in their elected leaders. And I have less faith every day.

Re: "Indivisible"....

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:13 pm
by Lord Jim
I think there's one way that the Democratic Party, or other established "progressive" organizations, (MoveOn, Black Lives Matter, etc) could really screw this up...

That would be if they try to co-opt or impose some sort of top-down structure on this movement...

If they do that, then the movement will shrink because people who don't care to be aligned with those organizations or their full agendas will no longer be involved....

My hats off to Levin and Greenberg; while I'm sure I probably disagree with them on 90% of policy, they have come up with exactly the right formula for growing a movement like this...

Provide information and tactical advice, but other than that, let these groups develop and operate locally on their own...

From the article in the OP:
They got to work on what became the "Indivisible Guide," billed as a set of “best practices for making Congress listen.” The manual borrows openly from the early tactics of the Tea Party, which sprouted on the strength of local conservative resistance to former President Barack Obama’s hefty government stimulus bill and health care reform plan.

“Trump is not popular,” the guide states. “He does not have a mandate. He does not have large congressional majorities. If a small minority in the Tea Party could stop President Obama, then we the majority can stop a petty tyrant named Trump.”

The Indivisible manual is often blunt about what it says members of Congress really tick — and how protesters might use it to their advantage. One chart compares what "your MoC cares a lot about" (an example: "an interest group's endorsement") vs. what a lawmaker "doesn't care much about" (for one, "your thoughtful analysis of the proposed bill").

While the millions-strong turnout for anti-Trump Women’s Marches captured the nation last month, the Indivisible founders were conscious of the need for protest tactics that could truly force members of Congress to pay attention — or risk losing their seats.

“Marches are great to bring people together, but our experience as congressional staffers had taught us that energy needed to be channeled in a smart way to make a difference on Capitol Hill,”

When the tea party began rattling lawmakers with local disruptions, Haile explained, “what mattered was this sense around the members that their constituents were unhappy. And what that is did is create discontent around Congress but also energized angry people who said, 'I’m angry; we’re angry; and if we join together we can make a difference and get members of Congress to change their positions.'”

That alignment of protesters galvanized by many different issues is a linchpin of Indivisible’s early success. The group doesn’t have a core policy mission
If the Democratic Party and other aligned organizations avoid making the mistake of trying to co-opt this, then I think the potential for growth is excellent, because they have a secret (well, not so secret) weapon in Donald Trump...

He can be absolutely counted upon to do and say more things that will make more people feel fearful and/or angry, creating an ever growing pool of potential new participants...

He is the Number 1 Recruiter-In-Chief; so long as this remains a broad, anti-Trumpist coalition, the potential for growing the movement and having real impact on the conduct of the Congress members is quite strong.

Re: "Indivisible"....

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:38 pm
by Sue U
Lord Jim wrote:He is the Number 1 Recruiter-In-Chief; so long as this remains a broad, anti-Trumpist coalition, the potential for growing the movement and having real impact on the conduct of the Congress members is quite strong.
The only way to have real impact on the members of Congress is to make them afraid of losing their jobs, and that is not really a practical concern for 98% of them until redistricting occurs after the 2020 census. The way to ensure that there is popular influence on Congress is to take up that cause now in state legislatures and demand an end to gerrymandered redistricting, making redistricting reform the major campaign issue for state elections over the next four years. While townhall and other constituent meetings can present image problems/opportunities for Congresspersons, it's a lot more effective in the long run -- and actually easier -- to put genuine electoral pressure on state reps than it is on your member of Congress.

Re: "Indivisible"....

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:09 pm
by rubato
Sue U wrote: "...

The only way to have real impact on the members of Congress is to make them afraid of losing their jobs, .... "

Once upon a time, a very long time ago, shame would have been an effective motivator, for some. You would not have to use threats of being fired.

Now-a-days there is not a single Republican in national office who exhibits the slightest discomfort at the most bare-faced lies.


yrs,
rubato

Re: "Indivisible"....

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:04 pm
by Lord Jim
Once upon a time, a very long time ago, shame would have been an effective motivator, for some. You would not have to use threats of being fired. there is not a single Republican in national office who exhibits the slightest discomfort at the most bare-faced lies.
LMAO!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Talk about the very definition of "a poor messenger"...

A complete lack of shame and a facility for being comfortable with the most bare-faced lies are two of your most defining characteristics...

Re: "Indivisible"....

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:15 am
by Econoline
  • Sue U wrote:The only way to have real impact on the members of Congress is to make them afraid of losing their jobs, and that is not really a practical concern for 98% of them until redistricting occurs after the 2020 census.

If Dems can hold onto all the Senate seats they now have and flip 3 Republican seats, they'll have control of the Senate; a net gain of 24 seats in the House would give them the House. A daunting task, but a possibility, if the GOP actually does screw the pooch as thoroughly as it appears they might.
  • The party not holding the White House has gained seats in 18 of the past 20 midterm elections. That trend isn’t a mere coincidence. It follows from the fact that a midterm is almost always a referendum on the incumbent president — and the most disappointed and dissatisfied voters tend to turn out during midterms to send their message of disapproval about the president and his party.

    Over the past 20 midterm elections, going back to 1938, the out-party has won at least 24 seats a substantial 11 times. That too gives Democrats a glimmer of hope about 2018.

    (source)

And of course if the pussy-grabber looks like he's also a pooch-screwer, that will push the referendum on the incumbent "president" BIGLY. ;)

Re: "Indivisible"....

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:56 pm
by Lord Jim
Buoyed By Anti-Trump Activism, Democrat Wins Delaware Special Election

MIDDLETOWN, Del. ― This is what democracy looks like.

It’s been a chant that has animated marches and protests around the country since the day after Donald Trump was inaugurated president, but it’s been more aspirational than descriptive. On Saturday, in a state Senate district in Delaware that stretches from Middletown to Newark, the voices in the streets turned into votes in the ballot box.

In the most expensive special election in Delaware history ― a contest to decide which party controls the state Senate ― Democrat Stephanie Hansen was on track to annihilate her Republican rival on the back of extraordinary turnout.

The last time her opponent, John Marino, ran in this district, in 2014, he lost by just 2 points. Hansen’s 58-42 percent victory over Marino on Saturday ensured that Democrats will maintain control of the state Senate. It also notched a big Donald Trump-era win for a new generation of Democratic activists shocked into action by the November election.

Hansen’s campaign received huge support. More than 1,000 volunteers worked during the course of the campaign, and about 500 ― many from nearby states ― showed up Saturday for Election Day. Hansen received more than 14,000 contributions of less than $100 from small donors spread all over the country.

“That’s more volunteers than I’ve had in nine elections,” exclaimed state Sen. Dave Sokola (D), of Hansen’s Election Day workers.

“It’s overwhelming to see all these people,” said Kelly Wright, a resident of Hansen’s district. “It’s making me emotional to see that people come take a bus two-plus hours away.”

The turnout of volunteers made a huge difference as Hansen crushed her Republican opponent with unusually high turnout for a special election.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/del ... 480e089560

Over the next several months, there will be at least five special elections for House seats...

Two of them in particular could be early tests of the strength of the anti-Trump movement; (a seat in Georgia, and one in Montana)

I am in the very strange position of actually rooting for the GOP to lose some of these elections... :?

If the GOP loses some seats in special elections because of energized opposition to Trump that they should otherwise have won, (and they see other elections that they should have won easily turn into cliff hangers for the same reason) it should have a salutary and invigorating effect on the behavior of Republican representatives in terms of their fortitude for standing up to Trump...(At least among those who represent districts where Clinton did well...We need more Daryl Issas...)

Re: "Indivisible"....

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:39 pm
by Guinevere
The movement is far more than just Indivisible, although many people have read the Indivisible guide, and are using some of that advice.

So yeah, those comments from January 21 about "doing more than just marching." Absolutely and you're seeing the results from that work, including much of the legal work pushing back on immigration. And these different groups are connecting and coordinating. Much much more to come.

"Indivisible"

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:41 pm
by RayThom
RESISTANCE!
Well, the results may not be "official" at the moment but it's going to be hard for Lord Dampnut to convince his minions that it was an "illegal voter bloc" that put Hansen over the top. I bet her entire constituency voted with Joe Biden in mind.

http://elections.delaware.gov/results/h ... tion.shtml

Re: "Indivisible"....

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:21 pm
by BoSoxGal
It looks like Montana is on track to approve a mail-in ballot for Zinke's seat, which means a decent chance they'll elect a Democrat.

So thrilled to see the sustained activism since the Women's March, especially all the tedious but necessary calls to Congresspersons and the folks going out town halls and visiting the local offices of their Congresspeople. Very, very heartening!!

"Indivisible"

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:27 pm
by RayThom
"Nevertheless, 'THEY' persisted." (Which rhymes with "resisted.")

Re: "Indivisible"....

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:53 am
by Burning Petard
Yes, but this election was RIGGED! There was horrible voter FRAUD! Some individuals were allowed to vote, and their votes were counted even though they were under 18 years of age!

A GOP state senator complained about this to election officials who justified it by pointing out that were just following state law--his law. The complaining state senator had sponsored a motor voter rule that permitted anyone to register to vote while getting their driver's permit, if they would be 18 before the next general election. State law also specifies that anyone with valid registration, is a qualified voter.

Is that Karma or what?

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