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With All The Crap Pouring Out From Trump And His Minions...

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:11 pm
by Lord Jim
that the media has had to cover, this scandal, while not exactly "buried" hasn't gotten anywhere near the coverage and focus it deserves:
More victims come forward in Marine nude photo scandal

WASHINGTON — At least 20 victims have now come forward to complain that explicit photos of them are being shared online by active duty and retired members of the Marine Corps and others, a leading Navy investigator said Friday.

Curtis Evans, the division chief for criminal investigations for the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, told reporters that he expects more victims will come forward as the probe continues.

Former and current female Marines say their photographs and those of women in other services have been shared without their consent on social media, including on a private, men-only Facebook page called Marines United and a Google Drive linked to that page. That Facebook page has been taken down, but officials say the photos may have simply migrated to another private site.


Evans said the investigation has expanded into many more sites online. Officials said that earlier this week at least 17 new sites were being reviewed and that as many as 30,000 images were catalogued on the sites, although many were duplicates. A majority of the photos, officials said, were selfies and did not appear to have been taken surreptitiously, although it's not clear under what conditions they were shared.

The officials weren't authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

So far, the victims who have come forward are not men, and the investigation has not expanded to gay pornography sites. But, Evans said NCIS will look into every complaint. He said NCIS is working with the other military investigative services and with federal and local law enforcement, including the FBI.

Facebook and Google have been cooperating with the investigation, he added.

There have been about 1,200 screen names identified on the Facebook site, and of those, 725 were active duty Marines, 150 were in the Marine Reserves, 15 were in the active duty Navy and the rest were unidentifiable. Those people were only on the main Facebook page, which involved other issues. It is not known who may have accessed or commented on the Google Drive linked to the Facebook page where the explicit photos were stored.

Marine Corps Commandant Gen. Robert Neller acknowledged the nude photo scandal may hurt female recruiting. The force currently has the lowest percentage of all the services at about 8 percent.

Neller has vowed to hold Marines accountable for the Facebook scandal and acknowledged that changes have to be made in the Marine Corps culture, where some male Marines don't accept women in the ranks.
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/articl ... d-citizens

Re: With All The Crap Pouring Out From Trump And His Minions

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:19 pm
by BoSoxGal
Maybe the American public is just no longer outraged by further evidence of the toxic environment the military offers to women?

I came so close to joining up after my JROTC experience in high school - I'm so incredibly glad I didn't.

With All The Crap Pouring Out From Trump And His Minions...

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:57 pm
by RayThom
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Woman? Not so much.

Re: With All The Crap Pouring Out From Trump And His Minions

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:11 pm
by BoSoxGal
I would question whether the Marine Corps or any other branch of the military builds men - OR women. Builds largely unquestioning cannon fodder - absolutely. Builds physical fitness, discipline, rigid adherence to rules, proficiency in the use of various machines and weaponry? Certainly.

Character is already there - or not - before anyone is old enough to join the military. The military doesn't make men into rapists or serial sexual harassers, it just provides them with a forgiving environment in which to pursue those huge character deficiencies.

Yes, there are many fine people in the military and honorably discharged from it. They were most likely fine people before they joined.

Re: With All The Crap Pouring Out From Trump And His Minions

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:01 pm
by Bicycle Bill
Although it has been proven that both groups are equally capable of solving problems, getting the job done, and doing the right thing, which do you think people in trouble would rather hear .... "Send in the Marines!" or "Send in the lawyers"?

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Re: With All The Crap Pouring Out From Trump And His Minions

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:14 pm
by BoSoxGal
Well right now it's the lawyers who are protecting our Constitution from encroachment by the unclothed orange emperor, isn't it?

Re: With All The Crap Pouring Out From Trump And His Minions

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:33 pm
by rubato
We do need to be certain that everyone inducted into the armed forces of the Yew Knighted States are moral enough to carry guns and kill people.

I would think that would be obvious.

yrs,
rubato

Re: With All The Crap Pouring Out From Trump And His Minions

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:39 pm
by ex-khobar Andy
Channeling Arlo Guthrie there, Rube?

Re: With All The Crap Pouring Out From Trump And His Minions

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:01 pm
by Big RR
I would question whether the Marine Corps or any other branch of the military builds men - OR women. Builds largely unquestioning cannon fodder - absolutely. Builds physical fitness, discipline, rigid adherence to rules, proficiency in the use of various machines and weaponry? Certainly.
BSG--to be fair to the military, it also builds problem solving and judgment skills; they generally do not want automatons, but men and women who understand their objective and are able to chart a path toward it. The best soldier is not one who runs blindly into a hail of gunfire when told to go, but who takes proper cover and advances slowly and deliberately to win the day. One who does not rigidly adhere to the "rules", but has the judgment to decide which ones can be bent and which cannot. It costs far too much to train the modern soldier (or marine, etc.) to just waste them as cannon fodder.

Re: With All The Crap Pouring Out From Trump And His Minions

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:37 pm
by Guinevere
BigRR, please check your PMs!

Re: With All The Crap Pouring Out From Trump And His Minions

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:40 am
by Beer Sponge
BoSoxGal wrote:Well right now it's the lawyers who are protecting our Constitution from encroachment by the unclothed orange emperor, isn't it?
I think so! Lawyers would seem to be the first line of defense against the tyrannical pumpkin!

Re: With All The Crap Pouring Out From Trump And His Minions

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:56 am
by Bicycle Bill
BoSoxGal wrote:Well right now it's the lawyers who are protecting our Constitution from encroachment by the unclothed orange emperor, isn't it?
And a fine job they are doing indeed.

However, when "the shit has hit the fan", even Warren Zevon recognized the need for more than just a cadre of legal eagles:

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