Gov. Moonbeam Throws Down The Gauntlet !

[dales]

Jerry Brown: ‘You don’t want to mess with California’



By Katy Murphy | kmurphy@bayareanewsgroup.com |

PUBLISHED: March 27, 2017 at 9:22 am | UPDATED: March 27, 2017 at 10:22 am



President Donald Trump’s threat last month to cut off federal funding from California is not only unconstitutional, but would spell economic disaster for the whole country, Gov. Jerry Brown said in an interview that aired Sunday.

Brown’s interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” aired after the governor’s first trip since the election to Washington, where he met with Republican Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy of California and other leaders.

I'm sure moonbeam had his begging bowl in hand

“The federal government just can’t arbitrarily for political reasons punish the State of California, that’s number one,” Brown said. “Number two, California is America. We’re 12 percent. …

“We’re the innovation capital, high tech, agriculture, 40- to 50-billion-dollar industry. You don’t want to mess with California, because you’re going to mess with the economy, and that could blow up in your face in a gigantic recession and roll the Republicans right out of this town.”

In the same interview, Brown said the state would fight hard to prevent the wall that Trump has proposed building between the U.S. and Mexico — but, he said, it would do so strategically, not through “stupid lawsuits.”

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Jerry's old but he's tough. Go Jerry!


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[Econoline]

Dales, I get it that you dislike Jerry Brown so much because in his first term in office he succeeded your hero, Saint Ronnie, and you couldn't help feeling disappointed and let down then...

But he seems to be doing an excellent job now, so I don't see why you have to constantly mischaracterize and demean everything he does now, every time he's in the news. ("begging bowl in hand"??? really???) Reagan is dead, Schwarzenegger is back in show biz — so why not give it a rest, let bygones be bygones, and accept that your current governor is one of the best in the U.S.?

[dales]

Econoline - - - you couldn't be more wrong.

Since you don't live in CALIFORNIA, I'll cut you some slack.

There are two things I have against Gov. Brown.

1. His desire to send NorCal water south.

2. His stupid idea for the "train to nowhere" aka: " California High Speed Rail" a boondoggle which will cost MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS when Sacto is awash in red ink.

He is determined to go against Trump on many issues (this is a GOOD thing). Yet comes begging for federal money.

I find this disingenuous at best and rank stupidity at worst.

[BoSoxGal]

Begging for federal money?! California pays in way more than it gets back - requesting federal funding seems perfectly reasonable.

[dales]

Good point, BSG.

The manner that he goes about it is shameless.

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Jerry Brown is asking, with both justice and dignity on his side, for California to receive something closer to a fair share of federal dollars. We have been screwed by the low-functioning ignorant red states for too long.

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[Guinevere]

There is nothing wrong with what JB is doing, and I rather approve. As I said earlier this month:

Perhaps it is time that the blue states keep some of their tax revenue, to benefit the citizens who paid it. Rather than turning it over to the federal government, where so much of it is funneled to the red states.

https://newrepublic.com/article/140948/ ... ed-america

What I mean is that it’s time for blue states and cities to effectively abandon the American national enterprise, as it is currently constituted. Call it the New Federalism. Or Virtual Secession. Or Conscious Uncoupling—though that’s already been used. Or maybe Bluexit.

Truth is, you red states just haven’t been pulling your weight. Not for, well, forever. Red states are nearly twice as dependent on the federal government as blue states. Of the twelve states that received the least federal aid in return for each tax dollar they contribute to the U.S. Treasury, ten of them voted for Hillary Clinton—and the other two were Michigan and Wisconsin, your newest recruits. By the same count, 20 of the 26 states most dependent on federal aid went to Trump.

Take Mississippi (please!), famous for being 49th or 50th in just about everything that matters. When it comes to sucking at the federal teat, the Magnolia State is the undisputed champ. More than 40 percent of Mississippi’s state revenue comes from federal funding; one-third of its GDP comes from federal spending; for every dollar it pays out in federal taxes, it takes in $4.70 in federal aid; one in five residents are on food stamps—all national highs. You people—your phrase, not mine—liked to bash Obama for turning America into what you derisively referred to as “Food Stamp Nation.” In reality, it’s more like Food Stamp Red America—something your Trump-loving congressmen will discover if and when they fulfill their vow to gut the program.

Massachusetts should think similarly. Tell the Trumpanzee and his mouthpiece Sessions to keep their grant dollars, and we will keep our federal tax revenue right here, working for our citizens, in our state. And keep our Sanctuary Cities, too.

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We have been propping up the conservative kakotocricy for generations. It's time to make them pay their own way.

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[Bicycle Bill]

We have been propping up the conservative kakotocricy kakistocracy for generations. It's time to make them pay their own way.

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Rube - if you're going to use big words, at least try to use the correct ones.

kakistocracy (English pronunciation: kak-uh-stok-ruh-see):  a state or country run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens. The word was coined by English author Thomas Love Peacock in 1829.

-"BB"-

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It was spelled well enough for you to understand. (after you looked it up) You learned something, my goal was achieved.

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[Lord Jim]

Actually, you just learned how to spell a word that you didn't know how to spell, so it's Bill's goal that has been achieved...

(Assuming of course that the unprecedented happens, and you actually retain what you have been taught...)

[oldr_n_wsr]

Brown is looking for another $0.12 per gallon tax. On top of the already $0.30 tax the state puts on gasoline. Where has that money gone?
And I heard he wants electric vehicle purchasers to pay another fee for buying them.

When I go to the lake house, I used to stop in port jervis andjust over hte new jersey line there was gas for almost $0.40 cheaper than ny. There were nogas staions on the ny side in port jervis. On the last trio a couple of weekends ago, the gas was more in NJ than back on LI, NY. Pa was similar in price to NJ now. Used to be about $0.20 cheaper than ny.

It's like the tolls on the bridges here in NY. MTA takes more and more and less and less % goes to bridge maintenance.
MTA=Money Taking Authority

[Long Run]

The argument that State A pays more/less in taxes than it receives has never been very persuasive, especially if it is broken down by who actually pays the taxes within a given state. Why stop at the state level? Why not continue counting down to the county, neighborhood, and household level?