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An idea whose time has come?

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1. We would save $12 Billion now being paid to tax preparers.
2. We would save a lot of time assembling receipts, W2s, and 1099s, information the government already has so ... why?



http://theweek.com/articles/692634/how- ... y-turbotax
" ... Right now, Americans prepare their tax returns themselves. But when most Americans fill out their wages and dividends and mortgage payments and all the rest on their tax forms, they're not telling the government anything it doesn't already know. So once Americans have filed their returns, the government checks their work against its own calculations, and decides whether it agrees. If the government doesn't agree, taxpayers then choose whether to fight it.

In other words, filling out your own tax return is often an entirely superfluous step. That's why plenty of other countries — Japan, Israel, the Netherlands, Britain, Peru, Sweden, Spain, etc. — don't include it in the process. The government just cuts to the chase: It prepares everyone's tax returns itself, sends them out, and then taxpayers check the returns for errors.

It's called a "return-free filing" system.

T.R. Reid recently described how this system works for his friend Michael, "a Dutch executive with a six-figure income, a range of investments, and all the economic complications that come with an upper-bracket lifestyle."

An American in the same situation would have to fill out a dozen forms, six pages long. Michael, by contrast, sets aside 15 minutes per year to file his federal and local income tax, and that's usually enough. But sometimes, he told me, he decides to check the figures the government has already filled in on his return. At this point, Michael was getting downright indignant. "I mean, some years, it takes me half an hour just to file my taxes!" [T.R. Reid, The New York Times]

Imagine that! Getting upset because the entirely free process took half an hour instead of 15 minutes. Here in America, by contrast, the average taxpayer will spend 13 hours and $200 to get their tax return finished and filed.

Past studies estimate that at least 40 percent of Americans would be eligible to get return-free filing, should we move to such a system. So why on Earth don't we? ...
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Because it's a huge industry for chains and solo accountants alike, not to mention the profits from refund advances?

It'll never happen here because too many powerful interests have too much to lose.
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Besides those reasons, there are a significant number of Americans who "just don't trust the government to do anything right".
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Econoline wrote:Besides those reasons, there are a significant number of Americans who "just don't trust the government to do anything right".

You don't have to trust the government in this case. You are free to check thier work.

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... and gone.

Screw 'em all... I stopped filing a few years ago.

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If you file late, and have taxes due, you must pay a fine and interest. BUT !~ ! If you file late, and you are due a refund, the government pays YOU interest, and it is more than I get in interest from my local mid-size bank or my credit union. On the other hand, that overpayment amounts to a loan from you to the government and that loan is interest free until the date for filing has passed.

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I usually file early, 2nd or third week of feb., because I use the return to pay property taxes. This year was more complicated but I paid $57,000 towards next year's federal income tax so not a total loss.


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Only little people pay taxes.

I don't. :ok

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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rubato wrote: This year was more complicated but I paid my wife paid $57,000 towards next year's federal income tax so not a total loss.


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