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Compare And Contrast

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:32 pm
by dales
And I am certainly no fan of Jimmy Carter, but compared to the current occupant of the WH (who crashes weddings and graduations) Jimmy Carter runs rings around Drumph.


Former President Carter shakes hands with everyone on flight

Updated 8:34 am, Monday, June 12, 2017



ATLANTA (AP) — Former President Jimmy Carter took time to shake the hand of every passenger aboard a recent commercial flight from Atlanta to Washington.

James Parker Sheffield was aboard the flight last week and tweeted video of the smiling 92-year-old walking down the aisle and shaking hands with everyone aboard. Sheffield tells Atlanta's WSB-TV (http://2wsb.tv/2t8Tr18 ) that Carter's enthusiasm was "authentic and humble."

Carter spokeswoman Deanna Congileo tells the AP that Carter has shaken hands with travelers on planes for decades since leaving office and "enjoys it."

Carter was flying to Washington ahead of Friday's funeral for his former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski.

Sheffield's video of Carter exchanging pleasantries with passengers has been widely-shared online. As of Monday morning, it had been retweeted more than 12,000 times and liked more than 34,000.
IRL - my late father had a chance to meet him and expressed what a decent person he was (even though my father did not vote for him).

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:50 pm
by BoSoxGal
Any minute LJ will weigh in to say what a bitter old man President Carter is . . .

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:11 pm
by Long Run
Had not heard that Brzezinski had died; he was one of the few bright spots during that time.

Yes, Carter good person (though can be annoying), bad president. Just the opposite of Bill Clinton.

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:13 pm
by Bicycle Bill
dales wrote:And I am certainly no fan of Jimmy Carter, but compared to the current occupant of the WH (who crashes weddings and graduations) Jimmy Carter runs rings around Drumph.

IRL - my late father had a chance to meet him and expressed what a decent person he was (even though my father did not vote for him).
Can you visualize, either now or at any time in the future, someone saying that about Dumb'old Drumpff?  If anyone says anything at all about him, I expect it will be more like this:

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-"BB"-

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:16 pm
by Lord Jim
BoSoxGal wrote:Any minute LJ will weigh in to say what a bitter old man President Carter is . . .
No need; you already did it for me... :P

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:04 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I wonder if a "normal" passenger went down the aisle shaking everyones hands would they have been deemed a "disturbance" and removed from the flight?
Only on United?

And How is it an ex-president is allowed by the secret service to even fly commercial?

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:19 pm
by Big RR
And How is it an ex-president is allowed by the secret service to even fly commercial?
Since the government does not pay for the ex-president's travel or provide a plane for his use, I doubt they could have much to say about it.

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:29 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I wonder how many seats they take up?
And if anyone was asked to de-plane to make room?
:nana :mrgreen:

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:30 pm
by Scooter
Who peed in your cornflakes this morning?

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:38 pm
by Lord Jim
There was one time a President flew commercial while he was in office...

He also walked down the plane aisle shaking hands:
Nixon Feels Flight to Coast on Commercial Plane ‘Scored Points’ With the Public

SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES DEC. 28, 1973

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LAGUNA BEACH, Calif., Dec 27—President Nixon began a post‐Christmas vacation at his San Clemente estate today convinced, as one aide said, that his trip across the country by commercial jet had “scored points with the public.”

But the Secret Service and the Federal Aviation Administration expressed considerably less enthusiasm about the trip, apparently the first ever made by a President on a scheduled airliner.

Mr. Nixon took a commercial plane instead of his own jet to save fuel in the energy crisis.

The Secret Service, which is responsible for Presidential security, said in Washington that it “would prefer the President to use military aircraft for security reasons.” Ronald L. Ziegler, the White House press secretary, replied that “they O.K.'d his traveling” on a United Air Lines jet.

Alexander P. Butterfield, administrator of the aviation agency, said he was “dismayed” that the agency had been given little advance notice of the trip. He himself found out about it only when the United DC‐10 was taxiing onto the runway at Dulles Airport outside Washington.

“This serious oversight,” said the outspoken Mr. Butterfield, who was the first man to disclose the existence of the Watergate tapes, “left precious little time for our air traffic people to implement their special precautionary procedures which must always be followed when the President takes to the air lanes.”

To that, Mr. Ziegler replied: “The success of the trip was based on the fact that no extraordinary measures were taken except for the Secret Service security of the aircraft. Whenever the President does something unique it may draw criticism, but the key to the President's ability to fly on a regularly scheduled flight was not to make it known in advance.”

Considerable grumbling was also heard from some members of the staff and from the White House press corps, who were still coming into Laguna Beach, 10 miles north of San Clemente, late this afternoon, almost a day behind Mr. Nixon.
http://www.nytimes.com/1973/12/28/archi ... -with.html

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:05 pm
by rubato
And then ruined it by crowing about how successfully manipulative he was:

Nixon Feels Flight to Coast on Commercial Plane ‘Scored Points’ With the Public


What an evil POS.

yrs,
rubato

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:02 am
by Lord Jim
rubato wrote:And then ruined it by crowing about how successfully manipulative he was:

Nixon Feels Flight to Coast on Commercial Plane ‘Scored Points’ With the Public


What an evil POS.

yrs,
rubato

Gee rube, what a clever fellow you are...

You managed to sort out that Mr. Nixon's intent with this stunt was to draw attention away from The Watergate Cover Up that was enveloping his Presidency...

You really are quite a smart boy... ;)

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:46 am
by rubato
Crowing about manipulating people is despicable behavior no matter what else was going on. But then you really aren't that clever, morally speaking.



yrs,
rubato

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:13 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
Scooter wrote:Who peed in your cornflakes this morning?
I don't eat breakfast.
Just making fun in light of recent de-planing incidents. :mrgreen:

Re: Compare And Contrast

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:02 pm
by Big RR
Lord Jim wrote:
rubato wrote:And then ruined it by crowing about how successfully manipulative he was:

Nixon Feels Flight to Coast on Commercial Plane ‘Scored Points’ With the Public


What an evil POS.

yrs,
rubato


Gee rube, what a clever fellow you are...

You managed to sort out that Mr. Nixon's intent with this stunt was to draw attention away from The Watergate Cover Up that was enveloping his Presidency...

You really are quite a smart boy... ;)
Jim--while you're undoubtedly right about the Watergate scandal, he was taking a lot of heat about flying to San Clemente nearly every weekend 9except when he flew to Key Biscayne) while the rest of us plebeians stood in gas lines to buy a gallon or two of gas. I think he was trying to show that he was "one of us"; it didn't work.

Roy