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I'm convinced this isn't due to confusion, it's deliberate.

Remember when they had "breaking news" about the Notorious RBG had died?

FUX News loves to pander to their base.
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OK, OK .... so maybe someone DID make this one up.
But I was still reluctant to post it since it might just put ideas into Lord Cheeto's head.
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From DJT’s cabinet meeting this morning - just unreal.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/10/21/politi ... cnn.com%2F
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Of course Trump counters the morning testimony (Bill Taylor, the acting US ambassador to Ukraine who said it was “crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.”) with a tweet.

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Well the man's an uneducated racist asshole so I suppose it's to be expected. But I hadn't expected this of Lindsey Graham, who told reporters that the impeachment process is “a lynching in every sense."

Could someone please explain to this president that he will have his legal rights - due process, cross examination, confronting his accusers etc - once the enquiry is done and if, as a result of that enquiry, an impeachment (= prosecution) occurs? (Maybe he should find a lawyer who actually understands the law. That lawyer could also argue that, as he is innocent, it might be best to cooperate with the enquiry so that it can go as quickly as possible to his vindication.) He at the moment has the exact same legal rights as does anyone during a grand jury proceeding. And of course he knows a thing or two about lynching which could be defined as an extrajudicial killing: he, ever after they were exonerated, did not waver from his belief that the Central Park Five should have been executed.

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Jim Wright just said it better than I ever could.
  • In the early morning hours of August 28, 1955, 14-year-old African-American Emmett Till was dragged from his great uncle's house near Money, Mississippi, by two white men.

    Till, again a 14-year-old boy, was bound and gagged thrown into the back of a pickup truck and driven to a nearby barn. On the way he was pistol-whipped into unconsciousness. He was brutalized, tortured, and beaten so severely that when his body was found, he could only be identified by a ring he had on his finger. He was then shot, a 70lb fan blade was tied around his neck, and his body was thrown off a bridge into the Tallahatchie River.

    His crime?

    He was alleged to have whistled at a white woman -- a charge she later admitted she made up.

    Till's murderers? The woman's husband and a friend? Despite numerous witnesses and overwhelming evidence, they were acquitted of the crime. And then, because in 1955 there were no FEDERAL hate crime laws and because they couldn't be tried again on the same charge due to double jeopardy rules, they publicly admitted to the murder. Gleefully so. In fact, they made money from the admission, being paid what was then the astronomical sum of $4000 for their confession by a magazine publisher.

    As noted above, Till was brutalized so badly his body and particularly his face were unrecognizable. His mother chose to have an open casket funeral and forced America to look upon the face of racial violence in America. That courageous act -- something that must have been horrifying for her -- galvanized the Civil Rights movement and brought home the horrors of Jim Crow to many white Americans. Not enough. Not yet. But it was at least a start.

    (Note, I did NOT post a picture of Emmett Till's funeral, nor have I mentioned the names of his killers. That's for for a reason. Be respectful of that in the comments)

    Neither of the men responsible, who publicly ADMITTED they were responsible, were ever held to account -- though they were eventually ostracised by the local community. Both the murderers eventually died of cancer after miserable lives of crime and ruin. But the man most directly responsible for Till's murder claimed in an interview years later that Till ruined HIS life and he showed no remorse whatsoever.

    I remind you that Emmett Till was 14-years-old.

    There are a number of memorial markers to Till in the Mississippi Delta where he was murdered. To this very day, White Supremacists -- including a fraternity from the University of Mississippi -- routinely seek out those markers and vandalize them, usually in a spray of bullets, in a show of defiant solidarity with the brutal racists who murdered an innocent child in cold blood.

    THAT is what lynching is.

    And Emmett Till was hardly the only one. Between 1877 and 1950 more than 4000 African-Americans were lynched in this country. And thousands more Asian and Latinos.

    And so here we are today, in the shadow of those bodies and Donald Trump declares himself a victim and covers himself in the blood of 500 years of horror and misery and hate.

    All of America should be ashamed of this President -- a wealthy white man at the very pinnacle of power who himself once attempted to have five black teenagers executed for the alleged crime of assaulting a white woman.

    Oh, yeah, that's right.

    You didn't forget THAT, did you?

    After THIRTEEN years in prison, those black teenagers, known as the Central Park 5, were conclusively exonerated by DNA evidence. Not only that, but the true rapist confessed to the crime. Donald Trump STILL claims that those black men are guilty and should have been executed. He has never shown a single shred of remorse for his false accusations.

    THAT is what lynching is. THAT, right there. The only difference is that Trump's victims lived.

    We all should be outraged at Trump's pathetic and disgusting attempt to equate the legal and Constitutional consequences of his own greed, his racism, his terrible leadership, and his crass behavior to the genocidal horror of lynching.

    Any decent human being who has even the slightest awareness of the absolute horror of Jim Crow and America's history of racial violence, who has ever stood in front of Emmett Till's memorial in the Mississippi Delta, should be ashamed of this president.

    Trump's endless attempts to hijack the pain and suffering and history of others to his own self-aggrandizement is a blight -- yet another blight -- on our very history as a people and as a nation.

    And history will one day hold US to account.
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Jim Wrong gets one right... :ok
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Trump at the oil and gas Shale Conference in Pennsylvania today:

"We're building a wall in Colorado. We're building a beautiful wall. A big one that really works."

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A New Wall...to keep out New Mexicans...? :loon
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25th amendment ASAP - if the cabinet weren’t all sniveling sycophants and traitors.
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Econoline wrote:A New Wall...to keep out New Mexicans...?[/i]
Exactly. Someone told Trump that we have a state called New Mexico and he got worried that it's just the first step to Mexicans taking over neighboring states and eventually maybe even Hawaii.

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So because it is impossible for him to admit being wrong, even in small things, he will never concede that this was a slip of the tongue, or whatever, which would have given this five minutes of oxygen and gotten it out of the news cycle. Instead, he will double down and insist that a wall is being built in Colorado. Stephen Miller will be dispatched to all the Sunday news shows to champion a wall in Colorado as the lynch pin of U.S. border security. DHS will produce a report claiming that a wall in Colorado will deter 100,000 MS-13 members from entering the U.S. And emergency powers will be used to divert $20 billion in defence funding toward its construction.
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And now this, from The Party Formerly Known As The Strong On National Security Party..:
Republicans storm ultra-secure “SCIF,” some with cell phones blazing

Lawmakers flout strict rules designed to prevent eavesdropping by adversaries.

On Wednesday, Republican lawmakers committed a major breach of security guidelines when they carried cell phones as they tried to force their way into a secure room where a closed-door impeachment hearing with a Defense Department official was taking place.

At least one House member, Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida, got inside the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) in the basement of the House of Representatives. Despite strict rules barring all electronics inside such closed-off areas, Gaetz openly tweeted: "BREAKING: I led over 30 of my colleagues into the SCIF where Adam Schiff is holding secret impeachment depositions.[Lying sack of shit...There's nothing "secret" about these hearings, GOP members of the Intel Committee have every bit as much access as Democratic members, and Republicans used the the SCIF to hold hearings where classified info could be aired all the time. But of course facts have no value to this bunch.] Still inside—more details to come."

After the tweet came under criticism, Gaetz later tweeted “sent by staff.” It remained unclear how the representative was able to communicate with his members of his staff.

Rep. Mark Walker of North Carolina also issued a tweet that said he was "in the SCIF." A picture published by The New York Times showed a man identified as a House Republican holding up his phone as if taking pictures or video as he entered the secure room. A sign on the door of the room said, "Cameras and other recording devices prohibited without proper authorization." The room has lockers outside the doors where people are required to store electronics before entering.

Lawyers said bringing phones into the secure area was a potential felony. [Every one of these ignorant, national security endangering bastards ought to be prosecuted, but of course now that we have a corrupted Justice Department with an AG who himself belongs in the dock, that wont happen.]Security officials, meanwhile, stressed how damaging the move could be to national security.

The SCIF is designed to prevent electronic eavesdropping so members of Congress can receive sensitive information that is often classified. Often, the materials in the room reveal sensitive operations or show how intelligence officers collect information on adversaries. SCIFs are carefully controlled to prevent electronic signals or electronic devices from leaving the rooms. Chief among these restrictions is no unauthorized electronic devices.

Compromising national security

Cell phones in particular are known to be a risk since it's easily within the means of a nation to infect both iOS and Android devices with full-featured spyware. From then on, the hackers can make the devices record audio and video, take pictures and download and upload files. Lawmakers are particularly prone to such attacks given the large amount of sensitive data they often have access to.

"Storming the SCIF without respecting the security protocols that require people to leave their electronic devices *outside* the space is actually compromising our national security," Mieke Eoyang, who regularly used the room while she was a former staffer for several security-related congressional committees, wrote on Twitter. "Bringing electronic devices into a SCIF, and this SCIF in particular, is *very* problematic, especially when done by members of Congress."

Hours after the protest, Rep. Bennie Thompson, a Democrat representing Mississippi and the chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security, sent a letter to the Sergeant at Arms calling the event "an urgent security matter."

"Such action is a blatant breach of security, violates the Oath all Members of Congress sign to gain access to classified information, and contravenes security controls established by the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency for the protection of classified information," Thompson wrote. "The unprecedented breach of security raises serious concerns for Committee Chairmen, including me, responsible for maintaining SCIFs."

Wednesday's event occurred as members of the House Intelligence Committee were preparing to hear from Laura K. Cooper, the deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine, and Eurasia. Chanting "let us in, let us in," the protesting lawmakers prevented the hearing from proceeding. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff turned the protesters away and called on the sergeant-at-arms to break up the crowd.[He should have ordered them arrested.].
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... s-blazing/

The Gipper would be so proud... :cry:

To be fair, it's not all the Republicans on The Hill who engaged in this reckless and criminal disregard for national security in order to prove their Trump boot licker bona fides...(It was led by some of the vilest and dumbest; like Steve King and Louie Gohmert)

But 30 is more than just a couple of idiots, and I'm not seeing a big chorus of courageous condemnation coming from the others...

Of course what rises from this stupidity is the unmistakable stench of desperation...

They can't provide any effective counter to the relentless march of facts and proof of Impeachable offenses being piled up against the would-be tyrant they serve (rather than serving their constituents, their country, and their oath of office) by witness after witness, so they flail about with a pathetic and reckless stunt to try and derail the proceedings and/or change the media focus, at least temporarily...

The good news is that all of this vile behavior will ultimately do nothing to derail the pursuit of justice against The Criminal-In-Chief...

Just bring further disgrace upon these disgraceful sycophants...
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Joe Guy wrote:Someone told Trump that we have a state called New Mexico and he got worried that it's just the first step to Mexicans taking over neighboring states and eventually maybe even Hawaii.
I thought Kenyans already took over Hawaii?
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Trump couldn't be prosecuted if he shot someone on Fifth Avenue, lawyer claims

One of Donald Trump’s personal lawyers has argued to judges that the president cannot be investigated by local authorities while he is in office, even if he murdered someone on Fifth Avenue in New York.

William Consovoy, a personal attorney for Trump, tried to convince judges during a trial on Wednesday that Trump can reject a subpoena for his tax returns on grounds of presidential immunity.

The trial took place in a federal appeals court in New York City, where judges heard arguments from Trump’s lawyers and New York prosecutors. A Manhattan district attorney subpoenaed eight years of Trump’s tax returns in September.

Despite promises made during his 2016 presidential campaign, Trump has not released his tax information, making him the first president to fail to do so in nearly 40 years.

Consovoy told judges that New York’s local prosecutors had partisan intentions to embarrass the president when issuing the subpoena. He argued there was precedent to the idea that, while a president is not immune from prosecution in federal court, “local pressures” on a president may be different.

Judge Denny Chin pushed him on that claim, referencing a statement Trump made in the midst of the 2016 election about the staunch loyalty of his supporters. “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,” Trump said.

Chin asked Consovoy: “What’s your view on the Fifth Avenue example? Local authorities couldn’t investigate? They couldn’t do anything about it?”

“I think once a president is removed from office, any local authority – this is not a permanent immunity,” Consovoy said in response.

“Well, I’m talking about while in office. That’s the hypo[thetical]. Nothing could be done? That is your position?” Chin pressed further.

“That is correct,” Consovoy said.


The case over Trump’s tax returns is likely to make its way up to the supreme court. Trump’s lawyers and New York prosecutors struck a agreement that says if Trump loses Wednesday’s battle in the court of appeals, his lawyers will take no more than 10 days to petition to the supreme court.
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I saw that earlier and just couldn’t even stomach to cut and paste it here.

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Another possible interpretation...
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So Kelly tells us that he told Trump not to hire a yes man to replace him as CoS, or he'd end up deep in shit and as a result he would be impeached. Well Kelly was replaced by Mulvaney who you have to admit is not so much of a yes man as a don't have a fucking clue man. So maybe Trump did listen to Kelly.

Anyway, Trump of course tells us that this conversation never took place. I'm willing to bet that he may in fact in a Clintonesque fashion (it depends what the meaning of shit is) be telling the truth. And the ever dependable WH Press Secretary has informed us that she "worked with John Kelly, and he was totally unequipped to handle the genius of our great President." She is obviously keeping up the venerable traditions of Scary Spicer and Even Scarier Sanders. Is it possible to think that she believes what she says? I've known a fair few stupid people in my time but I'm honestly not sure that I've ever met anyone who would actually say something so dense. How much do we pay this idiot? I seem to recall that SHS was making $170,000 so I presume that Grisham is on an equivalent nice little earner.

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