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It looks like she got it right, he certainly looks worse off than the homeless people in DC or the "detainees" at Gitmo.

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Hey, she looks good in orange. Maybe she should wear it more often.

Edited to add: I'm colo(u)r blind. I should not attempt jests of this sort.

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I thought you were visually challenged after "she looks good".

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According to various physicians under various circumstances, I have normal color vision.

Sure looks to me as if she is wearing orange, but not the exact same shade as the fake prisoner. I guess the question is what is the criteria of 'looking good' I don't imagine any prisoners wearing the dress she has, but coveralls in that particular color, sure. specially in an institution for treatment of mental problems.

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Burning Petard wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:50 pm
According to various physicians under various circumstances, I have normal color vision.

Sure looks to me as if she is wearing orange, but not the exact same shade as the fake prisoner. I guess the question is what is the criteria of 'looking good' I don't imagine any prisoners wearing the dress she has, but coveralls in that particular color, sure. specially in an institution for treatment of mental problems.

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:lol:

My point was that I don't think she ever looks good regardless of what she is wearing. Well, maybe in a straight jacket, but otherwise, no.

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My point was that I don't think she ever looks good regardless of what she is wearing. Well, maybe in a straight jacket, but otherwise, no.
Would that be as opposed to a gay jacket?
Correct spelling is 'strait', as in 'being in dire straits', and according to my dictionary it's a single word ('straitjacket'). I'd expect this from the Twitter crowd or a batch of Trumptards, but I thought as a whole we were smarter than that)
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MTG has a face like an ugly horse. If she were a kindly generous loving soul, you wouldn’t notice so much. But because she also oozes ugly from every pore, it’s impossible to overlook. She is a vile human being.
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Point taken Bill, straitjacket. You learn something every day.

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I was a bit concerned about "maternal comfort". Are we talking :oops: er . . . bosoms here?
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Bill--I checked the American Heritage Dictionary and it identifies straightjacket (one word) as an alternate spelling of straitjacket. A quick search reveals that the two word term (with strait or straight as the first word, and with or without a hyphen), are also commonly used. The OED lists only straitjacket as proper, but then they also show the use of analyse as proper, so draw your own conclusions. :nana

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Easy, Big RR. Clues are: American Heritage Dickshunary (i.e. wrong) and Oxford English Dictionary (i.e. correct)

We all know that US Americans spelled things with a zed (Z) because they couldn't write an ess (S) in the correct direction
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Big RR wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:44 pm
Bill--I checked the American Heritage Dictionary and it identifies straightjacket (one word) as an alternate spelling of straitjacket. A quick search reveals that the two word term (with strait or straight as the first word, and with or without a hyphen), are also commonly used. The OED lists only straitjacket as proper, but then they also show the use of analyse as proper, so draw your own conclusions. :nana   
Wonder how the judges would rule if you were given the word in the Scripps-Howard spelling bee (and there's a blast from the past; do they even have those any more?) and spelled it "s-t-r-a-i-g-h-t hyphen j-a-c-k-e-t"

All that means to me is that if people say, spell, or pronounce something incorrectly for long enough it becomes 'correct' usage and whoever is compiling dictionaries nowadays have given up the battle — or, in an attempt to rally one final stand under the banner of correct spelling, list it as an 'alternate' version or a colloquialism.   Any day now I expect to see some modern dictionary list the word 'aks' as an alternate pronunciation of 'ask'.
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Wonder how the judges would rule if you were given the word in the Scripps-Howard spelling bee (and there's a blast from the past; do they even have those any more?) and spelled it "s-t-r-a-i-g-h-t hyphen j-a-c-k-e-t"
I guess it would depend on what dictionary they chose to use for the spelling bee (I'm sure there was one announced in advance).

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All that means to me is that if people say, spell, or pronounce something incorrectly for long enough it becomes 'correct' usage
Well, I guess then you use analyse and aluminium? :D

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Wait, languages evolve and change as cultures evolve and change?! Oh the horror!!


And people say an English degree is useless. Seems it confers a common sense that is not all that common.
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Prefer the strait jacket. Strait and Straight have very different meanings and using either with jacket says very different things about the jacket.

As reading declines, even among educated Americans, the old political joke about insulting an opponent by calling them a 'thespian', or the story of PT Barnum's financial success using the word 'egress' properly, become meaningless.verbal communication becomes less precise and more sloppy,. But I don't want to be niggardly about it.

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Strict, strait, restrict, restrain, constrict, constrain all have similar etymologies if you go back far enough, and all have a common sense of tightness or a narrow situation and that is obviously the meaning of strait jacket. Dire Straits got it right; and of course Mark Knopfler can do little wrong.

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Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it (Matt. 7:13–14)
The gate to the narrow way is itself a tight squeeze, restricted. Effort is needed even to locate the durn thing. Also noting that "the Way" was the early name for Jesus-followers.
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I think Marjorie Taylor Green is concerned that she might be losing this race but she has put in a spurt on the last lap (to coin a phrase). She is worried that young white men have too much time on their hands so they go on the Internet and watch porn and read all kinds of crazy stuff that people come up with.

Mind you the young white chap in this clip seems comfortable about being accused of - well, spending too much time on porn sites. I can't see his hands but I'm not sure I want to.

Modestly Ms Green takes no credit for the 'all kinds of crazy stuff' on the Intertubes. Steven Colbert had a song about some of her more original - yeah, that's the word, original - concepts, which I just went back to, in order to remind myself. That was done in February last year! Plenty more material since then.

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I’m struggling to find the humor anymore.

Talk about you really couldn’t make this shit up? Here’s a story for you: Friday I was working with my hospice 95.5 year old for whom I’ve cared a year now. Her son, grandson and great grandson were visiting from Florida. They are the only MAGAts in the family. The comments and discussion were unnerving. I got the very clear impression that the very angry/aggrieved/hostile grandson would gladly slit my throat when the MAGAts come to power, nevermind the loving care I’ve shown his beloved grandma for the last year. No, I didn't engage in political discussion with him - he just knew I disagreed with him when he called for more attacks on FBI after we watched a bit on the news about the Ohio attack. He was one of those people who hums with the seething rage bottled inside. There are millions of them, you know. They would love nothing more than liberal tears at the end of their weapon.

Bottom line is that they have most of the privately owned guns. Things are not going to go well for many liberals if the civil war escalates. It is entirely possible and I don’t have confidence that the police or military would act to stop it.

Currently reading Barbara Walter’s How Civil Wars Start and How to Stop Them. She’s a political scientist expert on political instability who has studied closely the conditions that gave rise to civil wars of recent decades. USA exhibits all the red flags/alarm bells. Anocracy reigns in our country now and we are sliding further toward fascism every single day. It’s a topic of regular discussion on the news - did you ever in your wildest dreams imagine that it could happen here? In my idealist youth I could never imagine such a thing. It’s terrifying to be living this kind of history.

Good letter I found online at the Smoky Mountain News:
You’ll need to know this word — anocracy

To the Editor: A word most of us are unfamiliar with but will become commonplace in the months and years to come is anocracy — or semi-democracy — a form of government that is loosely defined as part democracy and part dictatorship, or as a regime that mixes democratic with autocratic features.

The Center for Systemic Peace has downgraded the United States of America’s system of government from a democracy to an anocracy. I invite the reader to confirm this on the CSP website.

The United States dropped below the “democracy threshold” (+6) on the polity scale in 2020 and is now considered an anocracy (+5). In the process the United States also lost its designation as the world’s oldest, continuous democracy; that designation now belongs to Switzerland (171 years), followed by New Zealand (142 years), and the United Kingdom (139 years). The CSP adds that further degradation of democratic authority will trigger an “Adverse Regime Change event.” It is significantly important that Americans understand that this downgrade can be explicitly tied to the Trump administration’s activities during and since his term in office.

This analysis also places the United States at “high risk of impending instability (i.e., adverse regime change and/or onset of political violence)” and designates “the ongoing efforts of the USA executive to circumvent electoral outcomes and subvert democratic processes as an ‘attempted (presidential) coup.’”

It appears the American experiment has run its course as a full-fledged democracy. Approximately two and one-half centuries is quite a stretch, but our era ended January 20th, 2017, the moment Donald Trump was sworn in as the 45th President of the United States.

Prior to that date, any theory proclaiming the United States would backslide this far would have been regarded as unimaginable, beyond comprehension. In retrospect it doesn’t require the skill of a brain surgeon to trace the cause of our collapse to the exact source.

The reason for our downfall isn’t rocket science and neither is the remedy. We all learned in school what democracy means; a “government of the people, by the people, and for the people.” We need not devise a foolproof plan to restore democracy in America, it’s been done: by Plato, “The strength of democracy is judged by the quality of its services rendered by its citizens;” also by Louis Pasteur, “The true democracy is that which permits each individual to put forth his maximum effort;” and by J.R. Lowell, “Democracy is that form of society, no matter what its political classification, in which every man (or woman) has a chance and knows it;” and Harry Fosdick, “Democracy is based upon the conviction that there are extraordinary possibilities in ordinary people.”

There is just one element missing, and this factor is entirely up to us. There was a well-known Italian patriot and revolutionary who lived in Lincoln’s time. His name was Giuseppe Mazzini (1805-1872) and his belief was that “democracy is the progress of all, through all, under the leadership of the wisest and the best.” It’s choice, not chance, that will determine our destiny; our lives are made up of the choices we make, and so it is with nations. We will survive or be destroyed by the people we elect to lead us. What else do we need to know?

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