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This Helped Restore A Little Of My Faith In Humanity...

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Which could definitely use some restoring...

Here's a lady who served on the Manafort jury, (not the lone hold-out, but she talks about her in the interview) who is a self-admitted hardcore Trump supporter, who drove to the trial every day with her MAGA hat in her car, who wanted Manafort to be innocent and even embraces Trump's "witch hunt" rhetoric about the Mueller investigation...

And yet despite all of this, she still put her oath as a juror first, weighed the evidence fairly and wound up voting guilty on all 18 counts (she even tried to help persuade the hold-out juror):
'I did not want Paul Manafort to be guilty, but he was,' says juror who supports Trump

NORTHERN VIRGINIA – Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team was one holdout juror away from winning a conviction against Paul Manafort on all 18 counts of bank and tax fraud, juror Paula Duncan told Fox News in an exclusive interview Wednesday.

“It was one person who kept the verdict from being guilty on all 18 counts,” Duncan, 52, said. She added that Mueller’s team of prosecutors often seemed bored, apparently catnapping during parts of the trial.

The identities of the jurors have been closely held, kept under seal by Judge T.S. Ellis III at Tuesday's conclusion of the high-profile trial.

But Duncan gave a behind-the-scenes account to Fox News on Wednesday, after the jury returned a guilty verdict against the former Trump campaign chairman on eight financial crime counts and deadlocked on 10 others.

Duncan described herself as an avid supporter of President Trump, but said she was moved by four full boxes of exhibits provided by Mueller’s team – though she was skeptical about prosecutors' motives in the financial crimes case.

“Certainly Mr. Manafort got caught breaking the law, but he wouldn’t have gotten caught if they weren’t after President Trump,” Duncan said of the special counsel’s case, which she separately described as a “witch hunt to try to find Russian collusion,” borrowing a phrase Trump has used in tweets more than 100 times.

“Something that went through my mind is, this should have been a tax audit,” Duncan said, sympathizing with the foundation of the Manafort defense team’s argument.

She described a tense and emotional four days of deliberations, which ultimately left one juror holding out. Behind closed doors, tempers flared at times, even though jurors never explicitly discussed Manafort’s close ties to Trump.

“It was a very emotionally charged jury room – there were some tears,” Duncan said about deliberations with a group of Virginians she didn’t feel included many “fellow Republicans.”

A political allegiance to the president also raised conflicted feelings in Duncan, but she said it ultimately didn’t change her decision about the former Trump campaign chairman.

“Finding Mr. Manafort guilty was hard for me. I wanted him to be innocent, I really wanted him to be innocent, but he wasn’t,” Duncan said. “That’s the part of a juror, you have to have due diligence and deliberate and look at the evidence and come up with an informed and intelligent decision, which I did.”


Duncan, a Missouri native and mother of two, showed Fox News her two notebooks with her juror number #0302 on the covers.

Her account of the deliberations is no longer a secret. And neither is the pro-Trump apparel she kept for a long drive to the federal courthouse in Alexandria every day.

“Every day when I drove, I had my Make America Great Again hat in the backseat,” said Duncan, who said she plans to vote for Trump again in 2020. “Just as a reminder.”
More (you can also watch the interview at the link; I can't find it on YouTube)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08 ... ounts.html

If somebody who has drunk as much of the orange kool aid as Ms. Duncan clearly has, can nevertheless still rise above that and consider the evidence fairly and objectively when called upon to do so there may yet be hope for our Republic...
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Fox News host Neil Cavuto issued one of his searing monologues on Thursday, criticizing President Donald Trump for focusing on the stock market’s positive performance while creating “a moral bust.”

″You are so darned focused on promoting a financial boom that you fail to see that you are the one creating this moral bust,” Cavuto said. “And we could all be the poorer for it.”

Cavuto was responding to Trump’s claim in a Fox News interview this week that the stock market would crash if he were impeached.

“You don’t prevent a constitutional crisis by threatening a financial one,” Cavuto said. “But, Mr. President, you guarantee both when your very actions and words create that crisis or make people think that you’re hiding one.”

The Fox News host then listed some of the president’s most “worrisome and tiresome” lies, calling out Trump for changing his story on controversies ranging from “hush money” payments to women who said they had affairs with him to his knowledge of a 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer in hopes of gathering damaging information on Hillary Clinton.

“You are right to say that some are out to get you,” Cavuto said to Trump. ”But oftentimes, Mr. President, the problem is you: what you say, and how you keep changing what you say"
https://www.aol.com/article/entertainme ... /23509246/
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But a Republican ideologue juror was evil enough to hang them on 10 counts.

Fuck the Republicans as they have fucked us.


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Re: This Helped Restore A Little Of My Faith In Humanity...

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But a Republican ideologue juror was evil enough to hang them on 10 counts.
Of course we don't know that, and the juror in the interview says she doesn't think that juror was even a Trump supporter, (and Mrs. Duncan has a lot of credibility on this, since she spent a great deal of time with the lone hold out, and was completely forth coming about her own support for Trump) but as usual Donald J. Rube never lets the facts get in the way of his narrative...

Rube, have you considered applying for a deputy press secretary position with the Administration? You certainly have the basic qualifications...

ETA:
Fuck the Republicans
Not sure what's brought on this desire of yours to have sex with Republicans, but here's a site you might want to check out:

https://www.republicanpeoplemeet.com/
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