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woke

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:36 pm
by wesw

Re: woke

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:33 pm
by Bicycle Bill
I've heard of a documentary; I've heard of a docu-drama; I've even heard of a "documerical".  But WTF is a 'documonial'??
Even Urban Dictionary — which is where I learned the Ebonic definition of 'woke' (silly me; I thought it just meant to rouse someone from their nightly slumber!) — doesn't have any listing for it...

Oh, here it is ... I just got a tweet from my subscription to "Onward Through The Fog" ... a site dedicated to winnowing the few bits of value out of the metric megatons of words being spewed on the air, in the press, and online today:
"Documonial" - a portmanteau of 'documentary' and 'testimonial'.  Best definition is a quasi-intellectual piece done in the style of what used to be known as 'journalism' containing just enough verifiable facts to avoid being labeled an outright falsification, but still filled with unsubstantiated claims and statements by a small number of individuals and outliers and intended to serve the agenda of its creator. Closest synonym to date: 'propaganda'.
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-"BB"-

Edited to add: You know, a definition like this deserves to be shared.  I just went over to pseudodictionary.com and made a submittal of this word to their database.
yes, I know the proper word should be 'submission' ... but both 'submission' and 'submittal' have their roots in 'submit' — so there, too   :nana  
Not to mention that 'submittal' is just more fun to say, and it doesn't carry all that S&M baggage that accompanies the word 'submission'  .....  -"BB"-

woke

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:42 pm
by RayThom
wes, Obama was still president when this video was created. Now, over three years later I'm sure almost all these #WalkAway "endorsers" probably have a different song to sing.

And then there's this from Snopes:
The #WalkAway Campaign used ads featuring stock photograph models and claimed they were Democrats leaving the party.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/walka ... ck-photos/

Chalk me up as one being quite dubious of this #WalkAway group's veracity.

Re: woke

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:50 pm
by Scooter
I skimmed through it just to get a laugh.

Mainly the same sauce of vague accusations - "We've been duped" (did whoever wrote this really not see the irony), Democrats want to keep you poor, Obama didn't do anything for black people - without a single concrete, factual example to back them up.

To which they added the usual distortions, like the Democratic Party of the 1800s supported slavery. I guess that's supposed to convince someone that today's Democratic Party hates black people, or something. It doesn't seem to occur to those using that line that most human institutions change over time.

Then there was the absolute whopper of lies - "Robert E. Lee and his wife were abolition activists."

Bullshit.

Lee was certainly no ideologue, and made some private statements about the evils of slavery. But he just as certainly never publicly supported abolition. And apparently slavery wasn't "evil" enough for him to manumit his own slaves.

It's not even a particularly original lie, the hagiographies of Lee wriiten in support of Lost Cause revisionism also exaggerated his opposition to slavery and glossed over his participation and profit from the institution.

Re: woke

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:14 pm
by wesw
hmmmm.

no one noticed the people......

...yet there they are.

woke.

what will you do?

I shudder to think.....

Re: woke

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:28 pm
by Lord Jim
wes, Obama was still president when this video was created. Now, over three years later
And yet wes's obvious motive for posting this was to try to suggest that Massa Trump is somehow getting African Americans to turn away from the Democratic party....


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Re: woke

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:24 pm
by wesw
no, he is just the messenger, the vehicle.....

we ain t got no got damned masters, excepting the lord.

we just got a govt. that we love.

done freed us all...., eventually.

excepting you....., you done sold yourself back.....

the ghost of john mc cain is all but forgotten, but the ghost of john paul jones still lives.....

Re: woke

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:39 pm
by Lord Jim
the ghost of john mc cain is all but forgotten
Not by President Yellow Belly...

He seems to be obsessed with him...

Re: woke

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:54 pm
by wesw
our children don t know who john paul jones was..., or Patrick henry, or Thomas paine, nor ben franklin, nor do they know ethan allen, nor do they know who Daniel Webster was.

we should be ashamed of ourselves.

I am.

I am trying to right my neglect of history and responsibility.

educate your kids, the schools will not.

Re: woke

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:16 pm
by Lord Jim
our children don t know who john paul jones was..., or Patrick henry, or Thomas paine, nor ben franklin, nor do they know ethan allen, nor do they know who Daniel Webster was.
I wonder how many of those our President could properly identify...

Benjamin Franklin, probably...(he's on the $100 bill...)

Patrick Henry maybe...(though I may be being overly generous...)

I wouldn't bet 10 cents on the Ignoramus-In-Chief being able to correctly identify any of the others...

Re: woke

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:25 pm
by wesw
you know who they were, and don t care.

Re: woke

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:39 am
by Joe Guy
wesw wrote:our children don t know who john paul jones was..., or Patrick henry, or Thomas paine, nor ben franklin, nor do they know ethan allen, nor do they know who Daniel Webster was.
I know a little about all of them. I've read Webster's dictionary more than once, I'm familiar with Ethan Allen's furniture and I am a great fan of John Paul Jones' bass playing. I'm not too familiar with Ben Franklin but I think he invented the hundred dollar bill and worked with Thomas Paine who invented common cents. I'm even less familiar with Patrick Henry but I think he said something like, "Give me liberty or give me meth". I had hearing problems when I was in school so I can't vouch for the authenticity of all of my historical knowledge.

Re: woke

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:46 am
by wesw
see?

joe knows......

Re: woke

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:56 am
by ex-khobar Andy
Per wes:
I shudder to think.....
That's what you are doing wrong wes. Try a little less shuddering and maybe the thinking will come. Worth a shot.

woke

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:28 am
by RayThom
wesw wrote:our children don t know who john paul jones was..., or Patrick henry, or Thomas paine, nor ben franklin, nor do they know ethan allen, nor do they know who Daniel Webster was...
Lord Dampnut often mentions many of these guys as being good friends of Frederick Douglass who is quite active with the new National Museum of African American History and Culture in DC.

As he always say, "I'm really smart, I have very high levels of intelligence."


Re: woke

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:09 am
by Lord Jim
wesw wrote:
...when trump wins, because of the black vote, maybe you ll open your mind.

wes
Posted right before the midterm election, on Oct 26th of last year:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18849&p=262044&hili ... te#p262044

Meanwhile, back at reality:
Trump Drove Black Voters to the Polls – to Choose Democrats

He's no Barack Obama. But President Donald Trump is having his own motivating effect on African-American voters, who overwhelmingly cast votes for Democrats in this month's midterms – in large part because of the damage Trump has done to the GOP brand, according to pollsters who surveyed African-Americans immediately before the elections.

Nine out of 10 African-Americans surveyed on the eve of the election said they were voting or had already voted early for a Democrat in the congressional races, up from 77 percent who said so in July, according to the survey by the African American Research Collaborative. And while a number of GOP candidates distanced themselves from their party's controversial leader or just tried to ignore him, polling showed Trump might as well have been on the ballot himself, the survey indicated.

Nearly 8 in 10 African-Americans said Trump made them "angry," while 85 percent of black women and 81 percent of black men said Trump made them feel "disrespected," according to the study. Similar majorities of African-American voters – 89 percent of women and 83 percent of men – said Trump's statements and policies will cause "a major setback to racial progress."

That Trump effect filtered down to damage even candidates in the Northeast and California, where the GOP contenders did not necessarily align with the president, and may have affected other ballot choices as well, Henry Fernandez, a principal at the collaborative, told reporters in a conference call. "African-American voters and other voters of color are associating Trumpism with all Republican candidates," Watkins said. "Even with Trump not being in the ballot, Trumpism was effectively on the ballot. The entire party has now been branded," he said.

Black women – who were integral in the narrow upset victory by Democratic Sen. Doug Jones of Alabama last December – also played an outsized role in electing Democrats in the midterms, said Ray Block, a political science professor at the University of Kentucky, assessing the poll. African-American women were more likely than black men to vote for the Democrat, by a 94 percent to 84 percent difference, according to the poll. In the Nevada Senate race specifically, for example, 93 percent of African-Americans voted for Democratic Sen.-elect Jacky Rosen.

The same percentage voted for Democratic gubernatorial nominee Stacey Abrams in Georgia – not enough to make her the Peach State's first female African-American governor but enough to show the potential power of the black vote, Block told reporters.

"It's not simply women voting for women," he said. "Anger and disrespect, I believe, are motivators for black turnout."
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar ... -democrats

You can post all the cherry-picked, anecdotal BS you want to try to dishonestly portray Blacks as somehow becoming more supportive of Trump wes...but...


I know how fond you are of quoting the Founding Fathers, so here's one for you:

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Re: woke

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:35 pm
by wesw
jim, I see it everyday in the dtreets, at the store, among my friends

they have awakened, and they did not go out in the midterms because they hate all y all crooked bastards.

they will vote for trump in droves

how many lower middle class blacks do you interact with on a daily basis?

how many?

you are sheltered

Re: woke

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:37 pm
by wesw
funny thing.....

....many of my white blue collar friends used to give me hell about my trump shirt,,,,

....now they say, nice shirt.

god knows if they will vote, doubtful really, most never have.....

if they do, it will be a landslide

Re: woke

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:18 pm
by Joe Guy
wesw wrote:how many lower middle class blacks do you interact with on a daily basis?
If you spend any time walking in downtown San Francisco you interact and trip over them quite often.

Re: woke

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:52 pm
by Lord Jim
wesw wrote:how many lower middle class blacks do you interact with on a daily basis?
Well let's see...

There's the butler, the chauffeur, the wine steward at the country club...

And oh yeah, the actor I employ to stand as a living Iron Jockey at the end of our drive way...

:roll:

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data" wes...

All the data confirms that you are in a complete la-la land fantasy about Blacks turning to Trump, but I understand that as a Trumpanzee fantasies are pretty much all you have to cling to, so I guess it works for you...

ETA:
funny thing.....

....many of my white blue collar friends used to give me hell about my trump shirt,,,,

....now they say, nice shirt.
They've probably learned that it's not a good idea to agitate a crazy person face-to-face...

Best to humor them...

There's a loon downtown who's come up to me several times insisting he's Jesus Christ...

I've never tried to talk him out of it...