Will General Michael Flynn be exonerated?

rubato · Post by **rubato** » Sun May 03, 2020 4:25 am

A perversion of justice. He did it and admitted it.

Econoline · Post by **Econoline** » Sun May 03, 2020 5:03 am

I told the truth.

I lied about telling the truth.

I'm now telling the truth about lying about telling the truth. Which I lied about. And that's the truth.

-- General Flynn

Bicycle Bill · Post by **Bicycle Bill** » Sun May 03, 2020 6:48 am

-"BB"-

rubato · Post by **rubato** » Sun May 03, 2020 1:21 pm

According to Darren OJ is innocent.

Yrs,
Rubato

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Sun May 03, 2020 4:24 pm

Darren · Post by **Darren** » Mon May 04, 2020 11:20 pm

Catherine Herridge

@CBS_Herridge

#FLYNN On new records, motion to dismiss, Judge Sullivan sets first deadline within days: “GOV shall file a response to Mr. Flynn's sealed motion by no later than 12:00 PM on 5/4/2020 and Mr. Flynn shall file his reply by no later than 12:00 PM on 5/6/2020” @CBSNews"

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Mon May 04, 2020 11:22 pm

Darren, I guess time will tell.

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Mon May 04, 2020 11:24 pm

Somebody really should just shoot this pointless diversion thread in the head...

Darren · Post by **Darren** » Mon May 04, 2020 11:51 pm

Lord Jim wrote: ↑
Mon May 04, 2020 11:24 pm
Somebody really should just shoot this pointless diversion thread in the head...

If you believe the mediademic will continue well into May, I can see why you think this thread is a diversion.

From my POV this is a preview of more "Flynn" type stuff coming up fast. If you wish to continue drinking in the media message on the corona virus, that's your choice.

There's a bigger picture. Whether you chose to explore or ignore is again your choice ... for awhile.

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Tue May 05, 2020 12:00 am

Now... later? Oh, man, the suspense is going to kill me.

Darren · Post by **Darren** » Tue May 05, 2020 11:39 am

RayThom wrote: ↑
Tue May 05, 2020 12:00 am
Now... later? Oh, man, the suspense is going to kill me.

Some addictions are deadly. Others no so much. But they can be debilitating and distracting.

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Tue May 05, 2020 2:06 pm

I think that much like some of wes' pointless diversion threads, so long as Darren insists on refusing to let it die a merciful death, this one would make a good home for novelty songs and classic comedy bits...(At least that would make the thread worth reading)

I think I'll start off with a number that seems particularly appropriate for anyone who has actually bee reading this thread regularly:

MajGenl.Meade · Post by **MajGenl.Meade** » Tue May 05, 2020 2:41 pm

OK - a bit appropriate

Darren · Post by **Darren** » Tue May 05, 2020 3:08 pm

America roots for underdogs. Flynn an underdog. Is it on the network media?

Posted May 3, 2020 at 3:05 PM

"Lavrentiy Beria, the infamous prosecutor for the murderous dictator Josef Stalin, boasted of his system of “justice” in the Soviet Union. “Show me the man,” he said, “and I’ll find you the crime.”

It is horrifying that several leading figures at the Federal Bureau of Investigation evidently adopted this standard in going after three-star General Michael Flynn, who has Rhode Island connections.

New documents finally disclosed under pressure from General Flynn and his lawyer, Sidney Powell, showed the FBI plotted to set up Mr. Flynn and bring him down.

He was driven out of his job as national security adviser to President Trump, and eventually pleaded guilty to lying to agents. Prosecutors had made clear they would target his son for prosecution unless he did so, Ms. Powell contends.

Mr. Flynn is trying to withdraw that plea, given that loads of exculpatory evidence has come to light.

The FBI decided to use the chaos surrounding the presidential transition to send agents to interview General Flynn at the White House in January 2017. Agents told him at the time he would not need a lawyer. Mr. Flynn, believing he was not a target, brought them in and talked openly with them.

Documents that the Justice Department unsealed late Wednesday revealed that top FBI officials pondered whether their “goal” in interviewing the general would be “to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired.”

In other words, it was a frame-up.

In America, that’s a no-no. There must be probable cause for investigations, lest the government abuse its powers and go after its political enemies, negating our core values of equal justice and our cherished First Amendment right to oppose the government politically.

It is possible now that some of the agents could be charged by U.S. Attorney John Durham, who is looking into an alleged conspiracy by members of the Obama administration against the incoming president."

BoSoxGal · Post by **BoSoxGal** » Tue May 05, 2020 3:34 pm

Are you insane or just stupid?

Catching bad guys in lies is literally what cops do all day long in America, and it is entirely legal. In fact, the Supreme Court has repeatedly sanctioned the police tactic of strategic lying to suspects in the process of interviewing (a/k/a interrogating) them, in order to catch them out in lies and thereby get to the truth.

The cops don’t ‘make’ anyone lie, except in the case of coerced confessions - and there is zero evidence that happened here. Flynn lied and he acknowledged lying.

And police and prosecutors make deals every day that include forgoing the prosecution of family members in order to get a perp to cooperate and confess. This is also perfectly legal. You might find it distasteful, but one can’t always use squeaky clean practices if one wants to catch lying scum.

If the loads of exculpatory evidence you are going on about amounts to Flynn lied and the cops invited him to, your guy has got nothing.

Who defends a liar with such vehemence, anyway? Only a Trump cultist.

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Tue May 05, 2020 3:52 pm

OK - a bit appropriate

A real toe tapper...

Econoline · Post by **Econoline** » Tue May 05, 2020 4:22 pm

Darren wrote: ↑
Tue May 05, 2020 3:08 pm
In other words, it was a frame-up.

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Tue May 05, 2020 5:27 pm

Darren · Post by **Darren** » Tue May 05, 2020 5:40 pm

BoSoxGal wrote: ↑
Tue May 05, 2020 3:34 pm
Are you insane or just stupid?

Catching bad guys in lies is literally what cops do all day long in America, and it is entirely legal. In fact, the Supreme Court has repeatedly sanctioned the police tactic of strategic lying to suspects in the process of interviewing (a/k/a interrogating) them, in order to catch them out in lies and thereby get to the truth.

The cops don’t ‘make’ anyone lie, except in the case of coerced confessions - and there is zero evidence that happened here. Flynn lied and he acknowledged lying.

And police and prosecutors make deals every day that include forgoing the prosecution of family members in order to get a perp to cooperate and confess. This is also perfectly legal. You might find it distasteful, but one can’t always use squeaky clean practices if one wants to catch lying scum.

If the loads of exculpatory evidence you are going on about amounts to Flynn lied and the cops invited him to, your guy has got nothing.

Who defends a liar with such vehemence, anyway? Only a Trump cultist.

I'll take that as you're saying the charges against him will not be dismissed. Because, as you pointed out and believe, the Supreme Court has already signed off on those actions by law enforcement.

Other than his episode with the FBI what qualifies him for the "scum" designation.

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Tue May 05, 2020 8:53 pm

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