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Incapable of empathy. Psychopath.
glibness/superficial charm, grandiose sense of self-worth, need for stimulation/proneness to boredom, pathological lying, conning/manipulation, lack of remorse/guilt, shallow affect, callousness/lack of empathy, parasitic lifestyle, promiscuous sexual behavior, early behavior problems, lack of realistic, long-term goals, impulsivity, failure to accept responsibility, many short-term marital relationships, juvenile delinquency and criminal versatility
Sound familiar?
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Every time I hear the POS-ic say "Many people. . . " I scream at the tv screen for some reporter, any reporter, to say: NAME TWO.

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Incapable of empathy. Psychopath.
The thing about Trump is, he's not even capable of faking it...

Hell, even Ted Bundy was capable of that...
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Well Ted Bundy was effective at what he did.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Sure, but Trump has blown Bundy’s kill stats way out of the water. So who is the better psychopath?
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Social Pathology (Trump) =/= Psycho Pathology (Bundy)

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Psychopaths are psychopaths- they don’t all engage in criminal behavior, although they are roughly 15-25x more likely to than the general population. They make up 1% of the population, but studies suggest they probably make up 10% of CEOs in business. There’s a body of excellent reading material on the subject - Hare and Dutton are good places to start.
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I have a fondness of describing our Grifter-in-Chief as a sociopath.

Much like OJ Simpson, but without slaughtering anyone directly.
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RayThom wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:56 pm
I have a fondness of describing our Grifter-in-Chief as a sociopath.

Much like OJ Simpson, but without slaughtering anyone directly.
Neither Simpson nor Trump would fit the parameters of sociopathy; sociopaths are generally not capable of mainstream success in life because they’re not capable of controlling their rage and impulsivity to the degree that psychopaths can. Sociopaths are more often career criminals.
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Over 60,000 dead and this is where his focus is:

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BoSoxGal wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:22 pm
RayThom wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:56 pm
I have a fondness of describing our Grifter-in-Chief as a sociopath.

Much like OJ Simpson, but without slaughtering anyone directly.
Neither Simpson nor Trump would fit the parameters of sociopathy; sociopaths are generally not capable of mainstream success in life because they’re not capable of controlling their rage and impulsivity to the degree that psychopaths can. Sociopaths are more often career criminals.
I thought it was the other way around, but then again the sources I read often make no distinction between sociopathy and psychopathy, they state them to be interchangeable terms for ASPD (Anti-Social Personality Disorder). Most sociopaths I've had the misfortune to run across could be outwardly quite charming, but only as a way to manipulate others. They'd make other people lose their temper, yet continue with that false calm to make it look like they other person was the unreasonable one. Their own rage only came out when someone finally called them out on their behavior, not that it mattered because for a sociopath they don't give a shit about anyone else, but they do not want to be marginalized because they ALWAYS have to be in control.
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BoSoxGal wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:22 pm


Neither Simpson nor Trump would fit the parameters of sociopathy; sociopaths are generally not capable of mainstream success in life because they’re not capable of controlling their rage and impulsivity to the degree that psychopaths can. Sociopaths are more often career criminals.
When did you get the humourectomy, was it covered by your health insurance?
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Gob wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 9:52 am
BoSoxGal wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:22 pm


Neither Simpson nor Trump would fit the parameters of sociopathy; sociopaths are generally not capable of mainstream success in life because they’re not capable of controlling their rage and impulsivity to the degree that psychopaths can. Sociopaths are more often career criminals.
When did you get the humourectomy, was it covered by your health insurance?
This is America, nothing is covered by our health insurance.

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Grieving Families Need Help Paying for COVID-19 Burials, but Trump Hasn’t Released the Money

As the U.S. death toll from the coronavirus mounts, President Donald Trump has yet to free up a pool of disaster relief funding specifically intended to help families cover burial costs.

Approximately 30 states and territories have requested the funding as the pandemic spreads across the country and struggling families ask for help burying their dead. The funding is part of the wide array of “individual assistance” programs handled by the Federal Emergency Management Agency to help disaster victims. But Trump has sharply limited what kinds of assistance FEMA can provide, and the agency has told states their requests are “under review” or only agreed to pay for counseling services for their residents.

Often in disasters, the federal government steps in to reimburse families for funeral expenses. FEMA offered funeral assistance after Hurricane Katrina and Superstorm Sandy. The amount varies, but a September 2019 report from the Government Accountability Office found that FEMA paid about $2.6 million in response to 976 applications for funeral costs of victims of three 2017 hurricanes, or an average of about $2,700 per approved application.

But with the coronavirus, the funding stream has remained closed, despite calls from politicians including New York Democrats Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. At least 58,000 people have died of COVID-19 in the United States, and those deaths are coming as tens of millions of people deal with lost jobs.

In response to questions, FEMA stated that the decision on which programs to fund is in Trump’s hands.

“The approval of programs in response to a disaster declaration request is made at the discretion of the President,” a FEMA spokesperson said.


On April 28, Trump issued a memorandum authorizing crisis counseling assistance through FEMA, but noted that the order “shall not be construed to encompass any authority to approve other forms of assistance.” That language effectively bars FEMA from granting states other forms of aid.

A spokeswoman for the White House’s Office of Management and Budget, Rachel Semmel, referred questions to FEMA, saying “Individual Assistance is within FEMA’s area of responsibility.” White House spokesmen Devin O’Malley and Judd Deere did not respond to questions.
https://www.propublica.org/article/fema ... oronavirus

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