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Econoline wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 7:21 pm
"Terrorist"? Maybe. "Organization"? Not so much.
Exactly! So how does that work?
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Polls show Trump in the same position in May as the last two one-term Presidents - worse, actually.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/politics ... index.html
There were more than 40 national public polls taken at least partially in the month of May that asked about the Biden-Trump matchup. Biden led in every single one of them. He's the first challenger to be ahead of the incumbent in every May poll since Jimmy Carter did so in 1976. Carter, of course, won the 1976 election. Biden's the only challenger to have the advantage in every May poll over an elected incumbent in the polling era.
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Fire, pestilence and a country at war with itself: the Trump presidency is over

You’d be forgiven if you hadn’t noticed. His verbal bombshells are louder than ever, but Donald J Trump is no longer president of the United States.

By having no constructive response to any of the monumental crises now convulsing America, Trump has abdicated his office.

He is not governing. He’s golfing, watching cable TV and tweeting.

How has Trump responded to the widespread unrest following the murder in Minneapolis of George Floyd, a black man who died after a white police officer knelt on his neck for minutes as he was handcuffed on the ground?

Trump called the protesters “thugs” and threatened to have them shot. “When the looting starts, the shooting starts,” he tweeted, parroting a former Miami police chief whose words spurred race riots in the late 1960s.

On Saturday, he gloated about “the most vicious dogs, and most ominous weapons” awaiting protesters outside the White House, should they ever break through Secret Service lines.

Trump’s response to the last three ghastly months of mounting disease and death has been just as heedless. Since claiming Covid-19 was a “Democratic hoax” and muzzling public health officials, he has punted management of the coronavirus to the states.

Governors have had to find ventilators to keep patients alive and protective equipment for hospital and other essential workers who lack it, often bidding against each other. They have had to decide how, when and where to reopen their economies.

Trump has claimed “no responsibility at all” for testing and contact-tracing – the keys to containing the virus. His new “plan” places responsibility on states to do their own testing and contact-tracing.

Trump is also awol in the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

More than 41 million Americans are jobless. In the coming weeks temporary eviction moratoriums are set to end in half of the states. One-fifth of Americans missed rent payments this month. Extra unemployment benefits are set to expire at the end of July.

What is Trump’s response? Like Herbert Hoover, who in 1930 said “the worst is behind us” as thousands starved, Trump says the economy will improve and does nothing about the growing hardship. The Democratic-led House passed a $3tn relief package on 15 May. Mitch McConnell has recessed the Senate without taking action and Trump calls the bill dead on arrival.

What about other pressing issues a real president would be addressing? The House has passed nearly 400 bills this term, including measures to reduce climate change, enhance election security, require background checks on gun sales, reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act and reform campaign finance. All are languishing in McConnell’s inbox. Trump doesn’t seem to be aware of any of them.

There is nothing inherently wrong with golfing, watching television and tweeting. But if that’s pretty much all that a president does when the nation is engulfed in crises, he is not a president.

Trump’s tweets are no substitute for governing. They are mostly about getting even.

When he’s not fomenting violence against black protesters, he’s accusing a media personality of committing murder, retweeting slurs about a black female politician’s weight and the House speaker’s looks, conjuring up conspiracies against himself supposedly organized by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and encouraging his followers to “liberate” their states from lockdown restrictions.

He tweets bogus threats that he has no power to carry out – withholding funds from states that expand absentee voting, “overruling” governors who don’t allow places of worship to reopen “right away”, and punishing Twitter for factchecking him.

And he lies incessantly.

In reality, Donald Trump doesn’t run the government of the United States. He doesn’t manage anything. He doesn’t organize anyone. He doesn’t administer or oversee or supervise. He doesn’t read memos. He hates meetings. He has no patience for briefings. His White House is in perpetual chaos.

His advisers aren’t truth-tellers. They’re toadies, lackeys, sycophants and relatives.

Since moving into the Oval Office in January 2017, Trump hasn’t shown an ounce of interest in governing. He obsesses only about himself.

But it has taken the present set of crises to reveal the depths of his self-absorbed abdication – his utter contempt for his job, his total repudiation of his office.

Trump’s nonfeasance goes far beyond an absence of leadership or inattention to traditional norms and roles. In a time of national trauma, he has relinquished the core duties and responsibilities of the presidency.

He is no longer president. The sooner we stop treating him as if he were, the better.
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And let me add a hearty AMEN to that!

Where did you get that from. Scooter?

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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I always use the title of the article as a link.
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Darren wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 5:54 pm
Trump is exercising his tough on crime option. I never thought he'd become a politician.

"WASHINGTON D.C./PITTSBURGH (KDKA) — President Donald Trump took to Twitter on Sunday, saying that ANTIFA will be designated as a terrorist organization by the United States."
From a Guardian piece February 2018:
The White House addressed an August 2017 petition seeking to declare as a terrorist organization “AntiFa”, a loose collection of self-proclaimed anti-fascist activists whose occasionally violent protests attract national headlines. The White House said Trump opposes violence but that federal law provides no “mechanism for formally designating domestic terrorist organizations”.
I'm not sure what changed.

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Darren wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 5:54 pm
Trump is exercising his tough on crime option. I never thought he'd become a politician.

"WASHINGTON D.C./PITTSBURGH (KDKA) — President Donald Trump took to Twitter on Sunday, saying that ANTIFA will be designated as a terrorist organization by the United States."
Let me try to sort this out.

According to Wikipedia, the term "antifa" is a loanword from German, taken as a shortened form of the word antifaschistisch ("anti-fascist").  ANTIFA (whether capitalized or in lower-case form) in the United States is a far-left-wing, anti-fascist, militant political activist movement that comprises autonomous activist groups that aim to achieve their political objectives through the use of direct action rather than through policy reform.  Activists engage in varied protest tactics, including digital activism, property damage and physical violence, and harassment against those whom they identify as fascist, racist, or on the far-right.  Individuals involved in the movement tend to hold anti-capitalist views and subscribe to a range of ideologies such as anarchism, Marxism, socialism, and social democracy. (emphasis/underlining mine)

So the leader of one of the most fascist examples of American government in recent memory has declared a disjointed group (see the part about "autonomous activist groups" above) that holds diametrically-opposing viewpoints to be a "terrorist organization".  Just like when LBJ and the Democrats declared the John Birch Society a terrorist organization too.  Oh, wait — that never happened, did it?

Yet one more example of the "you're either with us or against us" mentality of the orange turd currently occupying the Führerbunker beneath the ⃥R⃥e⃥i⃥c⃥h⃥s⃥t⃥a⃥g⃥  White House.
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the real scary thing is, I think he still can win; Nixon did in 1972 when we faced a tanking economy, violence in the streets, and sharply dividied electorate. I certainly hope he's voted out, but more years of "cheetocracy" scares the hell out of me.

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I think his path to re-election is rapidly shrinking. (chance of an attempted extra-constitutional usurpation of power is growing)

His bible stunt has backfired extraordinarily and I worry about his future actions if he sees his base further erode. The pro is the country will further unite against Trump the con is the damage done in the meantime will be deeper and longer lasting.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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CP--perhaps (and I sincerely hope so), but his bible stunt will play well with his base, as will his tough law and order talk (which is just a thinly disguised "let's keep the damn darkies in their place"). I sincerely hope it will erode his base, but I am not certain about that--it might attract more racists and pissed off people seeking a strong man (although a piss poor example of any type of man). Think of Nixon in 1972--he had Spiro Agnew on his ticket; hew was (until the very end) escalating and having draftees killed; he cracked down on legitimate protests and made up stories about how they were threatening the country; he had an extremely divided electorate; and yet he won with a gigantic landslide. Sure, some was the fault of his competition and their big missteps (remember Eagleton?) and Trump is no Nixon (Nixon at least had some intelligence and the ability to compromise, like with China), but we may still see four more years.

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Here's one of the darkies that turned himself into the police in Pittsburgh. He's twenty years old and ignored the calls of the protestors to stop.

"Brian Jordan Bartels, 20, of Shaler, arrived at police headquarters early Monday evening. He was accompanied by an attorney, and did not comment as he entered the building.

A criminal complaint shows that Bartels faces felony charges of criminal mischief, institutional vandalism and riot, and misdemeanor counts of recklessly endangering another person.

Police said Bartels broke the windows of a marked vehicle Uptown against the wishes of peaceful protesters who tried to stop him."

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My, he doesn't look like a darkie; but maybe you have better ways to identify them than I do. :shrug

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Darren wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:15 pm
Here's one of the darkies that turned himself into the police in Pittsburgh. He's twenty years old and ignored the calls of the protestors to stop. "Brian Jordan Bartels, 20, of Shaler, arrived at police headquarters early Monday evening. He was accompanied by an attorney, and did not comment as he entered the building.A criminal complaint shows that Bartels faces felony charges of criminal mischief, institutional vandalism and riot, and misdemeanor counts of recklessly endangering another person.Police said Bartels broke the windows of a marked vehicle Uptown against the wishes of peaceful protesters who tried to stop him."
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Darren, and your point being...?

Or did you just need to use the word "darkies" in a different context?
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Darrin has to keep his posting numbers up.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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To be fair, I originally raised the term in my post, but his post/photo reveals that he apparently has a problem realizing what the word means.

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Darren is quite capable of using words ironically. Maybe he could have put quotation marks around the word to emphasize his point.

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