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"Trumpademic" maybe?

Just under 5,000,000 cases; over 160,000 deaths. "It is what it is."

Over 5,400,000 cases; over 170,000 deaths.

And now he's talking openly about eliminating funding for Social Security and Medicare.

America is going to be the next Venezuela under Trump.

I don't think the SS funding scheme stands a chance in Congress, and, while it plays well with his base, could blow up in his face when those on social security--people who do vote--see their funding dry up; many would vote for anyone to keep that from happening because they know damn well that ti will lead to a loss of the benefits they rely on. And they'll vote their wallets.

On top of that, if we eliminate the payroll tax, the break even point will require a tax increase of nearly 13% to cover the SS revenue and nearly another 3% for meidicare. Who is going to support what will be perceived as a 16% boost in the income tax (OK, it may be a bit lower if it applies to all income, including interest, capital gains, and pensions and social security benefits)? And you can pretty much bet this would be laid on the backs of the individual tapayers who, unless they are self employed, pay only half of that?

This is the mark of a desperate man trying to find an issue to energize his base; he has deferred the payroll tax temporarily, claiming recent legislation gives him the ability to do that in the same way that he deferred the tax deadline to July 15; and then trying to make it an issue. I doubt there's very much support move SS/medicare to the general fund, and even many republican legislators would hesitate publicly supporting that for fear of losing votes.

I can't believe Trump would even hint at cancelling or even defunding Social Security, let alone say so out loud.  How many of those red-state voters that delivered most of the American midsection and south as well as swung a couple states like Wisconsin and Indiana to him in 2016 don't have a 401K or huge stock portfolios to fall back on, or are already on Social Security or very close in age to being able to sign up for it themselves?  Don't they know that they'll be cutting their own throats, as well as those of their parents and grandparents?

It sounds like Trump has gone straight past unbalanced and mentally unstable all the way to "babbling, incontinent idiot who's sitting in a pool of his own piss and playing with his turds".

-"BB"-

Unfortunately Trumpanzees either think that SS should be abolished and they'd be better off managing that money themselves, or that it will continue to be funded by some magic money tree that will sprout up once all them illegal immigrants are gone.

Rapidly approaching 6 million total cases.

Already past 180,000 deaths.

Over 200,000 deaths, over 6.7 million cases.

There will be 500,000 - 600,000 dead by years end if current models bear out - with flu coming and people headed indoors, shitstorm is on the horizon.

11,124,894 cases, 250,445 deaths.

Today there were over 180,000 new cases and over 2,600 deaths.

Is that what "getting down to zero" looks like?

Still a "mediademic"?

How about 600,000? Still a "mediademic"?

Exciting developments in our pandemic - soon to come a fourth wave suffered almost exclusively by antivaxxers! This should be interesting.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/08/us/misso ... index.html


Missouri and the other low vaccination rate southern states are also low very high on the average BMI chart. This Delta Dawn will be wearing the lilies of death.

Lest you be tempted to regard this story as "good" news, here's the really really bad part of that story:

In fact, a new data analysis has identified clusters of unvaccinated people, most of them in the southern United States, who are vulnerable to surges in Covid-19 cases and could become breeding grounds for even more deadly variants.

Viruses do not just float around in the air humming to themselves until some poor bastard walks through the wrong errant breeze. They live inside hosts. This one is still being passed from host to host, by the millions, and in those hosts it is still doing what viruses do: mutating, again and again, until it finds a version of itself that will be more successful at surviving attempts to fight it.

Somewhere in there will appear the Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, and Theta variants. Given enough time to mutate, and enough bodies to host new mutations, eventually one of these will be exponentially more deadly, and/or more transmissible, and/or more vaccine-resistant. Then we're all screwed.

But Econo - hasn't the south always been a breeding ground for even deadlier variants?

Econoline wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:14 am

Lest you be tempted to regard this story as "good" news, here's the really really bad part of that story:

In fact, a new data analysis has identified clusters of unvaccinated people, most of them in the southern United States, who are vulnerable to surges in Covid-19 cases and could become breeding grounds for even more deadly variants.

Viruses do not just float around in the air humming to themselves until some poor bastard walks through the wrong errant breeze. They live inside hosts. This one is still being passed from host to host, by the millions, and in those hosts it is still doing what viruses do: mutating, again and again, until it finds a version of itself that will be more successful at surviving attempts to fight it.

Somewhere in there will appear the Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, and Theta variants. Given enough time to mutate, and enough bodies to host new mutations, eventually one of these will be exponentially more deadly, and/or more transmissible, and/or more vaccine-resistant. Then we're all screwed.

I believe there is already an Epsilon variant from California that largely fizzed out - not aggressively transmissible like Delta.

But yes more infection means more opportunities for variants and already the mRNA vaccines with the strongest efficacy are beginning to see rising breakthrough infection and some waning efficacy - Pfizer is working on a booster as we speak.

The ages of people getting very sick, hospitalized and dying in India with the Delta variant is getting lower all the time. There is a very real possibility that this fall will see another surge and this one begins killing more children. 11 and unders don’t even qualify for vaccination still, don’t even have the opportunity to protect themselves.

Why won’t people just get vaccinated?!