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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:01 pm
Where do you clowns get "appeasement" from? Smell the damn coffee. Biden must undo Trump wherever possible but if he's got a Rep Senate and the American voters have reduced his House margin, you'd damn well better pipe down or it's the fire next time.

You really piss me off saying "no no x100" to quote: building a strong economy with equal opportunity. Police reform. Health care. Engagement with the world. It also requires strength - zero tolerance for rioters, street-occupations and right militias. Much stronger gun control. unquote

What is the matter with you people? Are those not things that you want FFS?
And which of those things we want has had ANY buy-in from the GOP, ever?

I think the majority of people were sufficiently revolted by Trump to vote against him, but he and his right -wing media flaks scared enough of them about the Blacks and the Muslims and the Socialists and the Black Muslim Socialists doing Black Muslim Socialism to them to vote for down-ballot Republicans so that AOC can't tell them what to do. But the Dems still have a House majority and may very well control the Senate in January if Stacey Abrams has anything to say about it.
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BoSoxGal wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:40 pm
ex-khobar Andy wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:16 pm
Darren wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:43 pm


The same ones that quickly called Hawaii for Biden.
What, did they get Hawaii wrong? Only CA had a larger percentage of Biden votes.
Have they called Alaska yet?
No. But then if you had the slightest interest in this election or more than 2 fucking brain cells you would know that or have the gumption to look it up.
EXCUUUUUUUUUUSE ME!!

MASSACHUSETTS had the largest percentage of Biden votes! 65.6%!!

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You're correct of course - I'm not sure what I was looking at when I checked the MA numbers - it's possible I was clicking on the CNN map and my fat fingers migrated all the way to RI. They came in at 59 point something and I was surprised because I thought MA was mid-sixties.

ETA:Clearly if I had functioning brain cells I would have double checked the data. Mea maxima culpa.

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I was hoping we’d get to the high 60s as some polls showed, but I’m grateful we are still the mostest bestest liberals in the whole crazy country.

Had to run errands today and passed a Trump sign I hadn’t seen before - the usual TRUMP but instead of MAGA or Keep America Great or No More Bullshit, it said The Best Is Yet to Come!! and of course I visualized that crazy screeching convention speech from Kimberly Guilfoyle and I just burst out laughing.

The best is yet to come, indeed. Trials and sentencings, we can only hope.

By the way I read a piece this last few days in the Atlantic I think talking about the shit show that was the Trump campaign, which blew through hundreds of millions unaccounted for and came up short for the ad buys in the final weeks of the run, which probably didn’t help his turnout in those key states. Anyway apparently at some of the major donor fundraisers Guilfoyle got drunk, talked about sex and ‘jokingly’ offered lap dances as prizes to the biggest donors. Apparently there is good reason that FOX had to pay out millions on her behavior, she doesn’t have a filter. Perfect match for Donnie Jr.
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Stolen from Wonkette: "When Trump wins, liberals are told we must understand Trump supporters, and when Trump loses, liberals are told we must understand Trump supporters." Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.


(I could also add: when Trump wins, liberals are told "Fuck your feelings", and when Trump loses, liberals are told "Fuck your feelings.")
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BoSoxGal wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:08 am
I was hoping we’d get to the high 60s as some polls showed, but I’m grateful we are still the mostest bestest liberals in the whole crazy country.

Had to run errands today and passed a Trump sign I hadn’t seen before - the usual TRUMP but instead of MAGA or Keep America Great or No More Bullshit, it said The Best Is Yet to Come!! and of course I visualized that crazy screeching convention speech from Kimberly Guilfoyle and I just burst out laughing.

The best is yet to come, indeed. Trials and sentencings, we can only hope.
Yepper! The best is yet to come. There will be indictments.
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Darren wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:29 am
Yepper! The best is yet to come. There will be indictments.
Are you still betting on Trump?

Or are you talking about him being indicted?

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Darren wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:29 am
Yepper! The best is yet to come. There will be indictments.
Oh. Yah. "The indictments." :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Sue U wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:50 pm
And which of those things we want has had ANY buy-in from the GOP, ever?

I think the majority of people were sufficiently revolted by Trump to vote against him, but he and his right -wing media flaks scared enough of them about the Blacks and the Muslims and the Socialists and the Black Muslim Socialists doing Black Muslim Socialism to them to vote for down-ballot Republicans so that AOC can't tell them what to do. But the Dems still have a House majority and may very well control the Senate in January if Stacey Abrams has anything to say about it.
I was a little angry last night (my time) when I wrote my response to you and Guin. My apologies for the tone.

I was not suggesting appeasement of anyone. It is to be hoped that Georgia goes the correct way in January, but that is by no means certain. Biden has neither a mandate from America nor (currently) the congressional backing to make sweeping changes but must, as he has said himself, seek cooperation, agreement, compromise to begin to straighten out this mess. Exit polls seem to have made it crystal clear that the number one issue is the economy. We must build a more equitable, accessible, and empowering economy. On that and from that, we surely can and must increase the minimum wage, improve edumacation, reform the police, provide access to healthcare, etc.

Biden (it appears) will have to rely more upon Executive Orders than Congress, but who knows? And he won't have to bow to the radical left of his own party who are the ones I hold responsible for the failure to turn the Senate (thus far). You can sneer at your fellow citizens for not wanting America to become a radical left playground and pretend they were brain-washed by right-wing scum like *ucker Carlson and Hannity, but the fact is that 70 millions of people were not so lacking as to ALL be so warped. When I see "protestors" burning down businesses, I don't need the conspiracy nutcases to point fingers at "Black Muslim Socialism" (that's quite good) to know where the arrests should be directed. A desire for law'norder is not anti-Contsitutional.
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Lawsuits popping up like dandelions along with the DOJ being given its marching orders from Barr.

https://www.wgal.com/article/trump-camp ... r/34623123#
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Before 2016, it was well known that Trump:

Cheated at golf and was proud of it.
Starred in a phoney reality show where he read lines written by somebody else
Was a piss-poor business man who made a career out of buying onto a business at a peak and selling at a low.
Was a racist land-lord who rejected black tenants and preferred Jewish accountants.
Was a complete ass-kisser to anyone on any "A" list
Was a notorious womanizer
Was a teetotaler who sold booze
Phoney-ed up his school and business record every chance he could

His 3.6 years as POTUS demonstrated he changed on none of the above.
Yet 70 million American voters wanted him to continue in office.

This scares me and I fear for my grandchildren.

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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:52 am
You can sneer at your fellow citizens for not wanting America to become a radical left playground and pretend they were brain-washed by right-wing scum like *ucker Carlson and Hannity, but the fact is that 70 millions of people were not so lacking as to ALL be so warped. When I see "protestors" burning down businesses, I don't need the conspiracy nutcases to point fingers at "Black Muslim Socialism" (that's quite good) to know where the arrests should be directed. A desire for law'norder is not anti-Contsitutional.
MGM, you and I are in agreement that our priorities include:
MajGenl.Meade wrote:building a strong economy with equal opportunity. Police reform. Health care. Engagement with the world. It also requires strength - zero tolerance for rioters, street-occupations and right militias. Much stronger gun control.
How is any of that "wanting America to become a radical left playground"? I have additional priorities, including preserving the habitability of the planet, rehabilitating infrastructure, and expanding access to higher education. Do any of these make America a "radical left playground"? I also think the super-rich and large corporations should actually pay taxes, and in a greater share than do the less well-off and real people who are not legal fictions. Is any of that "radical left"? The fact that such ordinary policy widely implemented in the rest of the civilized world can be characterized as "wanting America to become a radical left playground" is direct evidence of brain-washing by right-wing scum. And BTW, a desire for Lawn Order is precisely what the BLM protestors are expressing: is it too much to ask that police not murder black people with impunity? As for "rioters," they are a tiny contingent -- some of them right-wing provocateurs -- using the cover of mass demonstrations for violence and destruction. I'm against that, too -- regardless of whether I may think that property is theft.

Burning Petard wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:25 pm
Before 2016, it was well known that Trump:

Cheated at golf and was proud of it.
Starred in a phoney reality show where he read lines written by somebody else
Was a piss-poor business man who made a career out of buying onto a business at a peak and selling at a low.
Was a racist land-lord who rejected black tenants and preferred Jewish accountants.
Was a complete ass-kisser to anyone on any "A" list
Was a notorious womanizer
Was a teetotaler who sold booze
Phoney-ed up his school and business record every chance he could

His 3.6 years as POTUS demonstrated he changed on none of the above.
Yet 70 million American voters wanted him to continue in office.

This scares me and I fear for my grandchildren.

snailgate
This is precisely why we need actual public trials for Trump and his enablers. The only lessons learned from the Trump Administration to date are that there are no consequences for egregious abuse of public office and that this kind of gross behavior is acceptable and even to be admired. Americans at large must be shown that these acts are wrong, that they damage all of us, and that those responsible must and will be held accountable.
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Well, that's OK then
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:26 pm
Well, that's OK then
So say we all.
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The entire basis for the DOJ inserting itself into the election process has collapsed:
Postal worker admits fabricating allegations of ballot tampering, officials say

A Pennsylvania postal worker whose claims have been cited by top Republicans as potential evidence of widespread voting irregularities admitted to U.S. Postal Service investigators that he fabricated the allegations, according to three officials briefed on the investigation and a statement from a House congressional committee.

Richard Hopkins’s claim that a postmaster in Erie, Pa., instructed postal workers to backdate ballots mailed after Election Day was cited by Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) in a letter to the Justice Department calling for a federal investigation. Attorney General William P. Barr subsequently authorized federal prosecutors to open probes into credible allegations of voting irregularities and fraud, a reversal of long-standing Justice Department policy.

But on Monday, Hopkins, 32, told investigators from the U.S. Postal Service’s Office of Inspector General that the allegations were not true, and he signed an affidavit recanting his claims, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee tweeted late Tuesday that the “whistleblower completely RECANTED.”

Hopkins did not respond to messages seeking comment.

The reversal comes as Trump has refused to concede to President-elect Joe Biden (D), citing unproven allegations about widespread voter fraud in an attempt to swing the results in his favor. Republicans held up Hopkins’s claims as among the most credible because he signed an affidavit swearing that he overheard a supervisor instructing colleagues to backdate ballots mailed after Nov. 3.

The Trump campaign provided that affidavit to Graham, who in turn asked the Justice Department and FBI to launch an investigation. (hmmm, the DOJ colluding with a political campaign, say it ain't so)

The Trump campaign also cited reports of the allegation in a federal lawsuit filed Monday against Pennsylvania election officials that seeks to prevent them from certifying the states’ election results. (and another lawsuit by the Trump campaign collapses for lack of evidence, how many is that now, 21? 22?)

The Trump campaign, the Justice Department and Graham did not immediately respond to requests for comment Tuesday.

The Erie postmaster, Rob Weisenbach, called the allegations “100% false” in a Facebook post and said they were made “by an employee that was recently disciplined multiple times.”

“The Erie Post Office did not back date any ballots,” Weisenbach wrote.

The Postal Service inspector general’s office informed members of Congress in a briefing on Tuesday that Hopkins had recanted his allegations, according to a congressional aide. The investigators first interviewed Hopkins on Friday, the aide said.

Hopkins’s allegations, without his name, were first aired last week by Project Veritas, an organization that uses deceptive tactics to expose what it says is bias and corruption in the mainstream media. Hopkins agreed to attach his name to the allegations late last week. He was instantly celebrated by Trump supporters.

Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe on Saturday hailed Hopkins as “an American hero” on Twitter. A GoFundMe page created under Hopkins’s name had raised more than $136,000 by Tuesday evening, with donors praising him as a patriot and whistleblower.

“Your donations are going to help me in the case I am wrongfully terminated from my job or I am forced into resigning due to ostrizization [sic] by my co-workers,” the page states. “It will help me get a new start in a place I feel safe and help me with child support until I am able to get settled and get a job.”

Separately, on Monday Project Veritas announced it was offering a “$25,000 reward” for “first hand election fraud tips in Pennsylvania.” Late Tuesday, O’Keefe claimed to have recordings of agents questioning Hopkins and said that he was pressured to sign a document he did not understand.

The Postal Service said in a statement over the weekend that it had referred Hopkins’s allegations to the U.S. Postal Inspection Service and the Office of Inspector General.

The Postal Inspection Service declined to comment on Tuesday morning, referring questions to the Office of Inspector General. A spokeswoman for that office, Agapi Doulaveris, said it was still “looking into the matter” Tuesday afternoon and declined to elaborate.

Hopkins was escorted out of his workplace on Monday afternoon and told not to return until the investigation was completed, according to one of the officials familiar with the probe.

A page on the social networking site LinkedIn that matches Hopkins’s name and other biographical details says he served in the Marine Corps from 2007 to 2012. Hopkins subsequently held numerous jobs for short periods of time, including as a nurse’s aide and as an employee at a hydrologic fracking company in Texas, according to a Facebook profile. The Facebook page says he became a letter carrier in Erie in August 2018.
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“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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