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The Cold War

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:54 am
by BoSoxGal
This just in: despite decades of GOP crowing that their hero Ronald Reagan won the Cold War and defeated the USSR, new evidence suggests a re-tallying of the score.

Turns out, the Russians won after all.
Nearly 50% of GOP think 'patriotic Americans' will soon 'have to take the law into their own hands'

6hrs ago
Nearly half of Republicans believe there will be a time soon where 'patriotic Americans' will 'have to take the law into their own hands,' according to a new poll.

The YouGov survey for found that 47% of Republicans surveyed agreed with the statement there will be a time coming when 'patriotic Americans have to take the law into their own hands.'

Just 9% of Democrats agreed with that same conclusion, in a shocking difference of opinion on partisan political influence on laws in the United States.

More than half of Republicans - 55% - also supported the use of force to 'preserve the traditional American way of life. Just 15% of Democrats supported the use of force to preserve the nation's values.

The poll took into account responsees from 1,753 registered voters.

The survey noted that Democrats and Republicans equally agreed on topics such as free and fair elections, free speech and peaceful protest.

Those results are also startling considering members of both sides of the aisle have defended violent actions from those with whom they agree.

Those survey questions were part of a larger survey about American attitudes and confidence toward elections in the wake of the results 2020 presidential election, which many Republicans have claimed without evidence were the result of fraud.

Danny Hayes, a George Washington University political science professor who co-directed the poll, said he worries that American voters have reached a point where they only trust the electoral system when their side wins.

'Most of the state and local officials who run our elections are long-time public servants whose goal is simply to help our democracy operate smoothly,' Hayes said.

'But if we've gotten to a place where voters trust the electoral system only when their side wins, then that undermines the idea of non-partisan election administration, which is essential for democracy.'

The results of the poll show that Democratic voters 'continue to have more faith in state and local elections than Republicans' but confidence in state and local election officials seems to vary on the voters' location and party affiliation.

Of the Democrats surveyed, 85% trusted local election officials and 76% trusted their state election officials. Those numbers were much lower among Republicans, with 63% trusting local officials and 44% trusting state officials.

The confidence of Republican voters in state election officials jumps to 70% if they lived in a state won by Trump in 2020.

'However, only 24% of Republicans living in states that Biden won have confidence in their state elections,' pollsters noted.

'Among Democrats there is a similar, though less pronounced, pattern with trust higher in Biden states than in Trump states.'

The poll found that 75% of Democratic voters were confident in regard to the integrity of the upcoming 2022 midterm elections. That number is down a single percentage point from the 2020 election, in which 76% of Democratic voters expressed confidence in the integrity of the election.

Just 28% of Republicans are confident in the integrity of the 2022 election, down 18 percentage points from the number of GOP voters, 46%, before the 2020 vote.
Kudos to Putin and his Manchurian candidate Trump - a truly brilliant strategy executed perfectly by this KGB mastermind and his useful idiot. From a purely analytical perspective one has to be impressed.

Re: The Cold War

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:37 pm
by liberty
Nothing can change the fact that you liberals supported the communist during the cold war; that is where a lot of the division in the country comes, and I use the term country loosely. The left wants a communist dictatorship in this country. Admit the truth you would favor concentration camps for racists; you would say it is just a coincidence that the inmates are none liberals. Can you be trusted? You can lie and say otherwise, but that makes you a liar.

Shelia Jackson praises communist Cuba and still gets reelected. You want to help Cuba succeed with trade. Instead of treating them like the murderous regime they are. Do you even care that Cuba sent interrogators to North Vietnam to torture US POWs during the Vietnam War?

Re: The Cold War

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:08 pm
by ex-khobar Andy
Yes, the Cubans sent interrogators to help their allies. The generally accepted number is three. Three.

Yes, I'd go along with the concept, which lib clearly embraces, that sending advisers / trainers / military to participate in overseas adventurism is bad form.

I'm not sure that the Cubans make the world's top ten in that regard.

Re: The Cold War

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:17 pm
by Big RR
Liberty--we trade with a lot of regimes, both communist and fascist, that are far more repugnant than the current Cuban regime. We cn pretend they don't exist, but the practical matter is that not every government will be to our liking. We may try to impose economic isolation to pressure them to change, but if they do not, perhaps fostering better relations might encourage it.

And FWIW, I have not heard of anyone, liberal or conservative, proposing or endorsing concentration camps for racists, not have I heard anyone seeking to introduce a communist dictatorship. Have you actually heard any of this? I seriously doubt it.
You can lie and say otherwise, but that makes you a liar.

Re: The Cold War

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:53 pm
by liberty
Big RR wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:17 pm

And FWIW, I have not heard of anyone, liberal or conservative, proposing or endorsing concentration camps for racists, not have I heard anyone seeking to introduce a communist dictatorship. Have you actually heard any of this? I seriously doubt it.
You can lie and say otherwise, but that makes you a liar.
No, I have not heard it, but the liberal mind is not hard to channel. I am not talking about any individual but the collective liberal mindset. You don't believe it, well why you don't ask some liberal friends: "Do you think it would be a better world if we could lock up all racists." Be sure to ask the question one-on-one privately and make it sound like it would be something you would support.

We already know what Shit Head would say.

Re: The Cold War

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:02 pm
by ex-khobar Andy
No, I have not heard it, but the liberal mind is not hard to channel.
Apparently it is.

Re: The Cold War

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:49 pm
by liberty
ex-khobar Andy wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:02 pm
No, I have not heard it, but the liberal mind is not hard to channel.
Apparently it is.
Do you think so? I offer you the same challenge I presented Big. Take it on, honestly, and I think you will be surprised. We are no different than the Germans of the 1920s. If you could disqualify the Trumpers from voting by locking them up in camps, you would do it.

Re: The Cold War

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:27 pm
by Big RR
I'll ask it here right now, does ANYONE, regardless if you identify as liberal, conservative, moderate, or none of the above think the world woudl be a better place if we locked up racists? I know I don't, and I'd be surprised if anyone did, but come on. Don't crowd, just state your answer.

And I'll give a second question, do you think the world would be better without racism? I'll start it of--certainly, I see no positive in racism.

But we do not end racism by locking people up for their racist beliefs.

Lib, is that so hard to comprehend?

Re: The Cold War

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:03 pm
by Bicycle Bill
liberty wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:53 pm
You don't believe it, well why you don't ask some liberal friends: "Do you think it would be a better world if we could lock up all racists." Be sure to ask the question one-on-one privately and make it sound like it would be something you would support.

We already know what Shit Head would say.
No, I don't think it would be a better world if we could lock up all the racists.  After all, we lock up criminals, and when they're released, all we've got are better, more polished criminals.  Besides,



Now, if we could just unscrew their heads and run 'em through an industrial-strength dishwasher until we get rid of all that toxic gunk that's in there ... well, that's something else again.
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Re: The Cold War

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:52 pm
by Burning Petard
BB sounds to me as tho you are advocating 're-education camps.'

snailgate

Re: The Cold War

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:20 pm
by Bicycle Bill
Burning Petard wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:52 pm
BB sounds to me as tho you are advocating 're-education camps.'

snailgate
They used to do it all the time ... it was called 'failing a grade' or 'being held back', so you went to summer school to get it right the second time.

I mean, if someone keeps telling you that black is white, up is down, water ain't wet, and 2+2=5, don't they NEED some re-education?
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