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Absolutely speechless

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2025 8:59 pm
by Sue U
Secretary of War Crimes Pete Hegseth tells top brass there are no longer any "rules of engagement" for the US military; Il Douche says he will use the military against "the enemy within" in American cities.

Those of you who are represented by Republican Senators and Representatives need to be calling them and shrieking RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2025 10:19 pm
by BoSoxGal
Former Air Force Secretary Kendall called the speeches bizarre, unhinged and dangerous.

Listening to some retired high ranking military officers on the news and just hoping their attitudes are reflective of currently serving officers and that they will refuse unlawful orders when they come, and they are most certainly coming.

Trump wants to unleash our military on the enemy within - that’s me, and most of us here.

I’m thinking about the sailor who threatened my life on Facebook in the wake of the Kirk murder; I have no doubt there are far too many in the enlisted ranks who would relish the opportunity to make war on their fellow citizens.

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2025 10:29 pm
by Sue U
I was reading about the bombing of Venezuelan boats, which was apparently somehow at the direction of Temu Goebbles Stephen Miller (???) with the blessing of Mango Mussolini. They didn't care whether it was a violation of international law or murder; their only question was whether anyone could stop them. This is how we are rolling right into a fascist dictatorship, and that is not hyperbole in any sense.

If Congress does not take immediate action to curb or impeach these motherfuckers, the American enterprise will be irretrievably lost.

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2025 11:43 pm
by liberty
I don't think the U.S. military would make war on the American people, unless it's in response to an insurrection. But if liberals think they can destroy federal property or invade and destroy military bases, they’re wrong. The Army National Guard can be used to protect those assets, citizens, and ICE agents when they’re carrying out their duties. Those are legitimate uses of the military.

You remember the 101st Airborne was used in Little Rock in 1957, wasn’t it? Technically, that was a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act—but in emergencies, emergency actions can be taken.

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2025 11:43 pm
by liberty
I don't think the U.S. military would make war on the American people, unless it's in response to an insurrection. But if liberals think they can destroy federal property or invade and destroy military bases, they’re wrong. The Army National Guard can be used to protect those assets, citizens, and ICE agents when they’re carrying out their duties. Those are legitimate uses of the military.

You remember the 101st Airborne was used in Little Rock in 1957, wasn’t it? Technically, that was a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act—but in emergencies, emergency actions can be taken.

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2025 11:46 pm
by liberty
Do you remember the insurrection in Portland? I think it was when insurrectionists attempted to burn a federal courthouse. I don't believe the National Guard was used in that case, but it should have been. That was a mistake, and it won't be made twice.

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 12:45 am
by Joe Guy
liberty wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 11:43 pm
......But if liberals think they can destroy federal property or invade and destroy military bases, they’re wrong. The Army National Guard can be used to protect those assets, citizens, and ICE agents when they’re carrying out their duties. Those are legitimate uses of the military.

Do you remember January 6th 2021? Trump later lied and said he offered the National Guard to "Nikki Haley"... Pelosi....

Then MAGA people broke down windows and doors to get into the Capitol Building and trashed it while some of them wanted to hang Mike Pence and do who knows what else to Nancy Pelosi and others..

And Trump pardoned those MAGA people.

Shouldn't "liberals" be allowed to destroy federal property too?

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 12:56 am
by Scooter
BoSoxGal wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 10:19 pm
hoping their attitudes are reflective of currently serving officers and that they will refuse unlawful orders when they come
They have already proven that they will obey unlawful orders, like the boat attacks that Sue just referenced, as well as the activities of National Guard units that were mobilized in cities.

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 2:20 am
by liberty
Joe Guy wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 12:45 am
liberty wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 11:43 pm
......But if liberals think they can destroy federal property or invade and destroy military bases, they’re wrong. The Army National Guard can be used to protect those assets, citizens, and ICE agents when they’re carrying out their duties. Those are legitimate uses of the military.

Do you remember January 6th 2021? Trump later lied and said he offered the National Guard to "Nikki Haley"... Pelosi....

Then MAGA people broke down windows and doors to get into the Capitol Building and trashed it while some of them wanted to hang Mike Pence and do who knows what else to Nancy Pelosi and others..

And Trump pardoned those MAGA people.

Shouldn't "liberals" be allowed to destroy federal property too?
I don't believe I disagree with anything you said, except I remember that the National Guard was used. So, if the Guard can be used in that case, why can't it be used in others where it's protecting federal property and personnel?

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 11:48 am
by MajGenl.Meade
liberty wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 2:20 am
I remember that the National Guard was used.
You remember correctly.
In preparation for planned protests, 340 D.C. National Guardsmen were activated for traffic and metro crowd control duties on January 5th and 6th. At around 1:49 p.m., after the Capitol security perimeter had been breached, Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund made a "frantic call" to Major General William Walker, the head of the D.C. National Guard, requesting immediate support. It was not until 5:40 p.m. that the National Guard finally arrived on the Capitol grounds. By this time, the Metropolitan Police Department and Capitol Police had largely contained the riot.

While some House Republicans have alleged that former President Trump was ignored by Pentagon officials after directing them to send the Guard, the House Jan. 6 Committee found that Trump made no effort to call senior defense officials that day. Instead, it was Vice President Mike Pence who instructed Pentagon leaders to deploy the troops
You'll also remember Mike Pence was one of the targets of the rioters and was himself cut off from avenues of escape as much as others.

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 1:24 pm
by Big RR
Sue U wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 10:29 pm
I was reading about the bombing of Venezuelan boats, which was apparently somehow at the direction of Temu Goebbles Stephen Miller (???) with the blessing of Mango Mussolini. They didn't care whether it was a violation of international law or murder; their only question was whether anyone could stop them. This is how we are rolling right into a fascist dictatorship, and that is not hyperbole in any sense.

If Congress does not take immediate action to curb or impeach these motherfuckers, the American enterprise will be irretrievably lost.
Congress should act, but it won't; they can't even pass a temporary bill to keep the government open because it might involve some compromise; and so the people (at least many of them) are willing to permit the executive to act unilaterally. that's always a danger, but with an asshole like Trump as president, it's a catastrophe.

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:26 pm
by BoSoxGal
The Enemy Within.jpg

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 9:42 am
by Burning Petard
Now I am absolutely speechless. I just heard very discouraging news. An NPR reporter was speaking from Tel Aviv and said Trump has the Nobel Peace Prize. It will be officially announced this Friday. This is after Trump called the leaders of most of the nations stupid when his teleprompter did not work at the UN. And then he announced all the wonderful best people in the nations of the mid east had agreed to his deal for Eternal Peace. All did not include Iran, Hamas, Or Israel. Better he should get the Ignoble Award eternally.

I hope NPR is wrong. According to Wikipedia, the prize is announced by the award committee in December, and it is supposed to go to the one who did the most for peace, DURING THE PREVIOUS YEAR. Maybe the NPR reporter is just incompetent.

Maybe it will be worth it to eat this shit sandwich. I hope when he makes his speech in Oslo the teleprompter is not working.

snailgate.

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:58 am
by BoSoxGal
Burning Petard wrote:
Mon Oct 06, 2025 9:42 am
Now I am absolutely speechless. I just heard very discouraging news. An NPR reporter was speaking from Tel Aviv and said Trump has the Nobel Peace Prize. It will be officially announced this Friday. This is after Trump called the leaders of most of the nations stupid when his teleprompter did not work at the UN. And then he announced all the wonderful best people in the nations of the mid east had agreed to his deal for Eternal Peace. All did not include Iran, Hamas, Or Israel. Better he should get the Ignoble Award eternally.

I hope NPR is wrong. According to Wikipedia, the prize is announced by the award committee in December, and it is supposed to go to the one who did the most for peace, DURING THE PREVIOUS YEAR. Maybe the NPR reporter is just incompetent.

Maybe it will be worth it to eat this shit sandwich. I hope when he makes his speech in Oslo the teleprompter is not working.

snailgate.
I think you must have misheard. The Nobel prize announcements begin this week, starting with medicine today and ending with peace on Friday and economics next week. It is not yet announced so Trump doesn't "have' it; he has been nominated numerous times and certainly somebody's nominated him for this year as well.

Here's the story from last Friday on PBS: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/this ... gs-to-know

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 10:37 am
by Burning Petard
My nod to Mr. Liberty. I did indeed badly read wiki on the Peace Prize. It clearly states it is announced in early October and presented in Oslo on the tenth of December, the date of the death of Alfred Nobel. The name of the winner will be announced this Friday.

But Mr. Trump''s eternal peace agreement should not be a factor because it is supposed to be based on activities during calendar year 2024.

snailgate.

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 11:20 pm
by BoSoxGal
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Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2025 2:55 am
by BoSoxGal
I’m absolutely speechless over the testimony of AG Eva Blondi today before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

I have never in my whole life seen anything like that in a congressional hearing. WTAF????????

She should be disbarred, for her wrecking of the DOJ and for being a stupid four letter word that I won’t write here because it upsets Meade so much.

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2025 11:33 am
by Burning Petard
Going back to the pep rally for Flag Officers, can anybody tell me why the sinking of civilian ships in international waters by US Navy, ''because they are shipping illegal drugs' with no attempt to board and inspect, is not a war crime or an act of piracy?

snailgate

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2025 3:18 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Thank you, BSG. I had the same thought but of course did not say it . . .

Re: Absolutely speechless

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2025 6:24 pm
by liberty
BoSoxGal wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 10:19 pm
Former Air Force Secretary Kendall called the speeches bizarre, unhinged and dangerous.

Listening to some retired high ranking military officers on the news and just hoping their attitudes are reflective of currently serving officers and that they will refuse unlawful orders when they come, and they are most certainly coming.

Trump wants to unleash our military on the enemy within - that’s me, and most of us here.

I’m thinking about the sailor who threatened my life on Facebook in the wake of the Kirk murder; I have no doubt there are far too many in the enlisted ranks who would relish the opportunity to make war on their fellow citizens.
I think you can only be classified as an enemy within if you are part of the ongoing insurgency against ICE, or if you're supporting it with aid and comfort.