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Socialism or Communism

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2025 3:35 pm
by Burning Petard
So is this socialism or communism? Perhaps Liberty can explain it to me.

Headlines from the NY Time today:

"$10 Billion and Counting: Trump Administration Snaps Up Stakes in Private Firms
The Trump administration is trading billions of dollars of taxpayer money for ownership stakes in companies. The unusual practice shows no sign of slowing."

So this is what the spirits of Ronnie Raygun and Barry Goldwater have produced. No matter. The price of eggs has gone down.

snailgate.

Re: Socialism or Communism

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 8:38 am
by datsunaholic
Neither. It's Dirigism.

Re: Socialism or Communism

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 2:07 pm
by Big RR
Po-tay-to/Po-tah-to

Face it, when the government owns and/or controls the means of production it's--"if it walks like a duck...", no matter what you call it. And when you have an ass like Trump at the helm it's totalitarianism--but a "stable genius' can handle the strain.

Re: Socialism or Communism

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 2:29 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
I don't know what this means for the Tangerine Mussolini but . . .
In August, the Department of Commerce became the largest shareholder in US chips giant Intel. NYT cited a public filing which showed that after the government deal, Donald Trump personally purchased around $1-5 million of Intel's corporate debt.
https://www.livemint.com/companies/news ... 77066.html

Re: Socialism or Communism

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 3:14 pm
by Big RR
I guess he figures the government has too much invested to permit it to fail or fall into bankruptcy, so he has a virtual guarantee of payment.

Re: Socialism or Communism

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:20 am
by liberty
Socialism is an economic system in which the government owns, operates, or controls segments of the economy, such as Social Security in our country, which I approve of. State communism, on the other hand, was, and still is to some extent, a totalitarian form of socialism. I do not consider present‑day China to be a communist system; they more closely resemble Nazi Germany in the 1930s, though not in all aspects, of course.