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Now Here's Something I Think We Can All Agree On...

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:33 pm
by Lord Jim
If you're an agent of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard looking to hire a Mexican Drug Cartel thug to carry out an assassination of the Saudi Ambassador to the US....


It would be best if first you made sure you weren't talking to an American DEA agent:
Iran 'Directed' Washington, D.C., Terror Plot, U.S. Says

FBI and DEA agents have disrupted a plot to commit a "significant terrorist act in the United States" tied to Iran, federal officials told ABC News today.

The officials said the plot included the assassination of the Saudi Arabian ambassador to the United States, Adel Al-Jubeir, with a bomb and subsequent bomb attacks on the Saudi and Israeli embassies in Washington, D.C. Bombings of the Saudi and Israeli embassies in Buenos Aires, Argentina, were also discussed, according to the U.S. officials.

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said in an announcement today that the plan was "conceived, sponsored and was directed from Iran" by a faction of the government and called it a "flagrant" violation of U.S. and international law.

"The U.S. is committed to holding Iran accountable for its actions," Holder said. ....

The new case, called Operation Red Coalition, began in May when an Iranian-American from Corpus Christi, Texas, approached a DEA informant seeking the help of a Mexican drug cartel to assassinate the Saudi ambassador, according to counter-terrorism officials.

The Iranian-American thought he was dealing with a member of the feared Zetas Mexican drug organization, according to agents.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-iran-t ... d=14711933

Re: Now Here's Something I Think We Can All Agree On...

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:51 pm
by dgs49
An "informant" is not the same as an agent.

In fact, the record is full of "informants" who remain deep into the criminal activities they are reporting on.

And they don't wear uniforms, as I recall.

Re: Now Here's Something I Think We Can All Agree On...

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:15 pm
by Gob
Long may they continue to make such errors!

Re: Now Here's Something I Think We Can All Agree On...

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:42 pm
by crackpot1
The more I hear of this story the more it sounds like something Written by the Coen Brothers

Re: Now Here's Something I Think We Can All Agree On...

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:26 am
by rubato
Countries who can be shown to support terrorism should be treated as being in a state of war against the countries who they support terrorism against.

All ships and cargos on the seas should be seized. All assets in foreign countries should be seized. All military assets should be reduced to rubble and glass.

yrs,
rubato

Re: Now Here's Something I Think We Can All Agree On...

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:12 pm
by Sue U
rubato wrote:Countries who can be shown to support terrorism should be treated as being in a state of war against the countries who they support terrorism against.

All ships and cargos on the seas should be seized. All assets in foreign countries should be seized. All military assets should be reduced to rubble and glass.

yrs,
rubato
So you think Saudi Arabia should go to war against Iran?

Re: Now Here's Something I Think We Can All Agree On...

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:28 pm
by rubato
Sue U wrote:
rubato wrote:Countries who can be shown to support terrorism should be treated as being in a state of war against the countries who they support terrorism against.

All ships and cargos on the seas should be seized. All assets in foreign countries should be seized. All military assets should be reduced to rubble and glass.

yrs,
rubato
So you think Saudi Arabia should go to war against Iran?
Yes. We and Saudi Arabia should notify Iran that when they commit an act of war we will respond in kind. It would be better if the UN could do this but the divisions in the security council will probably prevent such effective action for the time being.

It is intolerable to allow continuous low-level war by proxy to perpetuate wretchedness around the world.

yrs,
rubato

Re: Now Here's Something I Think We Can All Agree On...

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:57 pm
by Sue U
So what do you think this war and its end result would look like? Neither Saudi Arabia nor the US is in any position to invade Iran. I'm sure there is precious little the Saudis would love more than for the U.S. to nuke the shit out of Iran, but then you'd still be left with 70-some million pissed off Shiites. Not to mention the complete disruption of oil traffic from the Persian (Arabian?) Gulf. I can't see how this would be anything other than a complete disaster militarily, economically and diplomatically.

Re: Now Here's Something I Think We Can All Agree On...

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:56 am
by rubato
Sue U wrote:So what do you think this war and its end result would look like? Neither Saudi Arabia nor the US is in any position to invade Iran. I'm sure there is precious little the Saudis would love more than for the U.S. to nuke the shit out of Iran, but then you'd still be left with 70-some million pissed off Shiites. Not to mention the complete disruption of oil traffic from the Persian (Arabian?) Gulf. I can't see how this would be anything other than a complete disaster militarily, economically and diplomatically.
I was against it at the time, but bombing Libya was the right thing to do in response to the terrorist attack in Germany. Attacking Afghanistan when the Taliban refused to give up Al Qaeda was the right thing to do. Killing Bin Laden in Pakistan was right. Killing the terrorist leader in Yemen was right.

Post 9-11 I think we need to have learned that state-sponsored terrorism is intolerable. And we need to act like we believe it.

A country is a big fat sitting target and no country should ever feel that they can hire killers and get away with it.

A lot of the Shiites in Iran would welcome anyone who killed Ahmedinejad or the Mullahs.

yrs,
rubato