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Will business-friendly Congress repeal onerous regulation?

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:49 pm
by Scooter
Businesses being strangled by costly, job killing law:
Top U.S. companies including Google, Microsoft, and Starbucks took the unusual step on Thursday of legally documenting their opposition to the Defense of Marriage Act.

A brief filed in court comes from 70 businesses and organizations that want their voice heard on the constitutionality of DOMA, which bans same-sex marriage from being recognized federally and stops couples married in states such as Massachusetts from having their weddings recognized in less accepting places such as Alabama.

The companies paint the law as an overburdening government regulation that should be repealed.

Their brief points out that the Republican leadership in the House of Representatives is defending DOMA in court on the notion that it imposes "a uniform rule" on whose marriage is recognized. "The perspective of the American employer who must implement DOMA is very different," the companies state. "Employers are obliged to treat one employee spouse differently from another, when each is married, and each marriage is equally lawful."

The companies say DOMA "forces" them "to investigate the gender of the spouses of our lawfully married employees and then to single out those employees with a same-sex spouse." For example, HIPPA laws usually consider marriage a "qualifying event" that automatically enrolls a spouse in an employee's health insurance. Companies now spend time and money weeding out any gay employees who get married.

If companies don't want to discriminate, because it hurts their recruiting efforts or they're just opposed to it in principle, then DOMA causes a bunch of "workarounds" that come with wasteful administrative costs of their own.

Companies complain that when a same-sex couple legally marries, it requires them "to maintain two sets of books." That's because the couple is considered married under state law but not married under federal law. "The double entries ripple through human resources, payroll, and benefits administration," they write.

Some of the companies have had to pay consultants to jury-rig systems used to track benefits and taxes so they can accommodate the double records. "These dual regimes have spawned an industry of costly compliance specialists," they complain.

"The burden on the small employer is especially onerous," the companies point out. Small businesses can't afford to hire consultants, and "such burdens, standing alone, might chill a smaller employer from employing an otherwise qualified employee because she happens to be married to a same-sex spouse."
So it's time for all those who keep saying government should get out of the way so businesses can prosper to put up or shut up. Do you really want to ease the regulatory burden on business, or do you support maintaining DOMA and prove yourself a hypocrite that thinks nothing of burdening business in order to uphold your version of morality?

Re: Will business-friendly Congress repeal onerous regulatio

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:55 am
by quaddriver
Im sorta of the mind that most people would be thinking 'unemployment is at what and they are doing what?'

Re: Will business-friendly Congress repeal onerous regulatio

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:34 pm
by rubato
If the US wants to remain competitive we will have to keep up with the countries where homosexuals are treated fairly. Otherwise we will risk losing that fraction of the most talented people who are gay.

yrs,
rubato

Re: Will business-friendly Congress repeal onerous regulatio

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:49 pm
by The Hen
The will be a dearth of Broadway Musicals.

:o

Re: Will business-friendly Congress repeal onerous regulatio

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:47 pm
by dgs49
let's see...less than 2% of the population is gay...a miniscule percentage of the gay population has gotten "married"...huge issue for the private sector.

Political correctness run amok.

What they are spending in legal fees dwarfs any possible administrative costs to administer this matter.

Bullshit.

Re: Will business-friendly Congress repeal onerous regulatio

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:54 pm
by Scooter
So all of these major corporations are lying about this because...? If the cost is as insignificant as you claim, why would they even care? All that is important to a corporation is the bottom line, right?

Regardless of the number of employees involved, it still requires setting up two systems for payroll, two systems for benefits, two systems for tax remittance, in order to satisfy both state and federal law. That means twice the work.

But thanks for proving that all your talk about letting corporations alone to create jobs is nothing but hypocritical hot air.

Re: Will business-friendly Congress repeal onerous regulatio

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:38 am
by Gob
dgs49 wrote:let's see...less than 2% of the population is gay...a miniscule percentage of the gay population has gotten "married"...huge issue for the private sector.

Maybe a greater percentage would get married if it were more widely available as an option.

Re: Will business-friendly Congress repeal onerous regulatio

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:32 pm
by Grim Reaper
dgs49 wrote:What they are spending in legal fees dwarfs any possible administrative costs to administer this matter.
Making homosexual marriage legal would cost less in the long run. But it's cute how short sighted some people can be when it comes to remaining bigoted, it's almost like the two go hand in hand.