TIJUANA, Mexico, — Mexican authorities have unearthed a 600-metre drug smuggling tunnel beneath the U.S. border, the second such find in the same area this month.
The 15-foot-deep tunnel found on Tuesday was similar to another tunnel found on November 16, and contained both lighting and transport carts, indicating the growing technical sophistication of the country’s powerful drug cartels.
“The tunnel was located after we were informed of it by US authorities,” who had found the other end of the passage in nearby San Ysidro, California, Tijuana police chief Ricardo Garduno told AFP.
Security forces who took part in the raid said three tons of marijuana were uncovered inside the tunnel.
The entrance to the tunnel on the Mexican side was found some 100 metres from the local headquarters of the federal police, a military air base and a customs office, according to an AFP reporter.
On November 16 U.S. authorities announced the discovery of a “major” drug smuggling tunnel under the border running some 400 metres and containing electricity and a ventilation system.
And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
They will just dig under it:
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Re: And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
Just wait till we start sneaking over the brder for your healthcare.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
Re: And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
A wall/fence wouldn't be perfect, they've discovered numerous tunnels down in San Diego over the years. But it would still be worth it. Israel's homicide bomber problem is almost zero since they put their fence up. And for some reason, there's a wall around the Whitehouse, it must be for some reason.
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And yet someone was still able to get a clear shot at a window a few days ago...
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True, like I said, it's not perfect.
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Re: And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
Except that once you've spent $10 billion it's a little late when you realize it doesn't work.
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Re: And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
There has been a wall at Tijuana for years - maybe decades.
But the U.S. is very keen to find new superfluous civil works projects. They may seem like a waste of money we don't have, but it is easy to overlook the multiplicative effects of "stimulating" the economy.
Isn't it odd how a strong majority of the U.S. population favors legalization of pot, but it never really gets off the ground? Considering the potential tax benefits, public safety benefits, the blow to organized crime both here and in Mexico, it seems like a "no brainer," but alas...
But the U.S. is very keen to find new superfluous civil works projects. They may seem like a waste of money we don't have, but it is easy to overlook the multiplicative effects of "stimulating" the economy.
Isn't it odd how a strong majority of the U.S. population favors legalization of pot, but it never really gets off the ground? Considering the potential tax benefits, public safety benefits, the blow to organized crime both here and in Mexico, it seems like a "no brainer," but alas...
Re: And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
There's too much money to be made in anti-drug enforcement.
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If legal medical marihuana was supposed to eliminate the drug trade; then why were three tons being smuggled into California?
Re: And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
Your question is based on a false premise.
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"It is clearly the most sophisticated tunnel that we have found in the last five years, perhaps ever," a US police spokeswoman in San Diego said.
A similar tunnel was discovered in the area two weeks ago, adding to dozens that have been found in recent years.
Local media describe Otay Mesa as a busy area containing many warehouses, making it easier for smugglers.
The tunnel is 15ft (4.5m) deep and contains both lighting and transport carts, AFP news agency reports.
The tunnel extends twice as far into the US as it does into Mexico
Mexican security forces found the entrance in a Tijuana warehouse after being alerted to the discovery by the US authorities.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15965437
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Re: And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
Maybe they should be wondering why the wall doesn't have a 100-foot-deep foundation ....
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Re: And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
Right, that would only increase the costs by 100x. And tell the drug gangs that a tunnel 110 feet deep would be clear sailing.Andrew D wrote:Maybe they should be wondering why the wall doesn't have a 100-foot-deep foundation ....
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Re: And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
It would take about 635 feet of tunnel at a 10 degree slope to get down to 110 feet, and I suspect that existing tunnel entrances are at least that far from the wall already.
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Re: And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
from 300 yards away, not 10.Scooter wrote:And yet someone was still able to get a clear shot at a window a few days ago...
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wouldn't they just jack through?Scooter wrote:It would take about 635 feet of tunnel at a 10 degree slope to get down to 110 feet, and I suspect that existing tunnel entrances are at least that far from the wall already.
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is
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Scooter wrote:And yet someone was still able to get a clear shot at a window a few days ago...
It was 'Spray and Pray' ...while Obama wasn't home.
Re: And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
Jack through?????
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Yes.
Apparently a better idea than relying on Stevie Nicks to help you through...
Apparently a better idea than relying on Stevie Nicks to help you through...
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
Re: And people wonder why building a wall would be pointless
It would also require designing and constructing a tunnel to withstand the weight of 110 feet of rock and soil pressing down on it. And it would require design and construction to deal with ventilation issues, water-table issues, and a host of other issues common to mine-tunnel projects.Scooter wrote:It would take about 635 feet of tunnel at a 10 degree slope to get down to 110 feet, and I suspect that existing tunnel entrances are at least that far from the wall already.
Rather more daunting than a 15-foot deep tunnel.
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