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Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:29 pm
by rubato
Even his own party thinks he is a repellant toad.

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Robert Dole:

Dole Goes Nuclear: I have not been critical of Newt Gingrich but it is now time to take a stand before it is too late. If Gingrich is the nominee it will have an adverse impact on Republican candidates running for county, state, and federal offices. Hardly anyone who served with Newt in Congress has endorsed him and that fact speaks for itself. He was a one-man-band who rarely took advice. It was his way or the highway.

Gingrich served as Speaker from 1995 to 1999 and had trouble within his own party. By 1997 a number of House Republican members wanted to throw him out as Speaker. But he hung on until after the 1998 elections when Newt could read the writing on the wall. His mounting ethics problems caused him to resign in early 1999. I know whereof I speak as I helped establish a line of credit of $150,000 to help Newt pay off the fine for his ethics violations. In the end, he paid the fine with money from other sources.

Gingrich had a new idea every minute and most of them were off the wall. He loved picking a fight with President Clinton because he knew this would get the attention of the press. This and a myriad of other specifics like shutting down the government helped to topple Gingrich in 1998.

In my run for the presidency in 1996 the Democrats greeted me with a number of negative TV ads and in every one of them Newt was in the ad. He was very unpopular and I am not only certain that this did not help me, but that it also cost House seats that year. Newt would show up at the campaign headquarters with an empty bucket in his hand — that was a symbol of some sort for him — and I never did know what he was doing or why he was doing it, and I’m not certain he knew either.

The Democrats are spending millions of dollars running negative ads against Romney as they are hoping that Gingrich will be the nominee which could result in a landslide victory for Obama and a crushing defeat for Republicans from the courthouse to the White House. Democrats are not running ads against Gingrich which is further proof they want to derail Governor Romney.

In my opinion if we want to avoid a sweeping victory by Obama in November, Republicans should nominate Governor Romney as our standard bearer. He could win because he has the requisite experience in the public and private sectors. He would be a president in whom we could have confidence and he would make us proud.

Note: not "if we want to win we will nominate Romney". It is "if we want to avoid a landslide victory for Obama and a crushing defeat" we will nominate Romney.
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yrs,
rubato

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:34 pm
by dgs49
Based on his performance last night, Mr. Romney appears to have gotten back on track. I understand he had a new debate coach.

Newt is toast. Moon colony? Are you kidding?

Alles gut.

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:58 pm
by Lord Jim
Moon colony
I'll support the idea, provided Leroy agrees to lead the expedition....

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:25 pm
by dales
Cool flick, I thing N.G. has seen it one too many times.

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Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:06 pm
by Lord Jim
Territorial Governor Of The Moon, Newt Gingrich ...

That works for me...

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:28 pm
by rubato
Proposing bases on the moon and manned trips to mars are how those who know nothing about science reveal themselves to those who do.


But we are talking about people too ignorant to understand the connection between birth control and poverty.


yrs,
rubato

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:41 pm
by Grim Reaper
We used to have an Office of Technology Assessment that would help Congress when it came to scientific information.

Guess who shut it down?

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:52 pm
by dales
Hey, Newt.................BYTE ME! :fu

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Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:41 am
by rubato
Stupid is as stupid does, sir.

yrs,
rubato

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:48 am
by Mr. Duality
Lord Jim wrote:Territorial Governor Of The Moon, Newt Gingrich ...

That works for me...
It seems he has dreams of getting involved with a younger planet.

(Based on a comment by Jon Stewart.)

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:54 am
by dales
rubato wrote:Stupid is as stupid does, sir.

yrs,
rubato
:?:

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:24 am
by Lord Jim
Well the logical assumption Dale would be that he's finally decided to engage in truth in labeling and he's describing 90% of what he posts.

While a moon colony by the end of the decade doesn't seem like much of a priority given the resources required, I have to say though that I have been disappointed by the short shrift Obama has given to the space program, (I'm almost as unhappy about it as I am about Obama's non-energy policy) canceling just about every thing that shows any sort of boldness or imagination. Not building a moon colony by the end of the decade is one thing; not even having our own manned lift vehicle is another.

I'm a firm supporter of a robust space program, and particularly a manned program. Space exploration has shown to provide enormous earth bound benefits and it's also ennobling of the spirit of man; we are an explorer species, and space exploration is an expression of our progress and the outer boundaries of our capabilities. Surely all but the meanest of dullards can see this.

The sort of "thinking" that says, "we can't afford to do anything in space until we solve all our problems here" can always be used as excuse to never do anything grand or great.

We should never listen to those short-sighted defeatists.

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:14 pm
by loCAtek
Regarding those Space Program benefits, think of what we could find in resources, in the asteroids, that would spare the rape of our home planet.

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:29 pm
by Scooter
Just what we need, another arms race (with the accompanying threat of global annihilation) to determine who is going to control mining rights on space objects.

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:44 pm
by dales
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Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:33 pm
by rubato
loCAtek wrote:Regarding those Space Program benefits, think of what we could find in resources, in the asteroids, that would spare the rape of our home planet.

The energy used to get there is much more than we can ever recover in minerals. Just the fuel needed to get into earth orbit is huge per pound of useful payload. Just overcoming the ca 25:1 ratio of fuel to structure to get a 1-stage rocket into orbit is difficult.

No sane person thinks we can extract useful materials from asteroids or other planets and get them back to earth. The environmental costs of extracting and burning the fuel is orders of magnitude greater than any economic benefit.


yrs,
rubato

Re: Bob Dole points out some home truths about "Newtie"

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:05 am
by loCAtek
Okay, gotta blame SF - Science Fiction for that scenario.