Plan B Forum

The trailer includes interviews with Vice President Joe Biden, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and others who describe Obama's response to the economic downturn, health care reform, the bailout of the auto industry and the US raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

The 17-minute documentary will be released on 15th March.

Sheesh, with all that packed into the trailer, I'm suprised the trailer isn't 17 minutes long. How much more could be in the movie?

How much more could be in the movie?

The scenes where he walks on water, raises the dead, turns water into wine, and feeds a multitude with two fish and five loaves of bread, of course...

The 17-minute documentary campaign commercial will be released on 15th March.

Fixed it for you....

Lord Jim wrote: The scenes where he walks on water, raises the dead, turns water into wine, and feeds a multitude with two fish and five loaves of bread, of course...

Converts gays, makes Hillary attractive to Bill, gets Rush to come out as a transvestite, solves the budget deficit,

Lord Jim wrote:Fixed it for you....

Don't blame me, I'm just quoting the BBC.

Many presidents can take credit for the invention of a new political invention or strategy that somehow catches the public's fancy and allows them to achieve political victories in circumstances where their predecessors might have failed.

RR was able to put someone down with a smile, With WJC it was "triangulation." He also perfected what I refer to as "followership," which is the strategy of polling the public to see which way they are going, then jumping in front of the line and claiming to be "leading" it.

Barry is doing something (apparently with some success) that I'm not sure has ever been done before. He "measures" his success by comparing his results to what he claims would have happened if he hadn't intervened. "Even though what I did seemed to make things worse, they would have been even worser if I hadn't acted the way I did."

The most blatant of these strategems was manifested when he said that the unprecedented stimulus funding packages would "create or save" millions of jobs. This is either brilliant or preposterous depending, I suppose, on your level of gullibility, but it has the wonderful benefit of being totally unmeasurable. How can you later challenge his "promise" or claim about the stimulus? How many jobs were "saved"? It's incalculable and unknowable. Indeed, the administration has often thrown out bullshit figures to prove the unprovable claim that the stimulus "saved or created" X million jobs, hoping that voters would accept them.

I gather that this is how he intends to conduct his re-election campaign. "If I hadn't done what I did, things would be even worse." I'm sure the 17-minute propaganda piece will take that tack extensively.

And it might be the perfect response to the charge that, basically, "everything is totally fucked up under your watch." Which is true.

Will he be able to win a second term, basically still blaming everything bad on Bush43?

Are we that stupid and gullible? Certainly most of the people on this board are.

dgs49 wrote:Will he be able to win a second term, basically still blaming everything bad on Bush43?

Are we that stupid and gullible? Certainly most of the people on this board are.

Nixon won a second term. Dubya won a second term.

Were the stupid and gullible residents of this and the previous BBS responsible for that?

Unfortunately (or fortunately - depending on your point of view) Obama will win a second term, not because the majority loves him, but because the majority believes the alternative candidates will make things even worse than they are now.

Told ya, he'd hang it all on 'Gettin' OBL'

It depends on what people want. If they want incomes to go down for 8 years they will elect a Republican. The Republican party has already said they will repeat the exact, and totally disastrous, policies they followed before.


Bush II .. Median income change .... Percentage Change
>>>>>>> $ -1,733 ..................... -3%

Clinton .. Median income change .... Percentage Change
>>>>>>> $ 7,006 ..................... 15%

Bush I .. Median income change .... Percentage Change (4years)
>>>>>>> $ -2,470..................... -5%


Table H-3. Mean Household Income Received by Each Fifth and Top 5 Percent, All Races: 1967 to 2010
(Households as of March of the following year. Income in 2010 CPI-U-RS adjusted dollars (29))


yrs,
rubato

Fewer people are employed today than on the day when Barry took office.

All bullshit aside.

He has done NOTHING to promote private investment. He has done nothing to promote private sector hiring (temporary government construction jobs don't count - and don't add up to much even if they did).

He has wasted more money than any previous administration, regardless of duration. He has done nothing to promote real energy production (see: Gas prices). He has directed his attention to energy projects and initiatives that have proven to be a total flop.

Name a single reason why anyone would vote FOR him in November (as opposed to voting against the R challenger).

Just one good reason, based on his "accomplishments."

This oughtta be good.

Well Dave, having read your views for many years*, I cannot think of a better reason for voting for Obama over a republican than the fact that you oppose him.



* I have said many time that I appreciate and respect the way you post these views and stand up for them.

dgs49 wrote:He has wasted more money than any previous administration, regardless of duration.

Probably because we've dug ourselves into a deep hole, so having a big ladder to get out makes sense.

And of course you're a hypocrite who didn't say a thing when President George W. Bush accumulated a massive debt. Apparently that's just fine and dandy when a Republican does it.

dgs49 wrote:He has done nothing to promote real energy production (see: Gas prices). He has directed his attention to energy projects and initiatives that have proven to be a total flop.

Gas prices are effectively determined by kittens chasing laser pointers.

And you're a pathetic and horrible liar who can't be bothered to do any research into the truth. President Obama has increased drilling in the US during his presidency. So saying he hasn't done anything toward trying to lower the gas prices is completely absurd.

dgs49 wrote:Name a single reason why anyone would vote FOR him in November (as opposed to voting against the R challenger).

Because he's still better than any of the Republican contenders.

How could Bush43 accumulate a "massive" debt when both taxes and spending originate with the HR?

What do you mean by "massive," exactly? Compared to what? Barry and the Dems are accumulating debt in single months that would have been considered "massive" annual deficits a mere 8 years ago.

all increases in energy production since Barry took office have been private. He has done everything possible to reduce drilling and production on public lands.

Would you care to try again to name an accomplishment by Barry that warrants a vote for him? Nothing so far.

dgs49 wrote:How could Bush43 accumulate a "massive" debt when both taxes and spending originate with the HR?
... "

His party controlled both houses and passed the legislation he asked for.

That's how.

And the outcome was bad. Disastrously so.

yrs,
rubato

dgs49 wrote:How could Bush43 accumulate a "massive" debt when both taxes and spending originate with the HR?

He lowered taxes and sent us into a giant and expensive war with Iraq.

Were you in a coma the eight years he was in office?

dgs49 wrote:all increases in energy production since Barry took office have been private. He has done everything possible to reduce drilling and production on public lands.

Your lies are pathetic and transparent. President Obama has increased drilling while in office. Your denial of this is laughable at best.

Try again once you have a slightly firmer grip on reality.