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A nothing that lying about it could turn it into a something

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They always say, it isn't the dirty deed, but the attempt to cover it up, that will lead to the perpetrator's undoing.

One wonders how Romney's credibility will fare in light of his response to revelations of his involvement in a prep school incident where a boy's hair was cut off because he was perceived to be gay. Five of Romney's classmates have independently given consistent versions of what transpired, and yet Romney at first claimed to have no memory of the incident, then admitted to doing a lot of stupid stuff in high school, then bit by bit opened the door wider and wider on the possibility that it actually did. Of course it did happen, and of course he does remember it; it remains to be seen what people think of his attempt to take them for idiots by trying to deny it.
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Cross posted in another thread!!


Presumptive US Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has apologised for school "pranks" after a report he bullied a classmate thought to be gay.

The Washington Post reported that in 1965 Mr Romney held down a younger student and cut off his hair.

Mr Romney said that he did not remember the incident, but apologised for "hijinks and pranks" that "may have gone too far".

A campaign spokeswoman called the report "exaggerated and off-base".

The Post interviewed five former classmates of Mr Romney about his time as a student at the Cranbrook School outside of Detroit, Michigan.

The classmates said Mr Romney objected to a younger student's bleached blond, longer hair.

According to the report the young man, John Lauber, was "perpetually teased for his nonconformity and presumed homosexuality".

"I don't remember that incident," Mr Romney told Fox News during a radio interview.

"I certainly don't believe that I thought the fellow was homosexual. That was the furthest thing from our minds back in the 1960s, so that was not the case."

Mr Lauber died in 2004, according to the Post.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18028394
He "doesn't remember" the time he held a guy down and cut off his hair? Fuck me pink, is he fit for office with such poor memory?

Ohh, and if he doesn't remember that incident, what the fuck went down in the ones he does remember?
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Have to agree Gob, unless he did it so many times that he just can't remember that particular incident/

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Great, a former schoolyard bully who exhibited cruelty to animals as a mature adult and got rich putting regular people out of jobs.

Scooter, what's the news on your single lesbian friends up there? Heck, as an accountant, maybe you can just hook me up with a nice elderly man looking for an intelligent companion in his twilight years - I'm a great housekeeper and cook, and can get certified for basic nursing care, too.
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At this point I'm thinking that if we have too many more years of Conservative rule I am going to claim Italian citizenship and move to Europe.

Or I can hope that Quebecers vote yes in their next separation referendum, so I can live in Montreal and it will be another country.
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Just great.

People like Lord Jim and dsg49 want a President that is a guy who was part of a gang that perpetrated a hate crime against a gay person.

And he can't remember doing it - but thinks that if he had actually done it, he wouldn't have done it just because the kid was gay.

If the Mittster-dude doesn't remember his hate crime, another concern that people should have is that he has a mental defect.

A defect that doesn't allow him to learn from mistakes he can't remember making.

"Oops! Did I do all that I could within my power to make it illegal for gay people to have equal rights to heterosexuals?

Well, If I did attempt to deny gay rights I'm sure it wasn't because those people are gay."

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"Mr. Lauber died in 2004..."

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I'll bet you the poor guy died in a mental facility no longer able to endure the hellish nightmare inflicted by Mitt's homophobic behavior. Mitt probably stole his lunch money, too. Yet ol' Mitt can't remember a thing. It sounds like the selective memory of an overconfident, mean spirited bully to me.

If Mitt somehow defies the odds and gets elected in November I am fearful for the welfare of all the "Log Cabin" Republicans who may be oblivious to the fate that awaits them.
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Many people bullied in youth never really put it behind them, so while your post is obviously facetious on that point, it's very possible that the man was haunted his whole life by the incident - which surely wasn't isolated and didn't come out of the blue.

If Mitt would engage in such a physical violation of another youth, I'd wager it was preceeded by weeks (or months, or years) of verbal bullying.

We all know the type; we all went to school.
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bsg. AMEN TO THAT, SISTER

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Oh, the stories I could tell about the bullying I endured in school... and at home. Each incident remembered as if it happened just yesterday. Through years of understanding I have largely forgiven, however, no matter how much I try I cannot forget. I'd like to think I am a better and stronger person for it but I am not. The ugly scabs are gone. The scars remain.

Do you know that old saying, "God will never give you more than you can handle?" That's absolute bullshit. For some of us he throws everything under the sun... and sits back and laughs. Life, indeed, is unfair.

I truly hope that over the years Mitt Romney had an epiphany regarding his abhorrent behavior, somehow realizing the irreversible damage he may have caused a fellow human being. As the architect for a more humane and efficient national health care program like "ObamaCare", well, maybe he has. A mediocre politician, yes. A good person, maybe. Regardless, he won't be getting my vote in November.
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His magic underpants wiped away the nasty memory.
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By my calculation, correct me if I'm wrong, Magic Underpants Man would have been about 18 yrs old when this happened!

"I don't remember"?!??!?

Fuck off you lying cunt!
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Yes it certainly does seem implausible that one wouldn't remember a thing like this....

Just about as implausible as a guy who worked closely with a minister and listened to that minister's sermons for 10 years, claiming he never heard that minister's publicly expressed racist views....
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Oh yes, overlooking someone else's words is exactly like physically assaulting someone. :roll:

I feel sorry for people who have to lower themselves to voting for this slime.
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My point is, that making implausible claims when confronted with embarrassing information is not unique to Mr. Romney.

It is in fact frequently the first impulse of most politicians.

(And generally it's not a good impulse, because it frequently just draws the story out longer and makes the politician in question look disingenuous...as it did in both these cases.)
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Lord Jim wrote:Yes it certainly does seem implausible that one wouldn't remember a thing like this....

Just about as implausible as a guy who worked closely with a minister and listened to that minister's sermons for 10 years, claiming he never heard that minister's publicly expressed racist views....

Jim, are you channeling Rush? :lol: :shock: ;)
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If you're going to draw the analogy, though, at least draw it accurately. What Obama said was that he hadn't been present to hear a series of comments that were drawn from exactly two sermons given by Wright. Now unless it is completely implausible that a state senator would be in Springfield, rather than his home district, on many Sundays over the course of each year, and there is a witness that saw the Obamas glued into a pew each and every Sunday...
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THAT'S UNCANNY, GOB

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Who would possibly think that that misogynistic, hillbilly heroin addict, still has enough influence with his dwindling, male based, audience to be referenced so accurately? That's as scary as it is humorous.

Well, one thing for sure, Rush Limbaugh is STILL a big, fat, idiot.
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Reflexive lying is a defining characteristic of the totalitarian government of the People Republic of China and all Republican presidential candidates.

Thank yew very much.

There is, in fact, an underlying genetic similarity.

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