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Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:03 pm
by Lord Jim
IRS missing billions in ID theft
By JOSH LEDERMAN | Associated Press – 3 hrs ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Internal Revenue Service may have delivered more than $5 billion in refund checks to identity thieves who filed fraudulent tax returns for 2011, Treasury Department investigators said Thursday.
They estimate another $21 billion could make its way to ID thieves' pockets over the next five years.
The IRS is detecting far fewer fraudulent tax refund claims than actually occur, according to a government audit that warned the widespread problem could undermine public trust in the U.S. tax system. Although the IRS detected about 940,000 fraudulent returns for last year claiming $6.5 billion in refunds, there were potentially another 1.5 million undetected cases of thieves seeking refunds after assuming the identity of a dead person, child or someone else who normally wouldn't file a tax return.
In one example, investigators found a single address in Lansing, Mich., that was used to file 2,137 separate tax returns. The IRS issued more than $3.3 million in refunds to that address. Three addresses in Florida, the epicenter of the identity theft crisis, filed more than 500 returns totaling more than $1 million in refunds for each address.
In another troubling scenario, hundreds of refunds were deposited into the same bank account — a red flag for investigators searching for ID thieves who may be filing for refunds for multiple people.
In one instance, the IRS deposited 590 refunds totaling more than $900,000 into one account.
"We found multiple reasons for the IRS's inability to detect billions of dollars in fraud,"
[Like a computer system incapable of generating a red flag when the the same address passes the 1000 mark for separate tax returns
] J. Russell George, the Treasury Department's inspector general for tax administration, in a statement. "At a time when every dollar counts, these results are extremely troubling."
Topping the list of concerns is the IRS's lack of timely access to third-party information it needs to verify returns and root out fraud.
With so many Americans struggling to pay their bills, the IRS is under immense pressure to process and issue refunds promptly. But taxpayers can start filing their returns in mid-January, while employers and financial institutions don't have to submit withholding and income documents for taxpayers to the IRS until the end of March. That means the IRS often issues refunds long before it can confirm the veracity of what's listed on taxpayer returns.
IRS officials said the growth of identity theft-related fraud is one of its biggest challenges. Already this year, the agency has stopped almost $12 billion in confirmed fraud, it says. And it says its criminal investigators are actively pursuing those who perpetrate fraud.
"If the IRS determines a refund has been issued improperly, we will attempt to recoup the funds," said IRS spokeswoman Michelle Eldridge.
The IRS agreed with the inspector general that Congress should expand the agency's access to resources that could help it fight theft, including the National Directory of New Hires, a database created to help states enforce child support orders. But IRS officials disputed the notion that $21 billion in fraudulent returns could be issued over the next five years, arguing that the estimate didn't take into account the IRS's stepped-up compliance and prevention efforts.
For those who fall victim to identity thieves, the recovery process can be less than smooth. A separate report by the inspector general in May found that the IRS wasn't providing good customer service and proper assistance to victims of ID theft, [Wow, now there's a shock...]increasing the burden for those whose identities are stolen. The Federal Trade Commission has listed identity theft as the No. 1 consumer complaint for the past 12 years.
http://news.yahoo.com/irs-missing-billi ... 07999.html
Re: Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:30 pm
by Scooter
Lord Jim wrote:[Like a computer system incapable of generating a red flag when the the same address passes the 1000 mark for separate tax returns
]
I was thinking the same thing, but then I realized it might not be that simple - there are lots of tax preparers that give their customers cash on the spot (for a cut) and get the refunds assigned to them, in which case there would be scads of refunds being sent to the same address or deposited in the same bank account. That's not to say that such cases shouldn't be flagged for investigation, but sorting out the legitimate cases from the frauds would take a lot of work.
Re: Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:36 am
by Grim Reaper
Well, the IRS would theoretically only need to fully investigate tax preparers once, then just do a quick double check every year to make sure nothing funny happens. Any new addresses that pop up would get a full investigation.
Re: Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:03 pm
by rubato
They don't spend more on tax collection because it is politically unpopular to do so. Even though an additional 1$ spent on collections generates more than 1$ in revenue.
They deliberately 'break' the government so they can then say "look, the government is broken". The game is disingenuous.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:20 pm
by dales
Privatize the IRS.
Re: Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:24 pm
by Scooter
Yeah, I'm definitely itching to give a private contractor the power to seize my house and other assets while it takes its sweet time fixing its own mistakes.
Re: Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:40 pm
by dales
Trying to remove tongue planted firmly within cheek.

Re: Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:37 pm
by Lord Jim
They don't spend more on tax collection because it is politically unpopular to do so. Even though an additional 1$ spent on collections generates more than 1$ in revenue.
They deliberately 'break' the government so they can then say "look, the government is broken". The game is disingenuous.
yrs,
rubato
NOTE TO ADMINS:
I'm assuming rube must have inadvertently posted this in the wrong thread, since obviously it doesn't remotely relate to the topic. Perhaps one of you could contact him and ask him what thread it was actually supposed to be posted in and then move it there for him.
Thanks.
Re: Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:25 pm
by dgs49
As a point of comparison, my wife works in the Anti-Money Laundering area in a large bank. The regulators have no hesitation whatsoever demanding that safeguards be put into place that will capture EVERY conceivable pattern of deposits or withdrawals that might indicate illegal activity. Then, the bank has to investigate to get from the customer the source of funds, what is being done with it, and so on. It is a huge pain in the ass.
And yet the IRS seems to be lacking even the most rudimentary screening for "red flags," that - it would seem - could be monitored without a hell of a lot of trouble.
Re: Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:39 pm
by Scooter
In fairness, it doesn't actually say that the multiple payments to the same address/bank account were not flagged, nor is there any evidence that any of them were actually fraudulent. The primary issue looks like an inability to quickly verify the information in returns with that provided by third parties. And it is pretty stupid that employers, etc. don't have to file their information until the end of March with a tax filing deadline of April 15, and that people can actually file their returns without having first received those slips from employers, banks, etc.
Re: Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:52 pm
by rubato
Generally I have all the relevant info. by the first week of February.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:37 am
by Econoline
Me too. I always thought that employers, banks, etc. had to have this info filed by midnight January 31.
Re: Your Tax Collectors At Work
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:19 am
by Scooter
Perhaps it's a lag between when the slips go to employees, etc. and when the corresponding copies/reports have to be filed with the IRS. But still, two months...? Here the deadline is end of February for both issuing slips and reporting to the tax dept, and that's with an April 30 tax filing deadline. I've never heard of it being an issue here that there was a big potential for tax fraud because of an inability to verify what is being reported on information slips that are filed with the government as a matter of routine.