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Charlie Christ rejects the Repuglican insanity.

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:04 pm
by rubato
Is it the complete mendacity of their public pronouncements? The total whoring?


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Crist endorses Obama (Updated)

By MAGGIE HABERMAN |
8/26/12 12:28 AM EDT

His hug of President Obama got him in trouble during his senate run as a Republican, and now former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist is making the most of it, endorsing the president in a Tampa Bay Times op-ed in which he excoriates his own former party, and further stokes the suspicion on both sides that he is setting himself up for a future run:

As Republicans gather in Tampa to nominate Mitt Romney, Americans can expect to hear tales of how President Obama has failed to work with their party or turn the economy around.

But an element of their party has pitched so far to the extreme right on issues important to women, immigrants, seniors and students that they've proven incapable of governing for the people. Look no further than the inclusion of the Akin amendment in the Republican Party platform, which bans abortion, even for rape victims.

The truth is that the party has failed to demonstrate the kind of leadership or seriousness voters deserve.

Pundits looking to reduce something as big as a statewide election to a single photograph have blamed the result of my 2010 campaign for U.S. Senate on my greeting of President Obama. I didn't stand with our president because of what it could mean politically; I did it because uniting to recover from the worst financial crisis of our lifetimes was more important than party affiliation. I stood with our nation's leader because it was right for my state.

President Obama has a strong record of doing what is best for America and Florida, and he built it by spending more time worrying about what his decisions would mean for the people than for his political fortunes. That's what makes him the right leader for our times, and that's why I'm proud to stand with him today.

Crist, now a registered independent, makes the case that Chicago has pressed on just how dire the situation was almost four years ago when the president took office. He also gets a Todd Akin reference in there, for all the current points Democrats are using to frame Mitt Romney.

What's more interesting about this move, which is not quite a shock, is the frequent and ongoing rumors about Crist running for governor again, only as a Democrat. He doesn't make any revelations about his own plans here, but if Obama wins Florida, this would be a handy thing for Crist, whose original consulting team is with Romney, to point to having done - and supporting the Democratic president is sort of a half-measure toward announcing as one himself.

The downside for Crist is, much like the start of the convention, this will not get the pop it might have without the storm heading toward Florida.

Alex has the disgusted response from Republican Party of Florida Chairman Lenny Curry to an "ambitious" Crist here. And still more here from the RPOF, including a roster of times when Crist disagreed with and/or criticized Obama, arguing this is a political calculus as opposed to a principled moved.

* This post has been updated
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yrs,
rubato

Re: Charlie Christ rejects the Repuglican insanity.

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:59 pm
by Sean
Charlie Christ rejects the Repuglican insanity.
Jesus' brother?

Re: Charlie Christ rejects the Repuglican insanity.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:35 am
by dgs49
Well, let's see...an op-ed piece by a person named "Maggie." Profundity guaranteed.

"But an element of their party has pitched so far to the extreme right on issues important to women, immigrants, seniors and students that they've proven incapable of governing for the people."

Let us consider, for a moment, the "extreme right" positions of which she complains:

(1) Women: No taxpayer funded abortions or BC pills. I find it difficult to understand why we do not have mass female suicides on American streets. These positions are so extreme that Hannibal Lecter would positive be a wimp in this crowd.

(2) Immigrants: Enforce the laws of the United States, as written. Jesus, the brutality! It is no wonder the incoming turnstiles at our borders are covered with spider webs. Why would ANYONE want to come here?

(3) Seniors: Acknowledge that Medicare and SS are rapidly going bankrupt; propose alternative plans for people 54 years old and younger. Is it possible Maggie was referring to "seniors" in high school? Not sure.

(4) Students: Rather a broad category here, but some insanely extreme Republicans are actually proposing that the Federal [fucking] Government ought not be financing the payroll costs of K-12 teachers in the hinterlands. How DARE those bastards! And they are probably going to be spouting something about the [fucking] CONSTITUTION, saying that it's not the Federal Taxpayers' job to pay for local teachers, or something. Or maybe it's college students. Those damned Republicans want to cut off loans for masters degrees in ETHNIC STUDIES, or some shit like that.

The bastards!

I"m not really sure what to make of the statement that "they" have proven themselves to be incapable of governing for the people. I have to admit I don't even know that [the fuck] that is supposed to mean. But it must profound.

Maggie.

Right.

Re: Charlie Christ rejects the Repuglican insanity.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:05 am
by Grim Reaper
dgs49 wrote: Well, let's see...an op-ed piece by a person named "Maggie." Profundity guaranteed.
It's cute how weak your argument is if you have to start it off by attacking the name of a person. Shows real strong character on your part to lead off with such a powerful attack.

1. Birth control and abortions for those who qualify ends up costing less than having to support the unwanted children that would have been born. I guess you don't like doing preventative maintenance. Just buy a new car every time your current one breaks down. But people don't like thinking more than a couple months down the line, let alone decades from now.

2. It isn't just about enforcing the law, but the steps people have gone beyond in enforcing the law. You can be stopped in Arizona for nothing more than your skin color.

3. Too bad the alternatives suggested by the Republican Party aren't really alternatives but ways to make things worse. Getting the cost of healthcare under control would do a lot of good in extending SS and Medicare.

4. The hinterlands? Let me guess, any place you can't see out your window. And of course the people who want to cut off loans are generally the people who benefited from them in the first place. Rather cowardly tactic.

Re: Charlie Christ rejects the Repuglican insanity.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:52 am
by Econoline
The way rubato posted that was, as usual, a bit confusing, unless you followed the link.

Just to make it clear, the beginning and end of the piece were an op-ed piece by Maggie Haberman (and just what is wrong with the name "Maggie" anyway?), while the middle part (from "As Republicans gather..." to "...stand with him today") was a quote from an op-ed by former Florida Governor Charlie Crist in the Tampa Bay Times.

Here is the entire Crist op-ed:
Former Gov. Charlie Crist: Here's why I'm backing Barack Obama

By Charlie Crist, Special to the Times
In Print: Sunday, August 26, 2012


I’ve studied, admired and gotten to know a lot of leaders in my life. Across Florida, in Washington and around the country, I've watched the failure of those who favor extreme rhetoric over sensible compromise, and I've seen how those who never lose sight of solutions sow the greatest successes.

As America prepares to pick our president for the next four years — and as Florida prepares once again to play a decisive role — I'm confident that President Barack Obama is the right leader for our state and the nation. I applaud and share his vision of a future built by a strong and confident middle class in an economy that gives us the opportunity to reap prosperity through hard work and personal responsibility. It is a vision of the future proven right by our history.

We often remind ourselves to learn the lessons of the past, lest we risk repeating its mistakes. Yet nearly as often, our short-term memory fails us. Many have already forgotten how deep and daunting our shared crisis was in the winter of 2009, as President Obama was inaugurated. It was no ordinary challenge, and the president served as the nation's calm through a historically turbulent storm.

The president's response was swift, smart and farsighted. He kept his compass pointed due north and relentlessly focused on saving jobs, creating more and helping the many who felt trapped beneath the house of cards that had collapsed upon them.

He knew we had to get people back to work as quickly as possible — but he also knew that the value of a recovery lies in its durability. Short-term healing had to be paired with an economy that would stay healthy over the long run. And he knew that happens best by investing in the right places.

President Obama invested in our children's schools because he believes a good education is a necessity, not a luxury, if we're going to create an economy built to last. He supported more than 400,000 K-12 teachers' jobs, and he is making college more affordable and making student loans, like the ones he took out, easier to pay back.

He invested in our runways, railways and roads. President Obama knows a reliable infrastructure that helps move people to work and helps businesses move goods to market is a foundation of growth.

And the president invested in our retirement security by strengthening Medicare. The $716 billion in savings his opponents decry today extended the life of the program by nearly a decade and are making sure taxpayer dollars aren't wasted in excessive payments to insurance companies or fraud and abuse. His opponents would end the Medicare guarantee by creating a voucher that would raise seniors' costs by thousands of dollars and bankrupt the program.

We have more work to do, more investments to make and more waste to cut. But only one candidate in this race has proven a willingness to navigate a realistic path to prosperity.

As Republicans gather in Tampa to nominate Mitt Romney, Americans can expect to hear tales of how President Obama has failed to work with their party or turn the economy around.

But an element of their party has pitched so far to the extreme right on issues important to women, immigrants, seniors and students that they've proven incapable of governing for the people. Look no further than the inclusion of the Akin amendment in the Republican Party platform, which bans abortion, even for rape victims.

The truth is that the party has failed to demonstrate the kind of leadership or seriousness voters deserve.

Pundits looking to reduce something as big as a statewide election to a single photograph have blamed the result of my 2010 campaign for U.S. Senate on my greeting of President Obama. I didn't stand with our president because of what it could mean politically; I did it because uniting to recover from the worst financial crisis of our lifetimes was more important than party affiliation. I stood with our nation's leader because it was right for my state.

President Obama has a strong record of doing what is best for America and Florida, and he built it by spending more time worrying about what his decisions would mean for the people than for his political fortunes. That's what makes him the right leader for our times, and that's why I'm proud to stand with him today.

Charlie Crist is the former Republican governor of Florida and previously was elected as a state senator, education commissioner and attorney general. He currently is registered as no party affiliation. Crist wrote this column exclusively for the Tampa Bay Times.
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Re: Charlie Christ rejects the Repuglican insanity.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:47 am
by Scooter
dgs49 wrote:Let us consider, for a moment, the "extreme right" positions of which she complains:

(1) Women: No taxpayer funded abortions
You do realize that the RNC, as it has done since 2004, has adopted a party platform calling for a constitutional amendment banning abortion that provides for absolutely no exceptions, right? Where does this "Republicans are perfectly fine with women having abortions so long as government doesn't pay for it" bullshit come from? The Republican Party wants to ban ALL abortions. No exceptions to save the life of the mother, if she is raped or if a 10 year old is impregnated by her father.

How fucking clueless can you be?

Re: Charlie Christ rejects the Repuglican insanity.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:58 pm
by Econoline
BTW...is "Charlie" a more credible name than "Maggie"? Jes' wonderin' ;)

Re: Charlie Christ rejects the Repuglican insanity.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:06 pm
by Long Run
Is it news that politicians, based on principle or calculation or both, change who they support?: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... -john-fund
Artur Davis’s Conversion
The former Democratic congressman is a threat to his old party.

Re: Charlie Christ rejects the Repuglican insanity.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:19 am
by rubato
Econoline wrote:The way rubato posted that was, as usual, a bit confusing, unless you followed the link. ... "
Which I provided. Thinking that even a small minority of people might care about the truth.

Thanks for the endorsement.

yrs,
rubato