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Why work when I can get £42,000 in benefits a year AND drive a Mercedes?

By Paul Sims
Last updated at 12:02 AM on 13th April 2010


The Davey family's £815-a-week state handouts pay for a four-bedroom home, top-of-the-range mod cons and two vehicles including a Mercedes people carrier.

Father-of-seven Peter gave up work because he could make more living on benefits.

Yet he and his wife Claire are still not happy with their lot.

With an eighth child on the way, they are demanding a bigger house, courtesy of the taxpayer.

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It's really hard,' said Mrs Davey, 29, who is seven months' pregnant. 'We can't afford holidays and I don't want my kids living on a council estate and struggling like I have.

'The price of living is going up but benefits are going down. My carer's allowance is only going up by 80p this year and petrol is so expensive now, I'm worried how we'll cope.

'We're still waiting for somewhere bigger.'

Mrs Davey has never had a full-time job while her 35-year-old husband gave up his post in administration nine years ago after realising they would be better off living on the state.

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At their semi on the Isle of Anglesey, the family have a 42in flatscreen television in the living room with Sky TV at £50 a month, a Wii games console, three Nintendo DS machines and a computer - not to mention four mobile phones.

With their income of more than £42,000 a year, they run an 11-seater minibus and the seven-seat automatic Mercedes.

But according to the Daveys they have nothing to be thankful for.

'It doesn't bother me that taxpayers are paying for me to have a large family,' added Mrs Davey.

'We couldn't afford to care for our children without benefits, but as long as they have everything they need, I don't think I'm selfish.

'Most of the parents at our kids' school are on benefits.'

She added: 'I don't feel bad about being subsidised by people who are working. I'm just working with the system that's there.

'If the government wants to give me money, I'm happy to take it. We get what we're entitled to. I don't put in anything because I don't pay taxes, but if I could work I would.'

The couple met in a pub 13 years ago. A year later, at the age of 17, Mrs Davey gave birth to Jessica, now 12.

She was followed by Jade, ten, Jamie-Anne, eight, Harriet, six, Adele, four, the couple's only son Tie, three, and Mercedes, two.

'It cost too much to carrying on working as we were actually better off unemployed,' said Mr Davey.

In addition to income support, housing benefit, child tax credits and a council tax discount, the couple receive carer's allowance and disability living allowance for Tie, who suffers from a severe skin disorder.

Despite filing for bankruptcy 18 months ago after racking up £20,000 of debt on mail order catalogues they still insist on splashing out on four presents per child at birthdays and last Christmas spent £2,000 on gifts alone.

'Santa is always generous in our house,' said Mrs Davey, who once applied to join the police but was turned down.

She insists her husband would do any job 'as long as we could still afford the lifestyle we have now'.

Mrs Davey, who spends £160 a week at Tesco, says she does not intend to stop at eight children. Her target is 14.

And she adds: 'I've always wanted a big family - no one can tell me how many kids I can have whether I'm working or not.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0kwG2Xi45

£815-a-week = $1,251.13 US = $1,351.24 AU = $1,256.25 CA
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Doing her bit to keep the shallow end of the gene pool filled? ;)
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Do they get an additional disability allowance for being ginger?
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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Geez, looks like the one on her lap recently took quite a tumble. She's too busy eating bon-bons and watchings soaps to mind him, I gather.

Am I going to hell for that?
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You'd have thought they would have stopped after one ginge, not inflict gingerhood on a whole swarm of brats. :arg
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What, precisely, is the problem with red heads?

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they have no soul
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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They make a lovely noise if you slap them.
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...and they dissolve in sunlight.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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bigskygal wrote:Geez, looks like the one on her lap recently took quite a tumble. She's too busy eating bon-bons and watchings soaps to mind him, I gather.

Am I going to hell for that?
Presumably thats the one with the rare skin disorder.
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Wow - when I saw the title I thought you were referring to UK MPs expenses ...
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Now that was an eye opener stoat (welcome btw!)

For the non-Brits here..

The United Kingdom Parliamentary expenses scandal is a major political scandal triggered by the unauthorised publication in 2009 of expense claims made by members of the United Kingdom Parliament over several years. Public outrage was caused by disclosure of widespread actual and alleged misuse of the permitted allowances and expenses claimed by Members of Parliament (MPs), following failed attempts by parliament to prevent disclosure under Freedom of Information legislation. The scandal aroused widespread anger among the UK public against MPs and a loss of confidence in politics. It resulted in a large number of resignations, sackings, de-selections and retirement announcements, together with public apologies and the repayment of expenses. It also created pressure for political reform extending well beyond the issue of expenses and led to the Parliament elected in 2005 being referred to as the 'Rotten Parliament'.

Cabinet and Ministerial resignations

* Shahid Malik stepped down as justice minister on 15 May to allow the prime minister's independent adviser on ministerial interests, Sir Philip Mawer, to investigate his financial arrangements. The investigation covered allegations that Malik had benefited from a preferential rent that he had failed to declare in the ministerial register; it did not relate to his expenses claims. On 9 June, Malik rejoined the government as a junior communities minister after being cleared of breaching the ministerial code.
* Jacqui Smith announced that she would step down as Home Secretary after the European elections, but would contest her seat at the next election.
* Hazel Blears announced on 3 June that she would step down as Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government.
* Tony McNulty resigned from his position as Minister for Employment during the cabinet reshuffle on 5 June 2009.
* Geoff Hoon left his position as Secretary of State for Transport during the cabinet reshuffle on 5 June 2009, in order for him to spend more time on European and international issues with him being considered a possible candidate as the next British member of the European Commission.
* Kitty Ussher resigned as Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury on 17 June, after only 8 days in the position, following details of avoiding capital gains tax being published.

[edit] Labour backbenchers

The Labour Party formed a three-person panel of its National Executive Committee (NEC) in order to investigate some of its MPs who were referred to it over expenses allegations, which quickly became known as the "Star Chamber" (a reference to the court of the same name employed by English monarchs to dispense summary justice in the 16th and 17th centuries).Individual cases (in alphabetical order) include:

* Ben Chapman announced on 21 May 2009 that he would stand down at the next election, while maintaining that he had done nothing wrong; he said he would resign because the story in the Daily Telegraph had been hurtful to his family, friends and local party members. He was the first Labour MP who announced he would stand down.
* David Chaytor announced that he would not stand for re-election, and has also been barred from standing for Labour at the next general election.[128] He has been charged with three alleged offences under section 17 of the Theft Act 1968 ("false accounting").
* Harry Cohen announced he would not stand for re-election. He said the strain caused by the criticism over his expenses, and the formal investigation into his claims, were the main factors behind his departure.
* Jim Devine was deselected on 16 June following a disciplinary hearing by the Labour party "star chamber". He has been charged with two alleged offences under section 17 of the Theft Act 1968 ("false accounting").
* Ian Gibson was also barred from representing Labour at the next general election. He was said to be "deeply disappointed" On 5 June, Gibson announced his resignation as an MP, forcing a by-election to be held in his Norwich North constituency on 23 July 2009, which Labour went on to lose to the Conservatives.[133]
* Margaret Moran decided not to contest the next election, and has also been barred from standing for Labour at the next general election
* Elliot Morley announced on 29 May that he would not stand for re-election, and has also been barred from standing for Labour at the next general election by the NEC's "star chamber". He has been charged with two alleged offences under section 17 of the Theft Act 1968 ("false accounting")

Conservatives

* On 14 May, Andrew MacKay, the Conservative MP for Bracknell, resigned as Parliamentary aide to David Cameron over what he described as "unacceptable" expenses claims made by him. Subsequently he decided to stand down at the next Bracknell parliamentary election. His wife, Julie Kirkbride who represents Bromsgrove, decided on 28 May 2009 that she too would not stand at the next general election.
* Douglas Hogg announced on 19 May that he would retire from Parliament at the next general election.
* Anthony Steen announced on 20 May that he would retire from Parliament at the next general election.
* Sir Peter Viggers announced on 20 May that he would retire from Parliament at the next general election.
* Husband and wife Conservative backbenchers Sir Nicholas and Lady Ann Winterton announced their intention to stand down at the next election.
* Christopher Fraser stated he would stand down to "care for his ill wife".
* Ian Taylor announced he would retire at the next general election. He had been claiming the maximum allowed for a second home allowance for a London home for four years between 2003 and 2008, even though his main residence was in Guildford – 40 minutes from Westminister.

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The sort of thing they claimed for
10 Lord Mandelson

The business secretary was paid £1,800 in gardening costs in 2004/05, exceeding the £1,000-a-year total by £800.

9 Michael Ancram

Conservative MP for Devizes

The Tory grandee wrongly claimed £171.08 for servicing a swimming pool boiler and for a boiler in a cottage attached to his second home.

8 John Redwood

Conservative MP for Wokingham

The former Conservative leadership challenger was paid £112 in March 2005 for reseeding his lawn.

7 Alistair Darling

The chancellor claimed £1,104 for a chest of drawers in February 2007 - £554 over the guideline price.

6 Dr Roger Berry

Labour MP for Kingswood

Among the litany of exuberant household claims by the MP were a washer/dryer, a dishwasher, a lamp table and two bedside cabinets.

5 James Arbuthnot

Conservative MP for North East Hampshire

The former chair of the defence select committee claimed £150 for garden compost over four months in 2008.

4 Bob Ainsworth

The defence secretary wrongly claimed £575 for an antique Welsh dresser in February 2007 - antiques are not available under Green Book rules.

3 Iris Robinson

The former DUP MP, who stood down amid controversy over her financial dealings and affair with her then 19-year-old lover in 2008, was paid £1,644.90 in January 2006 for the cost of a bed, exceeding the guideline price by £544.90.

2 Anthony Steen

Conservative MP for Totnes

He of the infamous "I have a very, very large house" jealousy rant last year claimed £184.49 for skip hire, 23 garden plants and... a flagpole rope. All part of £10,252.22 in gardening claims from the MP whose house looks like Balmoral.

1 Sir Gerald Kaufman

Labour MP for Manchester Gorton

Sir Gerald was paid £240.95 in 2006/07 for two Waterford grapefruit bowls, purchased as replacements for breakage.
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Here's another bunch...
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Their loud and drunken behaviour makes the lives of their neighbours a misery - and it is all being funded by state handouts of £20,000 a year. ($30,201 US/Can or $33,301 Au.)

Residents are petitioning to have Jane and Lee Houghton, their five youngest children and a grandson evicted.

But with a new bathroom and kitchen on its way, paid for by the council, and a house filled with numerous games consoles, computers and TVs they have no intention of moving.

And Mr Houghton yesterday insisted they need more money.

The 42-year-old is paid £150 a month disability allowance because he has a 'personality disorder' which makes him 'kick off in crowds'. He has not worked since 1999 and says drinking alcohol helps him cope with his condition.

He has been threatened with an Asbo for violent behaviour as well as being drunk and disorderly and has 24 previous convictions.

The comfortable lifestyle of the Houghton family is funded by benefits including £640 income support, £212 carer's allowance a month as well as Mr Houghton's £150 disability allowance.

Their four-bedroom semi- detached house in Crawley, West Sussex, is paid for by housing benefit.

The Houghtons boast about spending £1,000 on each of their children at Christmas. They have seven children and their eldest daughter, Emma, has her own council home.

Mrs Houghton told Closer magazine: 'I only get carer's allowance because my 16-year- old daughter Chelsea has ADHD.

'We get disability allowance for Lee too because of his personality disorder, but we should get more.

'They've even stopped giving me child benefit for Chelsea because she's a mum now - yet they won't give her a council house until she's 18 - it's so unfair!'

She added: 'We only get £150 a month disability allowance for Lee, which isn't enough. His personality disorder makes him really moody so he should get more.'

The couple have been together since Mr Houghton was 17 and his wife was 14. They had their first child Lee, now aged 23, a year later, followed by Emma, 20,

James, 18, Chelsea Ann Stamford Bridge, 16 - named after Mr Houghton's favourite football team and their home ground - Joanne, 14, Jack, ten, and Summer, two.

They share their home with their five youngest children and Chelsea's son Dion, ten months.

Emma lives with three-year- old daughter Chanelle in her own council home. Their only child with a job is eldest son Lee, who works as a cleaner.

'We use our money to spoil our kids - they've got everything,' said Mrs Houghton. 'We've got a computer and a laptop, four TVs, two Xboxes, three DVD players and we've all got mobile phones.'

The Houghtons moved to their current home in 2001 after being evicted from their previous house for failing to pay the rent, despite receiving housing benefit which covered it.

They freely admit they 'did it on purpose' as they wanted a new home.

Mrs Houghton said: 'We made up some b******t about Lee chucking me out as we knew if we played the game I'd get another house.' Since

moving in, the family has made the lives of their neighbours hell, blasting out loud music from their home, while Mr Houghton drunkenly falls over in the street and rides his motorbike on the pavement.

His previous convictions are mainly for drink-related offences, such as swearing at police officers and shouting abuse at people in the street.

But he insists it is his family who are being picked on.

'We've had enough of being branded thugs. We're a good family,' said Mr Houghton.

'The old woman opposite us was always watching my kids out of her window and moaning about them being loud. About ten of our neighbours signed her petition.'

He added: 'Drinking helps me cope with my personality disorder. I start with a bottle of Jack Daniels then have a few cans of cider. By the afternoon I can hardly walk.'

'If people want to work, good for them. I would if I could, but I'm too ill.'

A former neighbour described Mr Houghton as a 'nasty bully'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0n6L72HPp
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Theres another high proportion of gingers.

Are we seeing a benefits trend here? Perhaps rangas ought to be looked at more closely if they are on benefits.
Bah!

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All the hardworking in England should emigrate and leave the system sucking tossers to support the crown and watch what happens next.

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What I find truely amazing is the way they seem proud of the way they live and are able to complain and demand more. :shrug :? :o :shock:
I expect to go straight to hell...........at least I won't have to spend time making new friends.

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There is a definite culture of this way of life in the UK, which has grown stronger over the past two decades.

There is little or no shame attached to it.

Which is why the plug should be pulled on the parasites.
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An asylum seeker bought three homes and sent her son to a fee-paying school by illegally claiming more than £700,000 in benefits, a court heard.

Mahira Rustam Al-Azawi, 49, used a series of false identities to milk Britain's lax benefit system over eight years.
Although she never worked, she was able to purchase three properties - two of which she rented out - worth in excess of £1million.

Her 18-year-old son was educated at Colfe's School, in South-East London, where fees are currently £4,164 a term.
The fraud was uncovered only when Al-Azawi, from Iraq, successfully applied for a student loan to study civil engineering at Greenwich University.

When police raided her £800,000 detached home in Bromley, they found an 'Aladdin's cave' of false documents, including a selection of passports, identity papers and driving licences. She had converted the garage into an office and described herself to neighbours as an 'internet entrepreneur'.

During her trial at Croydon Crown Court, it emerged that she had claimed for income support, housing and council tax benefits in her own name, as well as those of her cousin and mother. She also obtained two mortgages by claiming she was a self-employed businesswoman.

Judge Stephen Waller jailed Al-Azawi for three years after she was found guilty of 13 offences of benefit fraud, forgery and theft.

Critics say the case highlights the welfare profligacy that grew unchecked under Labour. The new Government has promised to crack down on Britain's 'out of control' benefits bill. During last week's emergency Budget, George Osborne announced that he would be taking tough decisions on welfare spending in an effort to save £4billion a year.

The court heard that Al-Azawi first came to Britain as a student, and went back to Iraq once she graduated. She later returned to Britain to claim asylum, and was given income support and housed by Lambeth council in south London.

She travelled to Ireland for a brief period and claimed asylum under a different name, and was also given Irish nationality, as was her son. In 1999, while still living in her Lambeth council home, she bought a property in Bromley. Four years later, she purchased her council residence under the right-to-buy scheme, and in 2005 she added another Bromley home to her growing portfolio.



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Three fucking years! Then she gets out and starts all over again...
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Gob wrote:There is a definite culture of this way of life in the UK, which has grown stronger over the past two decades.

There is little or no shame attached to it.

Which is why the plug should be pulled on the parasites.

Cut the bennies, NOW!

Throw them BODILY out of their housing.

Cut off their source of food (oxygen and sunlight if possble)

Norplant 'em all so they can't breed.

Let their genetic lineage become extinct.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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