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Anyone Had Enough Hope And Change?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:41 am
by dales
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09 ... udy-shows/

Not that I think Mr. Magic Underpants could do any better. I'm just sick of BO crowing about how great things are under his regime.


Median household incomes have fallen 8.2 percent since President Obama took office and continue to drop despite the official end of the recession, a new study shows.

Data compiled by Sentier Research found that since the economic recovery technically began in June 2009, median household income has dropped 5.7 percent. As of August, that median income was $50,678 -- also down 1.1 percent from the month prior.

And since Obama took office in January 2009, the median income has fallen 8.2 percent, from $55,198 to its present figure.

"The August decline in real median annual household income is indicative of a struggling economy," Sentier said in its report.

"Even though we are technically in an economic recovery, real median annual household income is having a difficult time maintaining its present level, much less 'recovering.'"

The figures continue to paint a dim portrait of the nation's post-recession economic rebound, and are sure to factor into the robust economic debate on the campaign trail.

At a rally in Westerville, Ohio, on Wednesday, Mitt Romney challenged protesters at the site, asking them if they really wanted "four more years" of trillion-dollar deficits and declining take-home pay.

Obama continues to hold onto a lead in several swing state polls, though. A poll Wednesday from Quinnipiac University/CBS News/New York Times showed Obama leading in Ohio by 10 points even as roughly half the voters surveyed listed the economy as their most important issue.

The nation's unemployment rate has dropped from its peak at more than 10 percent to 8.1 percent in August.

But the drop belies persistent problems in the economy. Many are leaving the workforce or settling for part-time work -- the latter of which helps explain why unemployment rates are going down while median income falls. Sentier noted in its study that changes in hourly earnings and hours worked affects the household income level.

According to the study, the average number of hours per week worked in August was 34.4 -- slightly below the 34.6 hour average in December 2007.

The income figures, which are based on Census data, follow a Census report showing the poverty rate in 2011 at 15 percent. The number of people in poverty last year was 46.2 million, up from 37.3 million in 2007 before the start of the recession. The poverty line for a family of four was defined by the Census in 2011 as a household salary of just over $23,000.

The household income level has not been declining every month. Sentier's report showed several monthly increases in late 2011, followed by another drop at the beginning of 2012.


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Re: Anyone Had Enough Hope And Change?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:39 am
by rubato
Republican actions. Republican effects.

2001 to 2008 is the first period of two presidential terms when median income went down since the great depression.

And that is before the total collapse engineered by their policies really took effect and drove us into "The Great Recession".

Only a stupid person blames Obama for their actions.

yrs,
rubato

Re: Anyone Had Enough Hope And Change?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:39 pm
by dgs49
I had the dubious pleasure of listening to Barry's latest campaign commercial - all two minutes of it - yesterday.

Summary: Things really sucked when I got elected last time. In the future I intend to do all sorts of wonderful things.

The one thing missing was the listing of his accomplishments during his first term - something that for anyone else running for RE-election would be mandatory. But since he hasn't accomplished anything positive, the omission is understandable.

How could anyone vote for this guy again?

Jesus.

dgs49. YOU ASK...

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:52 am
by RayThom
... How could anyone vote for this guy (Obama) again?

I'm not sure how you cast your vote in your state but in my "swing state" of Pennsylvania -- where Obama has a 55 percent to 41 percent lead as of today -- we sign in at the polling station desk and then walk over to the Dibold Accuvote-TSX voting system. Once inside there is a touch screen with all the candidates names on it. As I did in 2008 I touched the pad for Obama and the other Democrats running for the US House and Senate. That's how I plan to vote for Obama again... pretty simple, at least for me.

So, how do you vote again for your candidates? Regardless, in the early morning hours of 11/07/12 the final vote tally will look like this: 53% for Obama, 44% for Romney.

Re: Anyone Had Enough Hope And Change?

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:04 am
by The Hen
What is the opposite of Hope and Chane?

Despair and Inertia?

Re: Anyone Had Enough Hope And Change?

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:30 am
by MajGenl.Meade
The Hen wrote:What is the opposite of Hope and Chane?

Despair and Inertia?
No - staying single

Re: Anyone Had Enough Hope And Change?

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:38 pm
by dales
rubato wrote:
Only a stupid person blames Obama for their actions.

yrs,
rubato
Huh? :shrug

Re: Anyone Had Enough Hope And Change?

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:13 pm
by rubato
Jan 2009

"worst job loss in 34 years"
598,000 jobs lost
BushCo, Mitty/Ryan have promised more of the same policies which did this.

Aug 2012

96,000 jobs gained.
Obama

You can have this or you can have that.


yrs,
rubato

Re: Anyone Had Enough Hope And Change?

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:15 pm
by rubato
dales wrote:
rubato wrote:
Only a stupid person blames Obama for their actions.

yrs,
rubato
Huh? :shrug

Reading is easier if you can recall something from 4 lines back in the text:


"Republican actions. Republican effects."

NOW KEEP IN MIND...

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:17 pm
by RayThom
... polls are just that -- polls -- so don't get your panties in a twist if these statistics don't align with your hope for change. Remember, polls never amount to shit in the final analysis, not one poll has ever been a predictor for a winner or loser. Plus, this poll is already five (5) days old so it's even less indicative of the voters true leanings. I wouldn't be surprised to find Romney well ahead in every poll within the next week or so. Let's face it, the Romney/Ryan ticket is not just a team but a political Electrolux, sucking up voters at whatever venue they plug into.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575 ... 3&tag=page

(NB. Keep in mind the Quinnipiac University/New York Times/CBS Poll is run by Liberals so all stats will be skewed ad nauseam.)


May the best incumbent win.

Re: Anyone Had Enough Hope And Change?

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:31 am
by dales
rubato wrote:
dales wrote:
rubato wrote:
Only a stupid person blames Obama for their actions.

yrs,
rubato
Huh? :shrug

Reading is easier if you can recall something from 4 lines back in the text:


"Republican actions. Republican effects."
I was discussing NOW, not when BOOB was president.

Under BO things have been getting worse.

Both the reps and the dems work for the same people and would sell the American people out in a heartbeat.

The sooner the sheeple realize this, the better of we'll all be.