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Good news on the jobs front..

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:59 pm
by Gob
The US economy added a net 195,000 new jobs in June, official figures show.

The figure was well above economists' expectations of 165,000. Revisions to data for April and May added a further 70,000 jobs to previous estimates.

The jobless rate remained steady at 7.6% of the workforce, according to the data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The dollar and US bond yields jumped as markets expectations rose that interest rates will start rising in a year.

The euro fell three quarters of a cent against the dollar to $1.282, while gold fell almost 3% to $1,214.36 an ounce.

The yield on 10-year Treasury bonds rose from 2.5% to 2.68% to their highest level in almost two years.

Treasury bonds - the US government's cost of borrowing - provide an indication of when markets expect the US Federal Reserve to begin raising interest rates, with many analysts now predicting that a move could come as soon as the end of 2014.

The news was initially welcomed on Wall Street, where the Dow, S&P 500, and Nasdaq all opened higher.

They turned negative mid-morning but regained the higher ground by afternoon trading.

"US employment data came out on the strong side of expectations," wrote Brown, Brothers, & Harriman in a note to clients.

"The jobs data will strengthen expectations of tapering Fed asset purchases,"

Economists paid close attention to the number this month due to concerns that the US Federal Reserve might begin to wind down - or "taper" - its policy of propping up the US economy by buying up debts with newly-created money.

Comments by chairman Ben Bernanke in June that indicated that positive economic data in the coming months might lead to tapering of the Fed's bond buying had roiled markets.

Re: Good news on the jobs front..

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:04 am
by dales
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/ ... hoofinance

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How One Month’s Jobless Fare a Month Later

By CATHERINE RAMPELL


Friday’s jobs report was good, but it’s worth remembering that people already unemployed are still having a terrible time finding work. This is particularly evident from the Labor Department’s flows data, which track the labor force status of individuals from one month to the next. Here’s a chart showing the flows for unemployed workers — that is, if a worker was unemployed last month, what is his or her labor status this month?

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics, via Haver Analytics. The lines show worker flows from unemployment last month into each of the following statuses in the current month: unemployment, not in labor force, employment.Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics, via Haver Analytics. The lines show worker flows from unemployment last month into each of the following statuses in the current month: unemployment, not in labor force, employment.

As you can see, the most likely outcome for someone unemployed in May was to continue being unemployed in June. The second-most-likely outcome was to drop out of the labor force entirely — that is, stop looking for work. (That’s part of the reason that today’s labor force participation rate is so low, although the biggest flow into the “not in labor force” category still comes from people who are leaving jobs rather than giving up a fruitless job hunt.)

Finally, the third-most-likely outcome was to find a job. Over all, fewer than one in five people who were unemployed in May were employed in June.

Unemployed workers have been more likely to flow out of the labor force than into employment for almost the entire period beginning around December 2008 to the present. This was historically not the case; for the nearly 19 years spanning from February 1990 (when the data series began) to the end of 2008, jobless workers were almost always more likely to find a job than to give up or retire. There were only two months when this was not the case (March 2003 and December 2005).

In June, the number of people flowing from unemployment into employment (2,330,000) was almost as high as the the number flowing from unemployment out of the labor force (2,481,000), but not quite. Fingers crossed, maybe next month we’ll finally see those lines cross each other again.

Re: Good news on the jobs front..

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:10 pm
by dgs49
Catherine is an idiot.

It takes time to find a job. The old rule of thumb was one month for every $10 thousand you would expect to earn, but that's probably $15 thousand now. So if you are a $75 thousand personnel manager, it SHOULD take you five months to land another job. Under Catherine's thinking, that poor bastard has an 80% likelihood of "still being unemployed" every month. What a fucking maroon.

There is no "good news" in this job market. The number of jobs added this month is just about enough to allow for the new entrants into the work force, and does nothing about those who are looking for work. This is the worst "recovery" in history, as the "normal" recovery shows jobs added at multiples of the mere replacement number.

Since this is the "Politics" forum I will point out that the MSM is doing a tremendous disservice to the public by painting this disastrous economy with bright colors, so that our inept President will not be blamed. Not that it is primarily his fault. Just sayin'.

Re: Good news on the jobs front..

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:15 pm
by dales
dgs49 wrote:Catherine is an idiot.

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There is no "good news" in this job market. The number of jobs added this month is just about enough to allow for the new entrants into the work force, and does nothing about those who are looking for work. This is the worst "recovery" in history, as the "normal" recovery shows jobs added at multiples of the mere replacement number.

I agree, if this Prez was a Republican you'd never hear the end of the pissing and moaning about the economy, Because he is a Democrat, he gets a pass

Since this is the "Politics" forum I will point out that the MSM is doing a tremendous disservice to the public by painting this disastrous economy with bright colors, so that our inept President will not be blamed. Not that it is primarily his fault. Just sayin'.

Re: Good news on the jobs front..

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:24 am
by oldr_n_wsr
We had a net gain of jobs here on LI however, most of those jobs are of the lower paying service jobs. A lot of hotel and resturant jobs many of which are seasonal anyway.

Re: Good news on the jobs front..

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:34 pm
by rubato
Be a good time to invest in infrastructure.

Lowest cost.

yrs,
rubato

Re: Good news on the jobs front..

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:29 pm
by dales
Like the eastern span of the SF-Oakland Bay Bridge?

Lemme see.....24 years and billions of dollars later and still no bridge!

Shovel ready, baby! :ok

Wasn't that one Obama's ideas way back in 2009?

"Shovel-ready" and all that 1-trillion dollar rot.

Re: Good news on the jobs front..

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:54 pm
by Big RR
According to this link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_sp ... Bay_Bridge, It seems like work is progressing. Yes, it's Wikipedia so it may be in error, but if it's right, it seems like the work is moving along.

Re: Good news on the jobs front..

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:47 pm
by dales
Excuse my while I.........Image

Re: Good news on the jobs front..

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:32 pm
by Big RR
Well, if you have more recent information, perhaps you can stop guffawing long enough to post it. I have not been following this closely (although I do recall something about problems with the bolts used at one point), but if it's not ready or coming along, it would be interesting to see why. And what Obama has to do with it (I'm more than willing to blame him if it's deserved, but he's done enough stupid/indefensible things that I don't think it fair to pillory him with something not his fault, shovel ready or not).

Re: Good news on the jobs front..

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:40 pm
by dales
Sorry Big RR.....not guffawing at you but at Wiki.

Here's the latest from a day ago.............................http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/B ... 653841.php

Re: Good news on the jobs front..

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:16 pm
by Big RR
Thanks; I didn't think it was aimed at me. It looks like a typical public works project, but at least it seems like they're trying to take the structural integrity seriously and trying to avoid future problems. In the end, I'd rather have something put up safely as opposed to quickly. but it also seems like an investigation into the performance and oversight is definitely in order.