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Renewed Threat

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:34 pm
by Lord Jim
'Significant' al Qaeda threat remains unclear as embassy closures extended

By Kristen Welker and Daniel Arkin, NBC News

Top U.S. officials on Sunday said the exact nature of the suspected al Qaeda threat that temporarily shuttered key U.S. diplomatic posts across the Middle East and North Africa remains unclear, and that intelligence suggests the "significant" event could mean either one large attack or simultaneous attacks across the globe.

Meanwhile, officials late Sunday said 19 embassies and consulates would remain closed through next Saturday.

Officials told NBC News that the threat appears to be linked to Yemen, but State Department spokespeople have only confirmed that the warnings are generally tied to al Qaeda.

Yemen is home to perhaps the most dangerous terror network affiliate, known as al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). The lethal wing is considered responsible for several terrorist strikes on the United States, including the foiled Christmas Day 2009 attempt to bomb an airplane over Detroit.

Some European countries — including Britain, Germany, and France — temporarily shut down their embassies in Yemen as officials moved to tighten security.

Security officers and soldiers blocked roads outside Western embassies in the capital of Sanaa Sunday, only allowing residents through following thorough inspections, while troops with automatic rifles were on hand outside the French embassy, according to Reuters.

"There is a high level of coordination with the American side, and these measures have been taken due to fears of attacks by al Qaeda," a Yemeni security official told Reuters.

On Sunday, the State Department announced that "out of an abundance of caution," the closure of several embassies and consulates would be extended.

"Given that a number of our embassies and consulates were going to be closed in accordance with local custom and practice for the bulk of the week for the Eid celebration at the end of Ramadan, and out of an abundance of caution, we've decided to extend the closure of several embassies and consulates including a small number of additional posts," spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a statement.

"This is not an indication of a new threat stream, merely an indication of our commitment to exercise caution and take appropriate steps to protect our employees including local employees and visitors to our facilities."

The closure extensions week include 15 posts that were already closed Sunday and four additional posts.

Posts in Abu Dhabi, Amman, Cairo, Riyadh, Dhahran, Jeddah, Doha, Dubai, Kuwait, Manama, Muscat, Sanaa, Tripoli, Antanarivo, Bujumbura, Djibouti, Khartoum, Kigali, and Port Louis are instructed to close for normal operations Monday, August 5 through Saturday, August 10, the State Department said.

U.S. offices in Algiers, Baghdad, Kabul and six other cities are authorized to reopen Monday.

Meanwhile, U.S. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle made the rounds on Sunday morning talk shows to shed light on the threat.

The threat represents the most serious in years and harkens back to the “chatter” that preceded the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, a top Republican lawmaker said Sunday, as officials at nearly two dozen U.S. embassies tightened security.

“The one thing we can talk about is the fact that there’s been an awful lot of chatter out there,” Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R.-Ga.), the ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Sunday morning on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” He added that the chatter is “very reminiscent of what we saw pre-9/11.”


“This is the most serious threat that I’ve seen in the last several years,” Chambliss said.

Rep. C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.), the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, told ABC’s “This Week” that the threat information intercepted from “high-level people in al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula” concerned a “major attack.”

Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), who heads the House Homeland Security subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence, told ABC that “al Qaeda is in many ways stronger than it was before 9/11, because it’s mutated and it spread and it can come at us from different directions.”

“The threat was specific as to how enormous it was going to be and also that certain dates were given,” King said.

Rep. Adam Schiff, a House Intelligence Committee member, said the “breadth” of the embassy closures indicates that U.S. authorities are defending against a potential repeat of last year’s riots and strikes at multiple U.S. embassies, including the deadly attack on the post in Benghazi, Libya, where U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed.

What’s more, Interpol, the French-based international police agency, has issued a global security alert in relation to suspected al Qaeda involvement in various recent prison escapes, including those in Iraq, Libya and Pakistan.

“So you have a lot of things coming together. … But all of that would not be enough without having some particularly specific information,” Schiff told The Associated Press.

The Obama administration announced the weekend closures on Friday, and the State Department later released a global travel warning.

The alert called on American travelers to take additional precautions overseas, pointing to potential dangers involved with public transportation systems and other likely locations for tourists. It said that previous terrorist attacks have targeted subway and rail networks as well as airplanes and boats.


Bangladeshi police stop a motorist for checking in front of the U.S. embassy building that remained closed due to security threat in Dhaka, Bangladesh, Sunday, Aug. 4, 2013.

The alert is slated to expire Aug. 31.

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:59 pm
by TPFKA@W
I think it is Ramadan time. The fasting makes them all crazier than usual.

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:52 am
by Guinevere
Holding my breath until my Swede and his daughter get back from Tuscany.

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:25 pm
by dgs49
I wonder if it might be appropriate for these offices to take special precautions every year on September 11th.

Nah. Why would they?

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:48 pm
by Scooter
Because terrorists are obviously too stupid to shift their attentions away from 9/11 if governments made it too difficult to carry out attacks around that date.

Oh, wait, isn't that exactly what they are doing now, at the beginning of August?

It takes a special kind of moron...

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:46 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
Scooter wrote:Because terrorists are obviously too stupid to shift their attentions away from 9/11 if governments made it too difficult to carry out attacks around that date.

Oh, wait, isn't that exactly what they are doing now, at the beginning of August?
Not when
The alert is slated to expire Aug. 31.

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:15 pm
by Scooter
Yes, the alert is ending Aug 31, presumably because the chatter is saying that whatever the terrorists might be planning will be taking place sometime before that date. Isn't that what I just said?

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:01 pm
by Big RR
That's what THEY (pick whatever they you want) want you to believe. :o

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:38 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
Scooter wrote:Yes, the alert is ending Aug 31, presumably because the chatter is saying that whatever the terrorists might be planning will be taking place sometime before that date. Isn't that what I just said?
Yes you said the threat is in august reflecting the chatter. But you also replied to a post which alluded to our lack of alert last 9/11 which I believed you were referncing that our higher alert now somehow relates to this coming 9/11. If you mean august only, then say that. When you quote (or respond) to a post that brings up the 9/11 date then things get confusing as to what you really mean to say.

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:15 pm
by Scooter
sigh

Dave said there should be precautions taken every 9/11

I replied that focussing on 9/11 is useless because terrorists could easily pick another time to launch attacks, which, based on the current chatter, they appear to have intended to do.

I don't see how that is confusing in the slightest.

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:10 am
by oldr_n_wsr
Thanks for the clarification. To me it was confusing.
And I agree with Dave in that we should be on hightened alert every 9/11, had we been last year, 4 people might be alive today.

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:51 pm
by dgs49
The closings of the mid-Eastern embassies will continue through 9/11 because of the heightened level of terrorist activity at that time every year. But of course we all know that we got caught with out pants down last year around that date.

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:56 pm
by Scooter
Because under those circumstances clearly it would not occur to any terrorist (Muslims are stupid, dontcha know) to put off an attack until October.

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:14 pm
by Econoline
I just did a (very) little research and was able to determine that the date September 11, 2001 corresponds to the 23rd day of the month Jumādā ath-Thāniya (a.k.a. Jumādā al-Ākhira a.k.a. Jumādā II) in the year 1422 A.H. on the Islamic calendar (which is a lunar calendar consisting of either 354 or 355 days, depending on the year).

Why wouldn't Islamic militants use their own calendar rather than the calendar of us infidels in order to determine the anniversary of that date?

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:23 pm
by Big RR
Because it's too hard to make a plane reservation for Jumādā ath-Thāniya 23, 1422?

Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:58 pm
by Joe Guy
dgs49 wrote:The closings of the mid-Eastern embassies will continue through 9/11 because of the heightened level of terrorist activity at that time every year. But of course we all know that we got caught with out pants down last year around that date.
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Re: Renewed Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:00 pm
by Lord Jim
Some people are always getting caught with their pants down...