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Lille: Dominique Strauss-Kahn has told a French court he did not know the women at "festive and playful" sex parties he attended were prostitutes, saying that would have been too risky given his then-role as head of the IMF.

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Strauss-Kahn, 65, is accused of instigating about a dozen parties he knew involved prostitutes from 2008 to 2011 in the northern French city of Lille, as well as Paris, Washington and Brussels.

Speaking in a calm, confident voice and wearing a sober black suit, he acknowledged his fondness for "libertine" parties with a small group of friends who at times invited him to join "a lunch or something more festive and playful" in Paris.

He never organised the parties nor asked others to organise them, and would not have attended had he known the women were prostitutes, Strauss-Kahn said, expressing a "horror for paid sexual relations".

"It would be really too dangerous" to consort with prostitutes given his elevated position at the International Monetary Fund and their susceptibility to pressure from police and pimps, he said.

The question of whether or not Strauss-Kahn knew the women were prostitutes and who organised the parties is central to the three-week trial, in which he is charged with "procuring with aggravating circumstances", or pimping.


Strauss-Kahn downplayed the frequency of the parties, and cast them as casual meetings between like-minded people.

"When you read the criminal complaint you get the impression it was this frenetic activity," said Strauss-Kahn. "But it was four times a year, not more than that. It wasn't this out-of-control activity that the complaint suggests."

Strauss-Kahn was tipped to become French president before being accused of sexual assault by a New York hotel chambermaid in 2011. US criminal charges were dropped, and the allegations that he participated in a French sex ring emerged later.

Earlier in the day, three topless protesters from the FEMEN group, their chests and torsos painted with slogans, threw themselves on Strauss-Kahn's car as it arrived at court.

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One ex-prostitute hired for one of the sex parties in Paris said it was different from normal libertine gatherings.

"I found myself in the middle of all these girls around this man," she said, referring to Strauss-Kahn. "There weren't other men so it wasn't a libertine gathering, at least my definition."

She and another woman who attended the same gathering - both of whom are civil parties in the case - said Strauss-Kahn must have known he was dealing with prostitutes.

The second woman, also a former prostitute, described what happened when she was left alone with Strauss-Kahn in a bedroom.

"There were activities ... against nature. I wasn't used to doing things of that nature," said the woman, speaking softly and hesitantly. "It wasn't violence, it was a relationship of force."

Despite crying and gesturing to him that she was uncomfortable with the practice, she consented "because I really needed that money and I was scared maybe not to leave with it.

"He was smiling from the beginning until the end."

Strauss-Kahn, asked about her testimony, said he had not seen her crying and didn't realise she was trying to say no.

Strauss-Kahn, who says his political career is already over, could face 10 years in prison and a fine of up to 1.5 million euros ($A2.2 million) if convicted.
He thought that these women were at the parties, three a parties a year, due to his huge sex appeal and his magnetic personality, and not hookers?

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He's a classic psychopath, from the sounds of it.
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He thought they were sex-workers.
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Even sex workers have the right to set the terms of engagement and not to be forced in any way.
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Yeah... I was suggesting he was making a semantic excuse. Maybe I spelled that incorrectly...
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