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Former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling fires back after trolls’ violent, sexual tweets about teen daughter

And they’re out.

Former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling isn’t just a World Series MVP — he’s also one fierce dad.

As many as nine Twitter users paid the price for their posts after Schilling’s proud tweet congratulating daughter Gabby on her acceptance to the Rhode Island college Salve Regina devolved into sexually explicit online comments directed at the teen.

“As a father, besides providing for my family, what other job do I have? Loving my kids and protecting my family,” Schilling told the Daily News Monday night.

He said he is aware of nine trolls who lost their jobs or got kicked off athletic teams — “and we’re not done.”

The unrelenting father, who wrote an angry response on his personal blog (38 pitches) after the social media maelstrom, told The News, “Lost in all of this is, my daughter is 17. She’s a minor. And these guys are all adults. I’m pursuing legal recourse on a couple of them because they broke the law. What they did can have them labeled as a sex offender for the rest of their lives.”

One Twitter user, identified by Schilling as recent Montclair (N.J.) State University graduate Sean MacDonald, was fired by the Yankees as a part-time ticket seller Monday, after the team learned of his offensive posts.

“There is no place for anything like this and the Yankees have zero tolerance for anything of this nature,” Jason Zillo, the Yankees’ executive director of communications, told the Daily News Monday, referring to MacDonald’s firing. “He is no longer with us.”

Schilling noted on his blog that MacDonald was a member of the Theta Xi fraternity while at Montclair State. The frat was quick to distance itself from his crude remarks.

"I've said a lot of dumb things, a lot of stupid things. I've said things I wish I hadn't said. But I don't ever remember in my life, online, in person, in a dream, saying things like that to anyone, or thinking things like that to anyone,” Schilling told The News. “Again, I was a high school boy, college kid. I know how we act and how we think. But if I was ever to utter something like that, my dad would come out of the grave and kill me. This is almost like people saying to a woman who got raped, 'Well, you were dressed for it.' Are you kidding me?"

On his blog, Schilling called the Nagel and MacDonald "gutless clowns" who would never have the courage to make the offensive comments face to face.

"A mistake is tweeting once and saying 'damn, I'm an idiot' and taking it down. These guys? They're making conscious choices to cyberbully an amazing and beautiful young woman on the internet, that none of them know by the way, because they don't like her dad or they somehow think saying words you can teach a 5 year old is tough?" wrote Schilling.

“My right hand to God I promise all of you that tweeted this stuff, the friends around you saying 'dude that's hilarious' and 'OMG that's awesome'? Those people? Inside they're actually thinking 'what an ass#$!Q' and 'holy crap what a piece of trash,' no matter what they say to your face.

"Ladies? If any of these guys is your boyfriend you're in for a real rude awakening. Lastly? Not one of these gutless clowns would even think of saying a word of ANY of this in person. Curt."

Schilling said his original tweet last week — “Congrats to Gabby Schilling who will pitch for the Salve Regina Seahawks next year!!” — drew predictable responses like “Can’t wait to date her!”

But after Schilling, 48, tweeted a humorous follow-up post that he has friends “in or former special forces,” he said the tweets turned sickening.

"I expected to get feedback, 'Hey dude, I'm going to be hitting on your daughter.' Whatever. That's when I typed back, 'Hey, I know some guys in the special forces.' I was joking. And the first tweet out was, 'I'm going to make your daughter's underwear as red as your sock.' And I was like, 'That's kind of a gloves off. Let's go,'" Schilling told The News. "The post I made on my blog was probably the 57,000th version of it. My first post was, 'You mother----, I'm going to hop in a car and kill you.' You get that anger when you grit your teeth and realize you're doing it.

"Now let me emphasize again. I was a jock my whole life. I played sports my whole life. Baseball since I was 5 until I retired at 41. I know clubhouses. I lived in a dorm. I get it,” Schilling wrote. “Guys will be guys. Guys will say dumb crap, often. But I can't ever remember, drunk, in a clubhouse, with best friends, with anyone, ever speaking like this to someone…"

In one enraged post, he issued a warning: “You pieces of garbage out there who are even starting to think ‘what’s the big deal?’ or ‘I was just joking around’ can stick it. ... The real world has consequences when you do and say things about others.”

Schilling — a current ESPN analyst who won fame for his clutch pitching against the Yankees in the 2004 ALCS — posted MacDonald and Nagel’s names and backgrounds on his personal blog after tracing their accounts back to them.

“This is not a pride thing, where it’s, 'I'm going to show them.' One of the defenses of people trying to defend these guys is, 'You should know this is the world we live in now.' And my response was, 'No, it's not. We can allow it to be that way, but it's not.' You want bad to be the norm, then do nothing," Schilling said Monday night.
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I heard about this; good for him!

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A man after my own heart, you can take the piss out of me as much as you like, but threaten or abuse mine, and I'll make you pay.
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He is right that the responses were ridiculous, but he is also naively wrong. This is the world of the internet -- trolls abound. If you put something out there in an open forum, you will get responses from the entire spectrum, the intelligent to the knuckle-draggers. So, it is probably a good policy to not put personal stuff out to an open forum because who needs to see outrageous posts from idiots concerning friends and family.

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Oops -double post! :oops:
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Manners matter, and of late they are abysmally absent from much of our social discourse.

Speaking via the internet does nothing to excuse disgusting, hurtful speech/behavior - everything Schilling said was spot on and it makes me heartsick that he's howling into the wind when it comes to these monster bullies.

If it wouldn't be said face to face, it shouldn't be said. Period. :arg
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One of the defenses of people trying to defend these guys is, "You should know this is the world we live in now." And my response was, "No, it's not. We can allow it to be that way, but it's not." You want bad to be the norm, then do nothing.
:clap: Well said.
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I love Curt. I don't agree with a lot of what he has to say, and often how he says it, and he can be quite the shyster --- but on this one he is totally correct. I read a bunch of the original responses via a Boston Globe piece and its all over the sports radio stations here. The comments were some of the foulest crap I've ever seen on the Internet. It was (and is) disgusting.

I notice the NY Daily News did not report that one of the big mouthed creeps was a NY Yankees employee who was terminated for what we tweeted. Good for them, too.
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bigskygal wrote: it makes me heartsick that he's howling into the wind when it comes to these monster bullies.
Apparently not if 9 have been fired from their jobs for their disgusting comments, and more face possible legal consequences. With a few more cases like this -- where idiots are held to account for extremely bad internet behavior -- and maybe there might change in that behavior.

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With a few more cases like this -- where idiots are held to account for extremely bad internet behavior -- and maybe there might change in that behavior.
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I notice the NY Daily News did not report that one of the big mouthed creeps was a NY Yankees employee who was terminated for what we tweeted.
In fairness to The NY Daily News Guin, (and since my father worked for them for a number of years, I like to be fair to them 8-) ) they did (from the article in the OP):
One Twitter user, identified by Schilling as recent Montclair (N.J.) State University graduate Sean MacDonald, was fired by the Yankees as a part-time ticket seller Monday, after the team learned of his offensive posts.

“There is no place for anything like this and the Yankees have zero tolerance for anything of this nature,” Jason Zillo, the Yankees’ executive director of communications, told the Daily News Monday, referring to MacDonald’s firing. “He is no longer with us.”
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