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Darren
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Passed along from an MD who was a HS classmate.

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He reposted this for friends on FB,

Post from medical oncologist on Medscape, disagreeing with Medscape -- says HCQ & Z-pack work, plus maybe zinc and/or vit C to reduce cytokine storm.

Oncology, Medical 5 hours ago
First, the mechanism of action IS understood. It is a zinc ionophore and we have more than 40 years of papers on the function of zinc as an antiviral. Not to mention 60 years on quinine derivatives.

Second, I never want to read again about any doctor anywhere having his judgment over-ruled in an emergency.by politicians, peer groups, medical directorates or others, on the basis of "it's not evidence based". For Fauci, who supported the HCQ in SARS only to hypocritically ignore it now, going to the wall is not good enough. Plus, If you knew just how bad evidence-based medicine is in general, you would never read a study again. And contrary to assertions, HCQ is all over the Chinese literature in positive use. Cherry picking the negative results is just poor science. Incidentally, indomethacin works well too. The Italian study from years ago is accurate even though it didn't get to human testing against SARS.

Third, once you know that zinc is an essential co-factor, why are we designing studies WITHOUT checking for zinc status ? And are we aware that 50% of Chinese folks are utterly zinc deficient.? Do you think that would have a bearing on equivocal studies? And their rate of illness? Of course their data is manufactured and has no bearing with reality, so who knows what really happened in Wuhan...?

In my entourage, several went down with this COVID. Of those, 4 suffered desaturations. They were all zinc primed, placed on HCQ and Z-pack. 8 hours later each was breathing normally again and made full recoveries. This is mirrored by colleagues who ignored the WHO CDC NIH (they can no longer be trusted) using Vitamin C 50 gr IV to short-circuit impending cytokine storms, zinc primed them, and did HCQ+Z-pack. Blinding fast recovery, one person pushing 72 years of age with a O2 sat of 65% who refused hospitalization.
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Darren, that's almost interesting.

Coincidentally, I also had high school classmates who went on to become doctors, and even lawyers.
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RayThom wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:18 pm
Darren, that's almost interesting.

Coincidentally, I also had high school classmates who went on to become doctors, and even lawyers.
Lawyers? Sorry. I'm all out of sympathy.

I will grant you that predilections like that are a no never mind when the testosterone kicks in. You never really had a shot at doing an intervention.

To be fair, I've used some really great lawyers to sue people, etc. One even treated me to a great Chinese meal sans bats. I always thought you had to order off the menu.

If someone figures out how to spot the shysters early on it would be a blessing.
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Oncologist? I am spending alot of time with those people. The ones I am talking to tell me I know more than they do about virus infections.

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