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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/civil ... r-AA1K6x1w


"The mainstream media in America has an alarming "worldview that Black Americans are always innocent victims," according to a prominent author and social commentator.

Robert L. Woodson Sr., who is Black and a longtime civil rights activist, penned an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday, urging the nation to "disregard race in how we judge one another" before it leads to "national ruin."

"When a mob violently attacked two people in downtown Cincinnati last [month], video of the beat-down spread across social media. But not a single major television network covered the story. It didn’t fit the mainstream media’s narrative about racial violence in America," Woodson wrote.

"The victims were White, and as of Wednesday police had arrested six Black suspects for their alleged roles in the public pummeling," he continued. "Today’s media seems to conflagrate over violence only when the perpetrator is White and the victim is Black. Then the cameras roll, protests erupt, and hashtags fly."

THREE MAJOR BROADCAST NETWORKS DIDN'T REPORT ON HEINOUS CINCINNATI BRAWL, REVIEW FINDS

The Media Research Center's NewsBusters analyzed ABC’s "Good Morning America" and "World News Tonight," "CBS News Mornings" and "Evening News," and NBC’s "Today" and "Nightly News" and found no coverage of the horrific viral brawl in Cincinnatti in the days immediately following the event.

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Woodson, who has authored multiple books, including "A Pathway to American Renewal: Red, White, and Black," believes that "the mainstream media buries the incident or ignores" violence when the races are reversed and in cases of "Black-on-Black" crime.

"Consider the tragic case of Ariana Delane, the 4-year-old niece of George Floyd, who was shot and wounded while sleeping beside her grandmother as gunfire hit their apartment. Despite the horror of her story, it received nowhere near the national attention that followed her uncle’s death," Woodson wrote. "Both the girl and Floyd deserved to live in peace, yet there is national outrage when a Black man is killed at the hands of police but silence when Black children are the collateral victims of the senseless violence plaguing our cities every day."

Woodson added that "journalists mostly ignored" that Blacks were frequent perpetrators during a 2018 spike in violent incidents against Asian-Americans.

CINCINNATI MAYORAL CANDIDATE, VP VANCE'S HALF-BROTHER, SLAMS CITY LEADERSHIP AFTER BRUTAL BEATDOWN

"The truth would have broken the media’s worldview that Black Americans are always innocent victims," he wrote.

"We teach our children that to be Black is to be permanently victimized and that to be white is to be perpetually guilty," Woodson continued. "Americans should renounce any schema in which one race is guilty and another innocent. That is the path to national ruin." "
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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liberty wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:03 pm
"When a mob violently attacked two people in downtown Cincinnati last [month], video of the beat-down spread across social media. But not a single major television network covered the story. It didn’t fit the mainstream media’s narrative about racial violence in America," Woodson wrote.

"The victims were White, and as of Wednesday police had arrested six Black suspects for their alleged roles in the public pummeling," he continued. "Today’s media seems to conflagrate over violence only when the perpetrator is White and the victim is Black. Then the cameras roll, protests erupt, and hashtags fly."

THREE MAJOR BROADCAST NETWORKS DIDN'T REPORT ON HEINOUS CINCINNATI BRAWL, REVIEW FINDS

The Media Research Center's NewsBusters analyzed ABC’s "Good Morning America" and "World News Tonight," "CBS News Mornings" and "Evening News," and NBC’s "Today" and "Nightly News" and found no coverage of the horrific viral brawl in Cincinnatti in the days immediately following the event.
In other news from the past week, there was a traffic accident that killed a person in Wisconsin; the La Crosse Loggers minor-league baseball team is in the Northwoods League playoffs; and a couple of nights ago someone's dog took a dump behind my car while it was parked in the apartment building's lot overnight.

Not all "news", even though it might be going viral on right-wing social media, is worthy of being covered on a national level by mainstream media.
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While a motive for the attack remains unclear, a new video surfaced last weekend showing the victims hurling racial slurs at their attackers moments before the barbaric beatdown erupted.
https://nypost.com/2025/08/07/us-news/s ... -incident/

She's insulted that the police chief called it an 'incident' - obviously never watched the news and so has no grasp of the word which is routinely used by law enforcement officials to describe unlawful behavior about which they have imperfect information and are still investigating.

I'm surprised her name isn't Karen.


Isn't the NY Post mainstream media?
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Isn't the NY Post mainstream media?
Sure, as is Fox. And the fact that Liberty reports on it shows how far that media reporting is seen.

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I got upset about a viral video that went around a year ago regarding a fight between a black teen girl and a white teen girl in MO; the white girl's head was smashed against the sidewalk a few times and she ended up hospitalized as a result.

Then it came out that she'd been suspended from school the day before for fighting in the school and the SRO had to toss her out. Then she made a date to meet up with this black girl she'd been in a text war with for a big fight off school grounds - since she was suspended, after all. And then she got her ass kicked.

The AG was calling for the black girl, an honors student, to be tried as an adult in the INCIDENT and to be charged with attempted murder. None of that ended up happening because when all the deets came out, apparently it was clear who the primary instigator was and yes, sometimes teenagers with brains that are not fully developed act out of hormones and uncontrolled emotions and do stupid shit like bashing someone's head on the ground repeatedly.

I've learned my lesson and don't rise to the bait. Maybe you should learn that lesson too, liberty. There's lots of shitty badly behaved people in this world and they come in all colors - including the color you see most in the mirror and in the social group you adhere to.

Here's some free advice: whether it's the middle of the day among sober people, or especially if it's late at night among many intoxicated people, it's best not to screech racial slurs at people of the race you are denigrating. You might get clocked or killed. Mayhap keep your trap shut and spew your racist invective in a safe space - like online, like so many of your peers do every single day.
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Bicycle Bill wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:05 pm
liberty wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:03 pm
"When a mob violently attacked two people in downtown Cincinnati last [month], video of the beat-down spread across social media. But not a single major television network covered the story. It didn’t fit the mainstream media’s narrative about racial violence in America," Woodson wrote.

"The victims were White, and as of Wednesday police had arrested six Black suspects for their alleged roles in the public pummeling," he continued. "Today’s media seems to conflagrate over violence only when the perpetrator is White and the victim is Black. Then the cameras roll, protests erupt, and hashtags fly."

THREE MAJOR BROADCAST NETWORKS DIDN'T REPORT ON HEINOUS CINCINNATI BRAWL, REVIEW FINDS

The Media Research Center's NewsBusters analyzed ABC’s "Good Morning America" and "World News Tonight," "CBS News Mornings" and "Evening News," and NBC’s "Today" and "Nightly News" and found no coverage of the horrific viral brawl in Cincinnatti in the days immediately following the event.
In other news from the past week, there was a traffic accident that killed a person in Wisconsin; the La Crosse Loggers minor-league baseball team is in the Northwoods League playoffs; and a couple of nights ago someone's dog took a dump behind my car while it was parked in the apartment building's lot overnight.

Not all "news", even though it might be going viral on right-wing social media, is worthy of being covered on a national level by mainstream media.
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If someone creates a misimpression, aren't they expected to correct it? The national news media has given the impression that Black people are always the victims, and white people are always the racists and aggressors. "Always" implies everyone—does that include you, BB?
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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What if the "misimpression" is entirely in your imagination?
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liberty wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 6:12 pm
If someone creates a misimpression, aren't they expected to correct it?
"Expected" by whom? Have you met capitalism, American culture generally and Madison Avenue in particular?
liberty wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 6:12 pm
The national news media has given the impression that Black people are always the victims, and white people are always the racists and aggressors.
How has "the national media" given that "impression"? Be specific and give examples. Here's a hint: National media generally don't cover local crime and fire news unless it actually has national significance. George Floyd's murder at the hands of police got media attention because it was documented on video -- a rarity -- and the lack of accountability/legal immunity for police murdering black people generally was already an ongoing national story.
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BoSoxGal wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 5:39 pm
While a motive for the attack remains unclear, a new video surfaced last weekend showing the victims hurling racial slurs at their attackers moments before the barbaric beatdown erupted.
https://nypost.com/2025/08/07/us-news/s ... -incident/

She's insulted that the police chief called it an 'incident' - obviously never watched the news and so has no grasp of the word which is routinely used by law enforcement officials to describe unlawful behavior about which they have imperfect information and are still investigating.

I'm surprised her name isn't Karen.


Isn't the NY Post mainstream media?
I don't use racial slurs, and I try to treat everyone the same. If I use terms like ass hole or shit head, it's usually because that is what they are. In other words, someone a reasonably nice person doesn't want to be around. I hate using the word bastard, because that's what I am by birth. When I say these words, I mean a someone who emits a metaphorical personality odor. An unpleasant person.

But I'm not blind. When I see something that doesn't seem right, I'm going to say so. If you watch the news, you get the impression that only Black people are victims and white people are always the perpetrators. In fact, more Black people are killed by other Black people than by anyone else.

And regarding the story you mentioned about the two girls—what if one of them had died? Would it still be something you just brush off?
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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liberty wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:28 pm
If you watch the news, you get the impression that only Black people are victims and white people are always the perpetrators. In fact, more Black people are killed by other Black people than by anyone else.

And regarding the story you mentioned about the two girls—what if one of them had died? Would it still be something you just brush off?
Black children are being killed in far greater numbers than white children in the USA, and no, I don't 'brush it off' - it pains me greatly and gun regulation is one of the most important issues in our country IMNSHO.

I don't know how you get the impression from the news that you have shared here with us - it's illogical, and I believe, a knee jerk reactionary response to the teaching of ALL American history including what's been done to BIPOC people by white people over the last 400 years on this land we call home. Chip on your shoulder, I think.

It's common sense (I should think) and certainly easily accessible statistics from the FBI crime stats publicly available online that black people mostly kill black people, white people mostly kill white people, hispanic people mostly kill hispanic people, etc. Sadly most people who get killed get killed by someone they know, and we are mostly still a self segregated society.
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Bicycle Bill wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:05 pm
liberty wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:03 pm
"When a mob violently attacked two people in downtown Cincinnati last [month], video of the beat-down spread across social media. But not a single major television network covered the story. It didn’t fit the mainstream media’s narrative about racial violence in America," Woodson wrote.

"The victims were White, and as of Wednesday police had arrested six Black suspects for their alleged roles in the public pummeling," he continued. "Today’s media seems to conflagrate over violence only when the perpetrator is White and the victim is Black. Then the cameras roll, protests erupt, and hashtags fly."

THREE MAJOR BROADCAST NETWORKS DIDN'T REPORT ON HEINOUS CINCINNATI BRAWL, REVIEW FINDS

The Media Research Center's NewsBusters analyzed ABC’s "Good Morning America" and "World News Tonight," "CBS News Mornings" and "Evening News," and NBC’s "Today" and "Nightly News" and found no coverage of the horrific viral brawl in Cincinnatti in the days immediately following the event.
In other news from the past week, there was a traffic accident that killed a person in Wisconsin; the La Crosse Loggers minor-league baseball team is in the Northwoods League playoffs; and a couple of nights ago someone's dog took a dump behind my car while it was parked in the apartment building's lot overnight.

Not all "news", even though it might be going viral on right-wing social media, is worthy of being covered on a national level by mainstream media.
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What if the races had been reversed, and it was a white mob beating up a couple of Black people, do you think that would have made the CBS Evening News?
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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Sue U wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 7:59 pm
liberty wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 6:12 pm
If someone creates a misimpression, aren't they expected to correct it?
"Expected" by whom? Have you met capitalism, American culture generally and Madison Avenue in particular?
liberty wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 6:12 pm
The national news media has given the impression that Black people are always the victims, and white people are always the racists and aggressors.
How has "the national media" given that "impression"? Be specific and give examples. Here's a hint: National media generally don't cover local crime and fire news unless it actually has national significance. George Floyd's murder at the hands of police got media attention because it was documented on video -- a rarity -- and the lack of accountability/legal immunity for police murdering black people generally was already an ongoing national story.
Are you saying that police don’t get away with the unnecessary killing of white people? If I had the time, I could provide you with one incident involving a young white boy—a suspected drug pusher—who was running from the scene when a Hispanic officer shot him in the leg and captured him. The officer received a reprimand but wasn’t fired or prosecuted.

When was the last time you saw a report on the Evening News about a Black person committing a biased crime against a white person? It’s never reported as a biased or racist incident.

Not the same, but the best I can do in a rush: the Timothy Michael Randall shooting.
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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Dan Abrams agrees with liberty (news from 2023)....



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liberty wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 9:15 pm
Are you saying that police don’t get away with the unnecessary killing of white people?
Did I say that? Where exactly did I say that? I didn't. Police get away with killing people all the time, but it's black and brown people getting killed at a far, far higher rate:
When examining the rate of police killings per million people, significant disparities emerge:
  • Black Americans are killed at a rate of 6.2 per million people, according to Statista.
  • Hispanic people are killed at a rate of 2.8 per million people, according to Statista.
  • White people are killed at a rate of 2.4 per million people, according to Statista.
  • The rate for other ethnicities stands at 1 per million.
This indicates that Black Americans are killed at a significantly higher rate by police compared to other racial and ethnic groups in the United States, according to the NAACP. In fact, studies show Black individuals are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police over the course of their lives compared to white individuals.
It is insane that police are armed with handguns to begin with, but it's even more crazy how often they choose to use them in situations that absolutely do not call for any use of deadly force, which have been escalated to lethality by the cops themselves, as your Timothy Michael Randall case makes painfully obvious.
liberty wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 9:15 pm
When was the last time you saw a report on the Evening News about a Black person committing a biased crime against a white person? It’s never reported as a biased or racist incident.
I was a newspaper reporter covering the cops & crime beat for about 10 years. I don't watch the evening news.
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