They can't Win for Losing....

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They can't Win for Losing....

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SKorea sending home disqualified badminton players
Updated 04:41 a.m., Friday, August 3, 2012

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — The South Korean Olympic delegation is sending home four badminton players disqualified for trying to lose matches at the London Games.

Chief South Korean delegate Lee Ki-heung tells The Associated Press that the two women's doubles pairs will leave London as early as Friday along with their coach. Lee spoke by phone from London.

Two other doubles teams, from China and Indonesia, were also kicked out of the games earlier this week after deliberately playing poorly to secure a more favorable draw in the next round.

The International Olympic Committee is demanding further investigation by national Olympic committees. The IOC wants coaches, trainers and officials punished if they encouraged or ordered the eight players to lose intentionally.

Lee says the four South Korean players and their coach violated the Olympic spirit of fair play and sportsmanship.

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Re: They can't Win for Losing....

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I think the problem is with the rules, if they can actually gain an advantage by losing.

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dgs49 wrote:I think the problem is with the rules, if they can actually gain an advantage by losing.
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I agree that there is a problem with the rules.

In regards to fair play and sportsmanship, does it in any way compare to a football team slowly using up the clock for four downs by doing almost nothing in order to preserve their lead and ensure a win?

I know it's not the same as losing a game on purpose, but it is a way of winning by not performing at a competitive level.

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In regards to fair play and sportsmanship, does it in any way compare to a football team slowly using up the clock for four downs by doing almost nothing in order to preserve their lead and ensure a win?
I don't think it's bad sportsmanship to act openly within the rules of the game....(besides, if they string it out too long they'll get a delay of game penalty)

And any team with a lead has the same opportunity....

For real abuse, do you remember the "four corners offense" (actually calling it an"offense" is really oxymoronic) in college basketball before they finally put in a shot clock?

Dean Smith, UNC's long time head coach was the inventor and the master of this....

Many's the time I can remember where the Tar Heels would sit on a lead for the last 20 minutes of a game rarely if ever taking a shot, while they played "keep away" with the other team....

Damn near as boring as a cricket game....
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That's nothing!

From the world of real football...
Caribbean Shell Cup, 1994: Barbados Vs Grenada

Grenada went into the match with a superior goal difference, meaning that Barbados needed to win by two goals to progress to the finals. The trouble was caused by two things. First, unlike most group stages in football competitions, the organizers had deemed that all games must have a winner. All games drawn over 90 minutes would go to sudden death extra time. Secondly and most importantly, there was an unusual rule which stated that in the event of a game going to sudden death extra time the goal would count double, meaning that the winner would be awarded a two goal victory.

Barbados was leading 2-0 until the 83rd minute, when Grenada scored, making it 2-1. Approaching the dying moments, the Barbadians realized they had little chance of scoring past Grenada's mass defense in the time available, so they deliberately scored an own goal to tie the game at 2-2. This would send the game into extra time and give them another half hour to break down the defense. The Grenadians realized what was happening and attempted to score an own goal as well, which would put Barbados back in front by one goal and would eliminate Barbados from the competition.

However, the Barbados players started defending their opposition's goal to prevent them from doing this, and during the game's last five minutes, the fans were treated to the incredible sight of Grenada trying to score in either goal while Barbados defended both ends of the pitch. Barbados successfully held off Grenada for the final five minutes, sending the game into extra time. In extra time, Barbados notched the game-winner, and, according to the rules, was awarded a 4-2 victory, which put them through to the next round.
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Re: They can't Win for Losing....

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Just kick badminton out of the games. Tennis too. Who cares?

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That's priceless....

I'd love to see the video of that.... :D
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