Hey, Hey, Hey . . . It's Bill Cosby, Serial Rapist!

[MajGenl.Meade]

Serial bowl

[wesw]

iba donba know fat albert

[TPFKA@W]

Interstingly Jim Clemente, retired FBI profiler who consults with and writes for Criminal Minds, is saying on Twitter that the Cos is guilty. He was a sex crimes expert.

[Big RR]

I have a friend who was counsel for one of the biggest Atlantic City Casinos who often had to meet with the entertainers, and she told me it was pretty well known to watch out for Bill Cosby and not be alone with him.

[Lord Jim]

Some Cosby updates...

Cosby resigns from Temple University trustees board

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Bill Cosby, the popular face of Temple University in advertisements, fundraising campaigns and commencement speeches, has resigned from the board of trustees following renewed accusations that he drugged and sexually assaulted more than a dozen women over many years.

Cosby, 77, resigned Monday from the seat he had held since 1982.

"I have always been proud of my association with Temple University. I have always wanted to do what would be in the best interests of the university and its students," Cosby said in a statement issued by the school.

The sparse statement made no mention of claims from female acquaintances who say they were drugged and molested by the entertainer, best known as an easygoing TV dad. Instead, the board issued a one-line statement that thanked Cosby "for his service."

At Temple, an online petition urging the university to cut ties with Cosby had garnered more than 1,000 signatures.

The accusations, although unproven, "got to the point where the reputation of the institution started to get dragged down with (them)," said Raymond Smeriglio, president of the student body.

Several other colleges also have severed their ties with Cosby in recent weeks. The Berklee College of Music will no longer award a scholarship in Cosby's name, and the University of Massachusetts-Amherst had him step down as honorary co-chairman of its fundraising campaign.

"I do wish and hope that Temple would say something," said senior Grace Holleran, the opinion editor of Temple News, as the staff worked to remake its lead story on Cosby before the weekly Monday night deadline.

"Temple would really drive home that it cares about victims of sexual assault if it stopped inviting him to talk on campus," she said.

Cosby almost never attended Temple board meetings over the years, but he was the university's public face. He also frequently turned out to support the school's basketball teams, an interest that connected him with the lone woman who filed suit against him.

Andrea Constand, who worked for the women's basketball team, said she had socialized with Cosby and then sought him out for career advice. She said he drugged and molested her at his suburban Philadelphia mansion in early 2004.

https://news.yahoo.com/cosby-resigns-te ... 21654.html

The behavior of Temple's administration has been absolutely disgraceful. Cosby settles a suit accusing him of raping and drugging one of their own and they do and say nothing, and even now the issue a statement "thanking him" ?

Cosby has plummeted from No. 3 to No. 2,615 on Marketing Arm’s list of most trusted celebrities, according to the Wall Street Journal.[Geez, I wonder who #2,616 is...Vladimir Putin? Charles Manson?]

Bill Cosby Offers Refunds to Upcoming Shows in New York

*Bill Cosby’s current troubles have resulted in the option of refunds to those who purchased tickets to upcoming shows in New York.

The Journal News reports that Cosby has agreed to offer refunds to anyone wanting them for deciding not to attend his Dec. 6 appearances in Tarrytown, N.Y. The entertainer ‘s performance is scheduled for two shows at 4 p.m. and 7:30 p.m.

In an email sent Friday from the Tarrytown Music Hall box office, the venue stated the following:

“Mr. Cosby’s management is now allowing for refunds for any patron’s (sic) that do not wish to attend the show. Please let me know if I may cancel and refund your order.”

The music hall’s executive director, Bjorn Olsson goes on to explain the venue’s reason for not cancelling Cosby’s appearances. If it did call off the performances, the report stated that Tarrytown Music Hall would have been responsible for paying $100,000 to the tour promoter.

Cosby’s offer to refund patrons is the latest development to occur amid sexual assault allegations against him. Over the last few weeks, the funnyman experienced the cancellation of projects for NBC and Netflix, in addition to cancelled appearances at a Las Vegas casino on Nov. 28 and another casino appearance in Arizona in February.

Read more at http://www.eurweb.com/2014/12/bill-cosb ... wuVKbjT.99

What a cynical move on Cosby's part; he's offering refunds in order cleanse the audience of "malcontents" and avoid being booed and heckled...

I hope one of two things happen:

90% plus take him up on his offer and he gets to do his show in front of a nearly empty hall...

Nobody cancels and he gets booed and heckled off the stage...

I was planning to post an article with a list of all the accusers and their accusations, but it's so long I'm going to put it in a separate thread...

[Lord Jim]

And now there are 20...the accusations behind the numbers (I'm posting this because I think seeing it all laid out really brings home the enormity of this, much more than just citing the latest number):

A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

The following women have alleged as a matter of public record that Bill Cosby sexually assaulted or raped them. They are listed in the order their allegations became public.

1. Lachele Covington. Covington, an actress who was 20 at the time, filed a police report alleging that Cosby pushed her hand toward his penis after inviting her to his New York home on Jan. 25, 2000 to give her career advice. The New York Post reported that authorities "decided no crime had been committed because until the very moment Covington pulled her hand away, all actions had been consensual." A Cosby spokesperson called the story "not true."

2. Andrea Constand. Constand told Ontario police in January 2005 that a year prior, when she was 31, she had visited Cosby at his home in Pennsylvania seeking career advice. (Constand, an Ontario native, worked at the time for Temple University, Cosby's alma mater.) Constand alleges he gave her "herbal" pills for anxiety, then “touched her breasts and vaginal area, rubbed his penis against her hand, and digitally penetrated” her. The Pennsylvania prosecutor who looked into the case has said that while he didn't bring charges because the available evidence was not sufficient, he found Constand "credible" and found Cosby "evasive." After prosecutors declined to charge him, Constand filed a civil suit against Cosby for $150 million; her suit cited, anonymously, 13 other women who alleged that he had sexually assaulted them. (Some of those women, referred to as "Jane Does" in legal language, have since identified themselves publicly and are mentioned below. The identities of Jane Doe witnesses are disclosed to defendants so their testimony can be fairly researched and challenged, but they are not ID'd by name in court or in public records.) Cosby's attorney called Constand's claims "utterly preposterous." The suit was settled for an undisclosed amount in 2006.

3. Shawn Brown. The National Enquirer reported in 2005 that Brown, who has also gone by the name Shawn Upshaw, says Cosby drugged and raped her while she was unconscious. The site Hollywood, Interrupted also published her allegations in 2007. Brown has now given an interview to the Daily Mail, which ran a piece on Nov. 26 detailing her story. Brown says she was in a consensual sexual relationship with Cosby in 1973 when he drugged and raped her at a house in Beverly Hills. Brown's daughter, Autumn Jackson, was jailed in 1998 for attempting to extort the comedian, who Brown believes to be Jackson's father. (Cosby has admitted sleeping with Brown but has said he is not Jackson's father.)

4. Tamara Green. In February of 2005, Green, a retired trial attorney, appeared on The Today Show and told Matt Lauer that Cosby had drugged and assaulted her in the '70s. Green was working as a model and met Cosby through mutual friends, she says, and he once offered her what he told her was cold medicine when she was ill. When she began to feel incapacitated, she alleges, he offered to take her home, where he began groping and undressing her; when she struggled, he left, leaving behind two $100 bills on her table. Cosby's attorney issued the following response (which referenced Green's maiden name, Lucier): "Miss Green’s allegations are absolutely false. Mr. Cosby does not know the name Tamara Green or Tamara Lucier, and the incident she describes did not happen." Green was one of the Jane Does cited in Constand's lawsuit.

5. Beth Ferrier. In June 2005, Ferrier, 46 at the time, told the Philadelphia Daily News that Cosby drugged her coffee when she visited him before a performance in Denver when she was 25. Ferrier, who worked as a model, had been in a consensual relationship with Cosby that ended before the alleged assault; she met him through mutual acquantainces and had believed he would help her with her career. Ferrier was also a Jane Doe.

6. Barbara Bowman. In 2006, Bowman publicly identified herself as one of Constand's Jane Does via an article in Philadelphia Magazine, though she didn't discuss details of her accusation at the time. In October of this year—after comedian Hannibal Buress called Cosby a rapist during a performance—Bowman, now 47 and an artist, spoke about her experience to the Daily Mail. When she was 17 and pursuing a career as a model and actress, she says, she met Cosby, who she says pursued a mentor-mentee relationship with her and drugged and assaulted her multiple times. (While the Daily Mail can be unreliable, Bowman later vouched for its version of her account in a Washington Post piece.) Bowman's account mentions that during their first encounter he asked her to wet her hair and pretend to be drunk while he stroked her, an incident similar to those recounted by other accusers.

7. Joan Tarshis. On Nov. 16 of this year Joan Tarshis, a 64-year-old music industry publicist and journalist, told Hollywood Elsewhere that Cosby raped her twice in 1969 when she was 19 years old and pursuing a career as a writer in L.A. Tarshis says Cosby first assaulted her after he invited her to work on material with him in his bungalow and made her a drink that caused her to lose consciousness.

8. Linda Joy Traitz. Now 63, Traitz wrote on Facebook on Nov. 17 that Cosby assaulted her when she was 19 and working as a waitress at a restaurant that he partially owned. Traitz alleges that Cosby offered her a ride home from the restaurant but instead drove her to a beach and tried to force her to take pills to help her "relax." Traitz told CNN he then groped her chest, pushed her down, and tried to lie on top of her. Traitz has a criminal record that includes imprisonment on a drug trafficking conviction; in a response to her allegations, Marty Singer, an attorney representing Cosby, cited her troubled past and said she lacks credibility.

9. Janice Dickinson. On Nov. 18, model and reality TV personality Janice Dickinson, now 59, told Entertainment Tonight that Cosby sexually assaulted her in 1982. At a dinner in Lake Tahoe at which they were to discuss her career, she says, she asked him for a pill for period cramps, and that "the last thing I remember was Bill Cosby in a patchwork robe, dropping his robe and getting on top of me. And I remember a lot of pain." Singer, Cosby's attorney, called Dickinson's story "a fabricated lie." Dickinson says Cosby's attorneys kept her from including a description of the alleged assault in a 2002 book, but Singer says she never wrote such a description and was never contacted by Cosby representatives.

10. Therese Serignese. The Huffington Post printed allegations made against Cosby by Serignese, a 57-year-old nurse in Boca Raton, Florida, on Nov. 20. She says she encountered Cosby in 1976 when she was 19 years old; he was headlining a show at the Las Vegas Hilton, she alleges, and approached her in the hotel gift shop. Backstage in the green room, he allegedly gave her drugs, and when she came to he was having sex with her in a bathroom, she says. Serignese subsequently stayed in contact with Cosby and accepted money from him—which he had promised to give her if she pursued an education and received good grades. She told the HuffPo that at one point in their relationship (it's not clear when) he asked her to wet her hair and pretend to be an actress.

11. Carla Ferrigno. Carla Ferrigno, an actress and the wife of Incredible Hulk star Lou Ferrigno, told Rumorfix on Nov. 20 that in 1967 Cosby grabbed her and forcefully kissed her at a party while his wife was in another room.

12. Louisa Moritz. Moritz, a 68-year-old lawyer and onetime actress who appeared in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, told TMZ in a story published Nov. 20 that in 1971, Cosby forced her to perform oral sex on him in the greenroom of The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson. Singer responded by saying allegations against Cosby have "reached a point of absurdity" and alleging that Moritz has been the subject of professional sanctions: "Mortiz is a lawyer who was disciplined by the California State Bar and ordered not to practice. We pulled the documents -- she can't practice because she didn't report certain quarterly reports."

13. Renita Chaney Hill. Hill, now 47, says she met Cosby when she was 15 and he was filming an educational TV segment in Pittsburgh. Hill says they stayed in touch for four years—that Cosby flew her to meet with him in various cities and kept in touch with her parents, asking them about her grades in school. On Nov. 20 a Pittsburgh CBS affiliate broadcast an interview with Hill in which she said she believes Cosby drugged and sexually assaulted her on more than one occasion during their relationship.

14. Michelle Hurd. Actress Michelle Hurd, known for her roles on Law & Order: Special Victims Unit and Gossip Girl, among others, described Cosby as being “very inappropriate” with her when she was doing stand-in work on the Cosby Show. “It started innocently, lunch in his dressing room, daily, then onto weird acting exercises were he would move his hands up and down my body, (can’t believe I fell for that) I was instructed to NEVER tell anyone what we did together,” Hurd reportedly wrote in a Facebook post on Nov. 20. “I dodged the ultimate bullet with him when he asked me to come to his house, take a shower so we could blow dry my hair and see what it looked like straightened... I then started to take notice and found another actress, a stand-in as well, and we started talking….. A LOT …. turns out he was doing the same thing to her, almost by the numbers, BUT, she did go to his house and because I will not name her, and it is her story to tell, all I’ll say is she awoke, after being drugged, vomited, and then Cosby told her there’s a cab waiting for you outside.”

15. Angela Leslie. On Nov. 21, the New York Daily News reported that a 52-year-old former model-actress named Angela Leslie says that Cosby sexually assaulted her in Las Vegas in 1992. Leslie alleges Cosby fixed her a drink, asked her to wet her hair and pretend to be intoxicated, and masturbated using her hand while she was "in shock."

16. Kristina Ruehli. The 71-year-old was one of the Jane Does in the Andrea Constand case that was settled out of court. In 1965, Ruehli worked as a secretary at a talent agency in Los Angeles that represented Cosby. Ruehli told Philadelphia Magazine in a story published on Nov. 21 that Cosby asked her to a party at his home, but it turned out she was the only guest. Cosby poured her a drink that she says must have been drugged. “There is just one point at which I was having a drink and feeling normal and the next I was somehow passed out completely,” Ruehli says. When she awoke Cosby was trying to force her to perform oral sex, she says, but after she ran to the bathroom and vomited he was gone when she returned to the room where he had been.

17. Victoria Valentino. In early 1970, Valentino—a former Playboy Playmate—had dinner with Cosby and an aspiring actress named Meg Foster. Valentino says Cosby offered them red pills. All three took a pill and went back to Cosby’s house, according to Valentino's account. Valentino, now 71, says she recalled pulling Cosby off of Foster as he tried to rape her. “The room was spinning, and Valentino said she remembered feeling as if she was going to throw up,” she told the Washington Post in a piece published Nov. 22. “[Cosby] came over to me and sat down on the love seat and opened his fly and grabbed my head and pushed my head down. And then he turned me over. It was like a waking nightmare. She protested but could not stop him, she said.”

18. Joyce Emmons. Former comedy club manager Joyce Emmons told TMZ in a story published Nov. 22 that she ran in the same crowd as Cosby in the late 1970s, and that he kept "a drawer full of drugs." Emmons says “one night she got a bad migraine and Cosby offered her a white pill which he said 'was a little strong' but could cure a headache,” according to TMZ. “She says she took the pill, blacked out, and the next thing she knew she was nude in bed in Cosby's suite with one of his friends—a guy who had unsuccessfully tried hitting on her earlier in the evening. Emmons says she confronted Bill and demanded to know what drug she took, and he laughed and said it was ‘just a Quaalude.’ ”

19. Jewel Allison. Allison, a former model, told the New York Daily News in a story published Nov. 24 that Cosby sexually assaulted her at his New York City home in the late 1980s. She says the two of them were eating dinner at his Manhattan brownstone when she became disoriented after drinking wine he poured for her. Cosby then led her in front of a mirror, telling her to look at her own face, then placed her hand on his genitals, Allison alleges. She says he then gave her a "hard kiss" before hailing her a taxi, in which she vomited.

20. Donna Motsinger. The New York Post reported on Nov. 26 that the 73-year-old Motsinger says Cosby "drugged and raped her in 1971 when she worked as a waitress at a jazz club in Sausalito, Calif." Motsinger was one of the Jane Does identified in Andrea Constand's lawsuit.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/201 ... ories.html

[MajGenl.Meade]

Well it sure looks as if some bad things were done by Mr Cosby. However, some of those stories are rather weak and when one considers the 'witnesses' in the Salem witch trials...

ETA: perhaps I mean 'accusers' and 'accusations'

ETAATETAAT: see how that works, wesw?

[rubato]

Well it sure looks as if some bad things were done by Mr Cosby. However, some of those stories are rather weak and when one considers the 'witnesses' in the Salem witch trials...

ETA: perhaps I mean 'accusers' and 'accusations'

ETAATETAAT: see how that works, wesw?

Except that witches and witchcraft are superstitious beliefs created and spread by Christians while sexual predation is real.


yrs,
rubato

[Sue U]

I am a Temple alum. Sexual assault allegations against Cosby were known on campus 35 years ago and discussed in the newsroom when I worked on the Temple News. But Cosby was untouchable (at least for us), in part because we didn't know what we were doing, but mostly because at that time you couldn't go after such a public figure -- particularly within Temple -- without a rock-solid story (we were quaintly being schooled in how to be "real journalists"). And at that time, no one knew just how many women may have been involved. In fact, at that time most of the incidents on the list hadn't yet occurred; we thought there was one, possibly two women who had experienced "unwanted advances," but she/they had apparently been paid for her/their silence.

I'm glad to see the University severing its ties with him, but also saddened that Temple has lost such an ardent and high-profile supporter. The institution has come quite a long way from the ghetto school it was, I think in no small part because of the boosterism of kindly Dr. Cliff Huxtable.

[MajGenl.Meade]

I believe the point missed rubato entirely.

The accusations in Salem were false and from the start hysteria drove more and more people (particularly young women) to make similar false accusations

Accusations re Cosby sound true but some on that list are very tenuous and some/many/most may be false. Equally they may not be false and I would not be so crass as to categorically declare them to be such.

In such situations there is a danger of what I shall call "The Salem Syndrome" (not to be confused with similarly named diseases).

Thank you
Martha Corey

[rubato]

You did not have a point.


yrs,
rubato

[MajGenl.Meade]

Yes I did. It was beyond your capability to understand - but that's genetic and not my fault.

[Joe Guy]

[Lord Jim]

I believe the point missed rubato entirely.

Yes, the point has a habit of doing that...

ETA:

Actually, I think I may have hit on the explanation...

Rube, being both a scientist and inventor, has devised some sort of "anti-point suit"...

An outfit that when he puts it on, makes him absolutely impervious to logic, factual information, or common sense of any sort...

Clearly I have underestimated rube's inventive skills...(though I suspect there may be a limited market for this...)

And he may want to consider taking the suit off every once in a while...

[Big RR]

Meade--only Martha signed; was Giles out getting his clothes pressed?

[MajGenl.Meade]

He had a pressing engagement elsewhere and earlier

[Big RR]

Well I did hear he asked the authorities to help him put on more weight.

[MajGenl.Meade]

He must have been of English extraction because they added a couple of stones

[oldr_n_wsr]

I am disappointed in Bill Cosby. Part of me says "lets not rush to judgement but were there is smoke there is fire.
Over the years I have enjoyed is comedy and his views. Sad to see all this.
I am not mad, I am sad and pray for both him and his victims.

[Joe Guy]

Bill Cosby finally comes clean and explains his side of the story.

“I have been in this business for 52 years, and I’ve never seen anything like this. The reality of this situation is, I can’t speak.”


When asked what he would say to a young person who asked him if the allegations are true, Cosby replied, “I am prepared to tell this young person the truth about life. I’m not sure that they will come like that (sic). I think that many of them say, ‘Well, you’re a hypocrite, you say one thing, you say the other.’ My point is, OK, listen to me carefully. I’m telling you where the road is out. I’m telling you, where, as you’re driving, you’re going to go into water and it looks like it might only be three inches deep. But, you and your car are going to go down. Now, you want to go here or do you want to be concerned about who’s giving you the message?”