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Big RR wrote:Meade--the sad thing is, even with all the networks they broadcast the olympics on (USA, NBCSN, CNBC, MSNBC), the coverage is pretty much US centric and omits much of the preliminary bouts unless the US or some well-known from runner is involved. It's a bit better than the NBC shows (and I'll admit I don't often watch during the day, so maybe it's different then), but it's not full coverage of any sport.

The only time I recall that was on a pay cable network my friend subscribed to for the Barcelona Olympics--they had 3 channels with continuous coverage (live at late night and during the day, reruns in the evenings/nights before the new events started) and they broadcast entire events (like multiple qualifying heats in swimming or all of the shot putters regardless of how well they did). In gymnastics they showed all the events and the performances of those who didn't have a chance to medal.

As I understand it, the network getting the Olympics has to cover everything and offer their feeds to other countries (I assume of money), so they are covering it, just not choosing to broadcast it on their US networks (and with all these networks and nowhere as near a time zone problem, they could have done it).

I'd consider paying for coverage like the Barcelona Olympics had, but as I never heard of it again, I doubt it would be enough of a money maker to offer.

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here's a wiki article on the ppv https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympics_Triplecast

You can stream it for free if you have a cable provider. Download the NBC Olympics app and follow directions. You can watch all competitions either live or recorded from beginning to end. The interface is awkward for finding a particular moment but, well, it is free and picture quality is superb. The app itself is rather slow loading.

The signal for us goes from a DSL line to wireless to the devices. So no bandwidth problems.

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Yes, that's so, rubato. But I dropped the Time-Warner "Entertainment" package and according to NBC app my password for T-W doesn't give me access to their live stream. Probably it's because NBCSN is not part of my cable line-up these days.
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:Yes, that's so, rubato. But I dropped the Time-Warner "Entertainment" package and according to NBC app my password for T-W doesn't give me access to their live stream. Probably it's because NBCSN is not part of my cable line-up these days.
We have the cheapest most limited cable package you can get. ??

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We have the cheapest most limited cable package you can get. ??

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Not cheaper than a length of twin lead connected to "ANT IN" on the back of the set.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Xfinity/Comcast is my cable supplier. I have "basic" TV and "slow" internet w/wi-fi and it still costs me $61.97 per month. Unfortunately Verizon is more expensive and no other supplier has rights to my development. Oh, and no antennas of any type can be erected outside the building. BasicTalk VoIP cost me $9.99 + tax per month.

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back on topic.......
Report: 15,000 Olympic volunteers quit amid allegations of 9-hour days, no meals

By Katie Dowd

Updated 1:23 pm, Tuesday, August 16, 2016



Thirty-percent of Olympic volunteers have quit due to long hours, erratic scheduling and almost no food, according to a Canadian report.

The IOC has long relied on volunteers to put on the Olympics. In Rio, they have 50,000 unpaid volunteers helping tourists, chauffeuring officials and athletes and otherwise keeping the events running smoothly.

Although the IOC has raked in over $5.6 billion over the past four years, they consider paying workers "against the spirit of the Olympics." Sure.

According to volunteers interviewed by CBC News, providing free labor for the IOC hasn't been quite what they expected.

"Many volunteers had to quit because they had to work two weeks in a row, schedules were messed up, lots of people quit because of the food: they were told to work eight, nine hours and were only provided with a little snack," volunteer Luis Moreira told CBC News.

Others echoed this sentiment, adding they'd been asked to show up early and then were told they needed to stay late. As a result, the existing volunteers are working longer and later to cover the shifts left vacant by the 15,000 who have quit.

The Rio Olympic Committee has been recruiting volunteers from all over the world since 2014. The volunteers coming from other countries had to pay for their own airfare and accommodations.

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Two years ago we were supposed to ignore the atrocious human rights abuses going on in Russia, and the very real threat of arrest being risked by many athletes simply for being who they are, all in the name of being "above politics" and focusing on the sport, but somehow this time it has become acceptable to ignore the games themselves because kvetching about the colour of the water in the diving pool is more important.
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NBC didn't cover this either:


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this time it has become acceptable to ignore the games themselves because kvetching about the colour of the water in the diving pool is more important.
It is if there are health concerns.


The blooming of these green marine microbes was due to the inadvertent addition of a large quantity of hydrogen peroxide to the pools, which essentially inactivated the ‘chlorine’ and allowed the ubiquitous algae to grow unimpeded turning the water green and cloudy in the Rio winter heat and humidity.Hypochlorite, which is used to kill microorganisms, reacts with hydrogen peroxide, breaking it down.

ClO- + H2O2 → Cl- + H2O + O2

‘I can quite imagine, with a maintenance team that may not have had much experience running the semi-automated dosing system in a new pool, that it would be only too easy to open the “wrong” valve,’ says Richard Gymer, a scientist at the University of Cambridge, UK, who has been a volunteer pool technician at an open-air pool. ‘Hydrogen peroxide is occasionally used as an alternative for pools where people might be sensitive to 'chlorine', or where pools are run at higher-than-normal temperatures. However, to be effective, it has to be combined with UV light in the recirculation system – it's the strong UV light that kills bugs and algae, and the peroxide that removes the dead cells, sweat and debris.’

He adds that ‘it is also possible to combine UV with chlorination methods; this enables one to run pools at lower than usual levels of chorine, but it means that it doesn’t take much to wipe out the chlorine levels – pools need to be kept an eye on. Whatever the level of disinfectant, it's easy to get caught out by a rainstorm!’

Within a day or so of the pool taking on its unwelcoming hue – as well as a tell-tale whiff of hydrogen sulfide – Rio Olympics spokesperson Mario Andrada announced that algae were to blame. However, within hours the officials had changed their story and were claiming a drop in alkalinity was behind the colour change. It all seemed to be something of a conspiracy within a cover up as other explanations ranged from damaged copper piping, divers' moisturising fake tan and urine-revealing additives.

‘It's surprising how long it takes to empty and refill an Olympic pool’
Large bodies of freshwater, including swimming and diving pools, exposed to sunlight and the outdoor air are very difficult to keep clean and sterile. Their pH, temperature and levels of hypochlorite – the ‘chlorine’ – as well as other additives must be held within a small range of tolerances. If they are not, pathogenic microbes can multiply posing a health risk to those entering the water. Moreover, cloudiness caused by algae and other marine life makes being a lifeguard riskier in the event of an accident.

As Chemistry World reported last week, it is possible to ‘overshock’ a pool with chlorine and disrupt this delicate balance allowing algae to bloom. However, in this case it was the inadvertent addition of other additives that caused the unwanted colour change. The maintenance team is now draining and refilling the pools to return their normal blue hue.

‘Although chemicals can be used to adjust disinfectant levels and deal with problems, after a while there can be too much dissolved solids, and the only response can be to throw away some water and refill,’ Gymer says. ‘It's surprising how long it takes to empty and refill an Olympic pool.’




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and urine-revealing additives.
I thought those "additives" were a myth?

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Thanks rubato, I'll check that link. Not sure if it's available with my Verizon package but it may be. this sort of downloading may be the future of letting people decide for themselves what they choose to watch in big spectacles like the Olympics.

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Scooter wrote:Two years ago we were supposed to ignore the atrocious human rights abuses going on in Russia, and the very real threat of arrest being risked by many athletes simply for being who they are, all in the name of being "above politics" and focusing on the sport, but somehow this time it has become acceptable to ignore the games themselves because kvetching about the colour of the water in the diving pool is more important.

I feel badly for Brazil who can ill afford the costs. And you have to admit that overall the games have gone off pretty well. No bombings, like Atlanta had for ex. And they didn't have a horrible gargoyle scaring people at the opening ceremonies, like London:

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Finally an Olympic event that will engage Gob:

A pair of Brazilian synchronised divers will not compete with each other again after one athlete is alleged to have banished her team mate from their bedroom so she could enjoy a "marathon sex session".

Ingrid Oliveira, 20, is reported to have spent the night with canoeist Pedro Goncalves, also Brazilian, in the Olympic Village room she was supposed to be sharing with her 17-year-old diving partner Giovanna Pedroso.

The pair are said to have engaged in what South American media reports have dubbed a "marathon night of sex", fanning the flames of a row that led to the synchronised diving pair ending their partnership.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08 ... sf33488324

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The dressage competition was pretty fantastic. Won by a nice British woman (an unfortunate place of birth, no fault of hers) but the thing I noticed most clearly was that the level of skill of many riders/horses was very respected.


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rubato wrote:

The dressage competition was pretty fantastic. Won by a nice British woman (an unfortunate place of birth, no fault of hers) but the thing I noticed most clearly was that the level of skill of many riders/horses was very respected.


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Long Run wrote:Finally an Olympic event that will engage Gob:

A pair of Brazilian synchronised divers will not compete with each other again after one athlete is alleged to have banished her team mate from their bedroom so she could enjoy a "marathon sex session".

Ingrid Oliveira, 20, is reported to have spent the night with canoeist Pedro Goncalves, also Brazilian, in the Olympic Village room she was supposed to be sharing with her 17-year-old diving partner Giovanna Pedroso.

The pair are said to have engaged in what South American media reports have dubbed a "marathon night of sex", fanning the flames of a row that led to the synchronised diving pair ending their partnership.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08 ... sf33488324
Apparently synchronized diving stops at the pool's edge, and doesn't extend to muff-diving?
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Long Run wrote:Finally an Olympic event that will engage Gob:
I'd watch that!
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This is getting kinda weird:
Ryan Lochte changes details of Rio robbery story; authorities pull two of his teammates off plane


Three days after claiming that he and his teammates were robbed at gunpoint, American swimmer Ryan Lochte has tempered his initial, dramatic description of the alleged incident.

The 12-time Olympic medalist said earlier this week that one of the robbers pressed a gun to his head. On Wednesday night, he told NBC News the robber merely aimed in his direction.

His story changed at the end of a day in which Brazilian authorities – concerned about inconsistent accounts from the four U.S. swimmers – sought to keep them from leaving the country before they could be questioned further.

Police showed up at the Olympic village in the morning to confiscate the passports of Lochte and Jimmy Feigen but found neither man there.

Lochte had already returned to the U.S., they said. Feigen told the San Antonio News-Express that he was still in Brazil, adding: “I can’t talk right now.”

Later, the other two athletes were detained as they attempted to fly home.

“We can confirm that Jack Conger and Gunnar Bentz were removed from their flight to the United States by Brazilian authorities,” said Patrick Sandusky, a U.S. Olympic Committee spokesman.

Sandusky said the pair were later released by local authorities with the understanding they would talk with police on Thursday. Feigen has also agreed to make further statements to police.

With all its twists and uncertainties, the incident has captivated residents of Rio, prompting speculation about what truly happened in the early morning hours on Sunday.

Local television has replayed security video – obtained by a British newspaper – of the swimmers returning to the village shortly before 7 that morning.

Police said they are now looking at additional video from a gas station where the crime allegedly took place.

“I can’t comment on contradictions in any stories, and I can’t refute any statements that were given,” said Officer Alexandre Braga of the special police station for tourism support. “This case is delicate and receiving a lot of attention; we must be very careful.”

The news broke Sunday when Lochte’s mother told a reporter that her son had called her about the robbery.

U.S. Olympic Committee officials quickly contacted Lochte, who denied a crime had taken place. The International Olympic Committee announced that news reports of a robbery were “absolutely not true.”

But Lochte, who won gold in the 800-meter freestyle relay last week, made the first change to his story.

According to his initial account, after the swimming portion of the 2016 Summer Games ended on Saturday night, he and his teammates went to the France House to celebrate.

There had been some question about when they left; police now believe it was 5:45 a.m.

Lochte said they were returning to the village when their taxi was stopped by armed men flashing what appeared to be police badges.

“They pulled out their guns; they told the other swimmers to get down on the ground. They got down on the ground,” Lochte told NBC News. “I refused. I was like, ‘We didn’t do anything wrong, so — I’m not getting down on the ground.’

“And then the guy pulled out his gun, he cocked it, put it to my forehead and he said, ‘Get down,’ and I put my hands up. I was like, 'whatever.'”

On Wednesday, however, he told NBC that the taxi had stopped at a gas station so they could use the bathroom.

From the start, the U.S. Olympic Committee seemed cautious about his claims, beginning its first official news release with the words: “According to four members of the U.S. Olympic Swimming team …. “

Police, who subsequently interviewed the swimmers, have yet to locate the taxi driver. In the meantime, the Rio 2016 organizing committee issued an apology on Monday.

“We have requested the security authorities … need to make sure everybody is safe everywhere in the city,” spokesman Mario Andrada said. “We apologize to those involved and regret that violence is an issue in these Games.”

Regardless of growing questions about Lochte’s story, the alleged robbery added to the security concerns that have dogged these Olympics.

Two Australian rowing coaches were robbed in Ipanema, and an Olympic security officer was shot to death after taking a wrong turn into a favela. The Games’ chief of security was attacked by knife-wielding men as he left Maracana Stadium after the opening ceremony.

Stray bullets have landed in the equestrian venue in Deodoro on two occasions, and a bus carrying journalists in the area had its windows shattered. Rio officials said thrown rocks were to blame.


None of this squared with Mayor Eduardo Paes’ proclamation before the Games that his city would be “the safest place in the world.”
http://www.latimes.com/sports/olympics/ ... story.html

For me the weirdest part of this is trying to figure out a motive for why they would make this up....

It couldn't have been because they thought this would be a good way to get some publicity. If that had been the case, they would have reported it to the police or gone public about it right away. But the only one Lochte told about it was his mother, and the story would never have come out if she hadn't told a reporter about it...
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RIO DE JANEIRO — Ryan Lochte and three other U.S. swimmers were held up at gunpoint early Sunday morning.
Or maybe not:

Gas station video indicates Lochte, U.S. swimmers lied about robbery story
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Scooter I watched that attachment hoping something of the video would be shown, but no such luck. Until we can see it (and experts can see if it's been doctored) I'll reserve any judgment another than to say that I agree with jim on not seeing any motive for the guys to make this up; further, I can see a motive on the part of an embarrassed Brazilian government to cover this up and insist it did not happen. We'll just have to wait and see what develops.

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