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BoSoxGal wrote:
When I call you on what appears to be a racial bias, using the logic structure you seem to be employing in your attacks on Pakistanis, you call me names.

What's going on here? :shrug I have some ideas.
Racial bias? You're an idiot. Calling for proper investigation by the police, without them being hamstrung by political correctness, is not "racial bias".

Rotherham - The issue of child abuse in the town first came to light in 2010 when five Asian men were jailed for sexual offences against under-age girls.

A 2014 inquiry found there were more than 1,400 victims of grooming and sex exploitation in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013.

* Rochdale - The trial of nine Asian men for grooming young white girls for sex attracted widespread public outrage and sparked a national debate when they were convicted in 2012.

The gang received jail sentences of between four and 19 years for offences committed against five girls - aged between 13 and 15 - in and around Rochdale between 2008 and 2010.

The case returned to the public consciousness earlier this year when the BBC broadcast its Three Girls drama based on the experiences of some of the victims.

* Oxford - In 2013, five members of a sadistic paedophile ring were handed life sentences, while two others were each jailed for seven years at the Old Bailey.

The court heard how six girls, aged between 11 and 15, were plied with alcohol and drugs before being forced to perform sex acts.

All of the men were of Pakistani origin apart from two brothers, who were from north Africa.

* Bristol - Some 13 Somali men were jailed for more than a total of more than 100 years after they were convicted in 2014 of running an inner city sex ring.

Victims as young as 13 were preyed upon, sexually abused and trafficked across Bristol to be passed around the men's friends for money.

* Aylesbury - Six Asian men were jailed in 2015 for grooming vulnerable under-age white girls between 2006 and 2012.

The Old Bailey heard victims would be plied with alcohol and forced to perform sex acts for as little as "the price of a McDonalds".

* Peterborough - A total of 10 men were convicted of child sex crimes in the town, including "predatory" restaurant boss Mohammed Khubaib, who was originally from Pakistan.

He was jailed for 13 years at the Old Bailey in 2015, after he was found guilty of forcing a 14-year-old girl to perform a sex act on him and nine counts of trafficking for sexual exploitation, involving girls aged from 12 to 15, between 2010 and 2013.

* Newcastle - 17 men and one woman was convicted over the sexual abuse more than 100 girls some as young as 13 it emerged that many experts believe the horrific list of convictions to be merely the tip of the iceberg.

* Huddersfield - Twenty men have been found guilty of being part of grooming gang that raped and abused girls as young as 11 in Huddersfield. The men were convicted of more than 120 offences against 15 girls. Victims were plied with drink and drugs and then "used and abused at will" in a seven year "campaign of rape and abuse"
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Calling for proper investigation by the police, without them being hamstrung by political correctness,
Just what specific acts of political correctness are hamstringing the investigation or prosecution of the offenders? The cases you cited appear to indicate that the offenders in the past were prosecuted.

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If you look into the background of the cases, there were YEARS of delays in bringing prosecutions due to the police and social services not wanting to be seen as "racist".
Misplaced political correctness by Rotherham’s Labour led council combined with a staggering culture of denial allowed more than 1,400 vulnerable girls to be routinely abused by gangs of Asian men, a withering report has concluded.

Children as young as nine were groomed, trafficked and raped by members of the town’s Pakistani community, but a desperation to avoid being labelled as racist meant councillors turned a blind eye to the appalling abuse for 16 years.

A damning report, written by former Victims’ Commissioner, Louise Casey, has laid bare the true extent of the council’s failings and accused those in charge of deliberately trying to cover up scandal and silence whistle-blowers.

Just minutes after the report’s findings were published the entire Labour Cabinet of Rotherham Council resigned and Communities Secretary Eric Pickles announced he was sending in Government Commissioners to run things until new elections could be held next year.

Inspectors also found there had been a widespread reluctance among officials to address the problem for fear of being labelled racist, something which the report said had helped fuel the rise of the far-right in the area.

Ms Casey wrote: “The issue of race is contentious, with staff and members lacking the confidence to tackle difficult issues for fear of being seen as racist or upsetting community cohesion.

“By failing to take action against the Pakistani heritage male perpetrators of CSE in the borough, the Council has inadvertently fuelled the far right and allowed racial tensions to grow, it has done a great disservice to the Pakistani heritage community and the good people of Rotherham as a result.

“This has allowed perpetrators to remain at large, has let victims down, and perversely, has allowed the far right to try and exploit the situation. These may have been unintended consequences but the impact remains the same and reaches into the present day.”

The report also criticised the role of the police in the scandal, stating that there were “numerous occasions when girls were not believed”.
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gob--I understand our systems are different, but I would think rape is a police problem, and not one for a Council (which I presume is a local government organization). If the people committing the crimes were not being charged, then I think you are absolutely right. But when I read things like "failing to take action against the Pakistani heritage male perpetrators" I am not certain what the complaint is--is it that the perpetrators were not identified as being of Pakistani heritage (and what difference does that make except in a suspect description?) or that their transgressions were routinely ignored and they were not prosecuted. And it the latter, there is, I agree, no apparent excuse for it. these are criminal acts which are th eprovince of the police and courts.

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I think this has to do with “ investigative discretion”. The police do not ignore crimes they can see but when it comes to investigation of possible crimes things often get political. In these cases it seems that leads were ignored until there was actual criminal proof because without hard evidence it may seem like they are targeting the groups that these criminals belong to instead of the criminals themselves.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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