Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

[Econoline]

This is purely a commercial decision. Eskimo Pie's parent company, Dreyer’s Grand Ice Cream, reckons it can make more money by calling it something other than "Eskimo Pie" and they're welcome to try. Why shouldn't they?

[Bicycle Bill]

As long as you brought up the Minnesota Vikings, rubato, I thought I'd mention that the Minnesota Twins have removed a statue of former owner Calvin Griffith from the courtyard outside of Target Field.  Griffith was the owner of what was then the Washington Senators when they relocated to the Twin Cities.  In a series of remarks made at a meeting of the Lions Club of Waseca, MN in September 1978, he was quoted in the Minneapolis Tribune (now the Minneapolis StarTrib) the next day as saying that he moved the team from Washington to the Twin Cities "when I found out you only had 15,000 blacks here."

That comment was prompted by Griffith's response to a seemingly innocuous question from a Lion who wanted to know why Griffith had brought the old Washington Senators to Minnesota in 1961.  Griffith responded by attacking sportswriters for suggesting the Twins might leave Minnesota someday.

"They've got all the ink and all the typewriters but they don't have all the truth," Griffith said.  "There's no damn place in the country worth moving too [sic].  They talk about us moving to New Orleans, but what's wrong with that is ..."

At that point, Griffith interrupted himself, lowered his voice and asked if there were any blacks around.  After he looked around the room and assured himself that his audience was white, Griffith resumed his answer.

"I'll tell you why we came to Minnesota," he said.  "It was when I found out you only had 15,000 blacks here.  Black people don't go to ball games, but they'll fill up a rassling [sic] ring and put up such a chant it'll scare you to death.  It's unbelievable.  We came here because you've got good, hard-working, white people here."

Elsewhere, a statue of Francis Scott Key was brought down in San Francisco — although he was the person who wrote the poem that later became our National Anthem, he also apparently owned a slave at some point or another, so he is just one more white racist bastard who is now deemed persona non grata; and in Portland, Oregon, a statue of George Washington was toppled and its head wrapped in an American flag which was then set on fire.  I swear to God, these idiots won't be satisfied until the Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor is removed and melted down for the copper.

-"BB"-

[Guinevere]

Old, cranky, cis, white men

Its okay dearies, your time in the sun will be up soon.

[rubato]

And yet I, and not you, can make my points without wishing or celebrating the deaths of people I merely disagree with.

yrs,
rubato

[Guinevere]

And yet I, and not you, can make my points without wishing or celebrating the deaths of people I merely disagree with.

yrs,
rubato

Where exactly did I say that I wished or celebrated the death of people that I disagree with? Because you’re making shit up.

I have a long long history at this place and it’s predecessors of making my points without making personal attacks. You do not.

[RayThom]

And all of this while our friends to the North are celebrating National Indigenous Peoples Day.

We salute you.

[rubato]

And yet I, and not you, can make my points without wishing or celebrating the deaths of people I merely disagree with.

yrs,
rubato

Where exactly did I say that I wished or celebrated the death of people that I disagree with? Because you’re making shit up.

I have a long long history at this place and it’s predecessors of making my points without making personal attacks. You do not.

Post by Guinevere » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:50 am
Old, cranky, cis, white men

Its okay dearies, your time in the sun will be up soon.

memory issues?

yrs,
rubato

[Guinevere]

None whatsoever.

[dales]

Old, cranky, cis, white men

Its okay dearies, your time in the sun will be up soon.

Misandry (/mɪˈsændri/) is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against men or boys in general.[1][2][3] Misandry may be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, gynocentrism, matriarchy, belittling of men, violence against men, and sexual objectification.

[Joe Guy]

Bye bye to the Eskimo Pie
Mrs Butterworth is banished - Aunt Jemima's proscribed
Uncle Ben is in the cooker but he's staying inside
Singing, "I will change my name please don't cry
I will change my name please don't cry".....

[Guinevere]

Old, cranky, cis, white men

Its okay dearies, your time in the sun will be up soon.

Misandry (/mɪˈsændri/) is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against men or boys in general.[1][2][3] Misandry may be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, gynocentrism, matriarchy, belittling of men, violence against men, and sexual objectification.

An example of how men have been trying to shut down women for decades if not centuries. If you don’t like what we have to say, call us witches, bitches, and men-hating feminazis. And it’s not even close to the truth. Nor will it or has it ever stopped me from saying what needs to be said.

And by the way, I even like men, some I flat out love.

[dales]

The ageism, sexism, and racism of your post I found particularly offensive.

I do agree with women being marginalized for centuries.

[Bicycle Bill]

An example of how men have been trying to shut down women for decades if not centuries. If you don’t like what we have to say, call us witches, bitches, and men-hating feminazis. And it’s not even close to the truth. Nor will it or has it ever stopped me from saying what needs to be said.

And by the way, I even like men, some I flat out love.

Yet when I said something like the above, I got THIS in reply:

Blah, blah, blah.  Just the latest of many posts that demonstrate your blatant misogyny.  You may tell yourself it’s your decisions, but it’s your ‘tude, dude.

-"BB"-

[Gob]

They call themselves Inuits not Eskimo. And besides, it is only disrespectful if they say so. Has anyone asked them or is this just racism of a different kind, pretending to.speak for them? “Poor little fellows, too cold to think for themselves”

Yrs,
Rubato

Oh Christ, I agree with rubato.

[MajGenl.Meade]

The Circumpolar Council held a referendum. The question: "Do you choose to be called Esquimau or Inuit?"

Many returned the answer, "You pick" the spelling of which was corrected by the Council.

[Big RR]

I honestly don't understand the dispute; this is a private company making a decision that, it believes, will generate continued sales of their product (and hopefully an increase in them). They can couch it in all the good intentions they want, but this iis an economic decision.

FWIW, I never considered "eskimo" to have any racism, but if inuits (or whatever other indigenous peoples) are offended by it, I see no reason to continue using it and offending them; I honestly can't understand why that term is so important to them that they would continue to use it and risk that offense--it's not like they're asking you to change your name. If I've used the word "eskimo" is the last year a dozen times, I'd be surprised--choosing to not use it is no real sacrifice.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Husky Pie? With lemon ice! Yum!

[RayThom]

Travelin' Man
Ricky Nelson

I'm a travelin' man and I've made a lot of stops
All over the world
And in every part I own the heart
Of at least one lovely girl...

If you're ever in Alaska stop and see
My cute little Indigenous Person-o.

Yeah, it looses a lot in translation. Another song destined for the scrap heap of failed PC correction.

[Joe Guy]

Here are the ingredients of an Eskimo Pie:

Ingredients: Ingredients: Dairy Product Solids, Skim Milk, Sugar, Coconut Oil, Corn Syrup, Cream, Palm Oil, Cocoa, Maltodextrin, Reduced Minerals Whey, Propylene Glycol Monostearate, Guar Gum, Cellulose Gel, Monoglycerides, Milk, Chocolate, Carob Bean Gum, Cellulose Gum, Natural Flavor, Soy Lecithin.

They might want to change the name to Shit on a Stick. Then the Inuits will no longer be offended.

[TPFKA@W]

They might want to change the name to Shit on a Stick. Then the Inuits will no longer be offended.

They can use the ones which Scooter declares every one who disagrees with his narrow-minded approach has up their asses. Recycling is good for the environment. (Maybe not the barbed ones.)