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I was very impressed with the US roll out, done in the face of some very severe adversity on the matter.

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Nearly all of the recent deaths from Covid-19 in the US have been unvaccinated individuals, according to initial data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The director of the CDC, Dr Rachel Walensky, said at a recent news briefing that people who are not vaccinated against the coronavirus “remain susceptible, especially from the transmissible Delta variant, and are particularly at risk for severe illness and death”.

She continued, “Preliminary data from several states over the last few months suggest that 99.5 per cent of deaths from Covid-19 in the United States were in unvaccinated people.”

No timeframe was provided for the data by Dr Walensky on 7 July, but the findings are in line with other assessments about the benefits of being vaccinated against the coronavirus.

For example, analysis from last month by the AP discovered that 0.8 per cent of the covid deaths in May were among people confirmed to be fully vaccinated against Covid.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 81306.html
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The problem is, the person in the upper picture probably has no idea what the term 'control group' means. Other than that, it's a really good meme.
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That meme deserves much wider circulation, Scooter.

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The cull of the stupid continues;
A fit and healthy 42-year-old father with a love of rock climbing and bodybuilding has died of Covid-19 after refusing the vaccine because he thought he would be OK if he caught the virus, his twin sister has said.

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John Eyers, a construction expert from Southport, Merseyside, had been climbing the Welsh mountains and wild camping one month before his death last week, which came exactly four weeks after he tested positive.
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His twin sister Jenny McCann from London said he was the 'fittest, healthiest person I know' and had thought he would only have a 'mild illness' if he contracted coronavirus, adding that he had a 'belief in his own immortality'.

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Before going onto a ventilator in hospital, Mr Eyers told his consultant that he wished he had been vaccinated - and died in intensive care after suffering from an infection and organ failure, leaving behind a daughter aged 19.

Mother-of-two Mrs McCann, of Pinner, North West London, posted a series of tweets on Monday, saying: 'My 42-year-old old twin brother died in ITU of Covid-19 last week. He died exactly four weeks after testing positive.

'He was the fittest, healthiest person I know. He was climbing Welsh mountains and wild camping four weeks before his death. The only pre-existing health condition he had was the belief in his own immortality.

'He thought if he contracted Covid-19 he would be OK. He thought he would have a mild illness. He didn't want to put a vaccine on his body. His was pumped full of every drug in the hospital. They threw everything at him.

'But eventually the bedfellow of Covid-19, infection and organ failure, claimed his life. Before he was ventilated he told his consultant that he wished he had been vaccinated. That he wished he had listened. His death is a tragedy.

'It shouldn't have happened. He leaves a mum and dad, a sister (me), and a 19-year-old daughter. My two children have lost their fun uncle. The Uncle who would always play with them.

'The uncle that dressed up as Father Christmas on Christmas Day. My mum has lost her baby boy. My niece, her much loved and needed Dad. This shouldn't have happened. My mum wants people to know about John. For his story to save someone's life. For pain and loss to drive people to get a vaccine.'
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Doctors are saying younger, sicker, quicker. There is not yet enough evidence to say whether the Delta variant is actually worse or whether it is just due to the fact that younger people are vaccinated in lower numbers.

A good NYT piece here.

Apart from that issue, the sentence from that piece which should be shouted from every rooftop is this:
A vast majority of hospitalized patients nationwide — roughly 97 percent — are unvaccinated.

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And yet you routinely see unvaccinateds ignorantly blithering that the 1-2% of vaccinated who do get sick are proof that the vaccines don't work.

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His twin sister Jenny McCann from London said he was the 'fittest, healthiest person I know' and had thought he would only have a 'mild illness' if he contracted coronavirus, adding that he had a 'belief in his own immortality'.
I know a few like this, and statistically speaking he was right, he was a low risk person (at least based on what we know about the basic COVID; as Andy notes, the data are still out on Delta). This anecdotal story will likely serve to get some people to get vaccinated, so a good thing. But the self-selecting fact that the unvaccinated have a much higher percentage of young, healthy people compared to the vaccinated who trend older and less healthy, reinforces the effectiveness of the vaccines. Even though the vaccinated are much less healthy overall and make up the significant majority of adults in this country, they are a very small percentage of those suffering from a COVID infection.

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Does anyone besides me find it interesting that many of the people who claim the original vaccines will be ineffective against the variants because the virus has mutated (which is just another word for 'evolved') are the same people who deny the concept of evolution in higher species, specifically Homo sapiens?
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Maybe we should start handing out COVID awards to dead anti-COVID-vaxxers.

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Sometimes I don't understand people; if everyone got the shot, this thing would be over. Vaccination is not a new thing. The idea goes back at least two hundred years. George Washington vaccinated his entire army for smallpox, and he used live vaccines. Some of his soldiers died. Today's vaccines have almost no risk compared to Washington's time, but the same calculation still holds the benefit significantly out weights the risk. Get the damn shot.

For the sake of the common good, someone needs grow some balls and demand that people be vaccinated. Hopefully, that will happen before this virus mutates into something much worse.

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My brain is in meltdown. I'm going to write a sentence I never thought I could write.

Lib: I agree with everything you just said in your post.

Do you blame Trump in any way for the mass reluctance to get the vaccine? (Hint: yes.)

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Another anti-vaxxer learns the truth the hard way.
An anti-vaxxer nightclub boss has died of Covid-19 after mocking people for getting the 'experimental' vaccine and warning of a 'big pharma' conspiracy in hundreds of Facebook messages.
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David Parker, 56, passed away at Darlington Memorial Hospital in County Durham on Monday despite having no underlying health conditions.

He had contracted the virus just weeks after condemning the vaccine and pharmaceutical companies in social media posts.


The family of Mr Parker, who spent a decade working as the manager of Club Louis in North Yorkshire, are said to now be urging everyone to get the jab.

It follows John Eyers, a fit and healthy 42-year-old father with a love of rock climbing and bodybuilding, dying of Covid-19 last week after refusing the vaccine.

Cambridge University graduate Leslie Lawrenson, 58, also passed away at his home in Bournemouth on July 2, just nine days after releasing footage to Facebook explaining why Covid was 'nothing to be afraid of'.

A further 86 deaths were recorded yesterday, similar to the 85 announced at the same time last week, bringing the UK total to 130,086.
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It’s like a weird kind of suicide - throwing away 20, 30, 40 years of life over arrogance and willful ignorance.

I guess the only upside is all the good jobs opening up for younger folk.
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My governor has had it with these people:

GAH!

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