Getting vaccinated

[Gob]

Oh how utterly wonderful, good research by the anti-Vax brigade...

Confused anti-vaccine protesters stormed what they thought was a major BBC building on Monday, apparently unaware the corporation largely moved out almost a decade ago.

Rather than target the BBC’s news operation, which they hold responsible for promoting Covid-19 vaccines, a handful of protesters gained access to Television Centre in west London, which is now predominantly rented by ITV to film its daytime shows such as Good Morning Britain and This Morning.

The circular building was vacated by the BBC in 2013 and has since been converted into flats and a private members’ club.

The BBC retained three studios on the site under its commercial for-profit Studioworks arm, which are largely rented to other broadcasters and provide the permanent base for many of ITV’s shows. However, the vast majority of London-based BBC staff and its news operation are based five miles away at the corporation’s Broadcasting House on Portland Place.

The Loose Women co-host Charlene White thanked the security team who kept protesters out of the studio while her ITV programme was on air on Monday afternoon.

“Not sure what protesters were hoping to achieve, but all they would’ve found was me, Jane, Nadia and Penny on Loose Women talking about the menopause,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... -moved-out

[Gob]

You know what I hope....

Tom Hanks' son Chet posted an Instagram video pretending to encourage people to have a COVID vaccine - only to then launch into an anti-vaxxer rant.

Chet - whose dad and actress mom Rita Wilson were the first big stars to catch the virus in March 2020 - posted a video, captioned 'super important PSA,' in which he addressed the ongoing pandemic.

He began by encouraging his followers to take action by getting the vaccine, only to quickly change his tone.

'I suggest to all my followers, you guys, set an appointment and get the vaccine first thing -- PSYCH!' he said. 'B***h! If it ain't broke don't fix it! I never had COVID. Y'ain't sticking me with that motherf***ing needle!'

The video began with Hank saying that Americans needed to rally together to curb the spread of the virus, especially with the Delta variant on the rise.

'I've been on the fence about this for awhile, that's why I never spoke on it, but with the amount of people I know recently that have gotten COVID, and with the numbers rising, I think it's important for me to say I got the vaccine, I think everybody should,' Hanks said in a convincing tone. 'It's really important that we all do this.'

However, about halfway through the video Hanks revealed that he believed the pandemic was a hoax, calling COVID-19 'the motherf***ing flu'.

[BoSoxGal]

Spent the morning watching local and national public health officials and hospital administrators being interviewed about the new covid surge - the numbers are astonishing, particularly the rate of exponential growth in positivity and hospitalizations - the exponential growth in deaths will be rolling along shortly. Happy 4th of July America!

Good news: in several months there will be lots of properties available in Florida and elsewhere in unvaccinated America, investors take heed! (However thanks to the IPCC report, beware that it’s a short term investment to buy any properties in Florida.)

Bad news: Too many Americans are freedumb obsessed idiots who have ensured we will never get free of this pandemic and must live with the substantial risk that an even deadlier variant that escapes the vaccine will arise.

[Scooter]

[Gob]

Stevie Nicks has cancelled her solo concerts for 2021, citing her fear of catching Covid-19.



The Fleetwood Mac star said: “While I’m vaccinated, at my age I am still being extremely cautious and for that reason have decided to skip the five performances I had planned for 2021.”

She added: “These are challenging times with challenging decisions that have to be made. I want everyone to be safe and healthy and the rising Covid cases should be of concern to all of us.”

Nicks had been due to perform at festivals in California, Colorado, Texas and Louisiana.

The last of those events, New Orleans jazz and heritage festival, has been cancelled outright, with organisers citing the “current exponential growth of new Covid cases in New Orleans and the region and the ongoing public health emergency”. Louisiana has one of the lowest rates of vaccine uptake in the US, and experienced 16,000 new cases last weekend.

[ex-khobar Andy]

There was a time when if Stevie Nicks had told me to do something I probably would have done it. If there is one old fence sitter who gets the vaccine because Ms Nicks says it's OK, then it's a plus.

There's a good Atlantic piece by a doctor about the growing mood among medical staff that they have had enough of sacrificing their own well being and health - and sometimes dying - because some dickhead somewhere refuses to get vaccinated. I don't think it's prevalent but I can understand it. Not a long piece but definitely worth five minutes of your time.

I'll just quote the first two paragraphs:

On social media, I’ve been seeing sentiments that I never thought I’d see anyone express in a public forum. People who choose to be unvaccinated should not be offered lung transplants. What if people with COVID-19 who didn’t get the vaccine have to wait in the Emergency Department until everyone else is seen? Should unvaccinated patients just be turned away?

These are harsh, angry feelings. And some of the people giving voice to them are doctors.

[BoSoxGal]

I understand those frustrations.

As to the lung transplants - livers are generally not given to active alcoholics for similar reasons, the patient won’t safeguard and cherish the precious resource. I suspect that given the choice of offering the same set of donor lungs to an innocent sufferer of a lung disease not linked to behavior versus a vaccine refuser suffering covid absent any other differentials the UNOS people would likely prioritize the former over the latter. Usually there are other factors that make the decision obvious - one patient more critical, proximity to organs, other variables.

Most of the medical industry as presently constituted relies on illness derived largely from poor lifestyle choices for business and profit. Will all the doctors stop treating cancers and heart disease and diabetes?

It’s cruel what these vaccine refusers are doing to our medical corps. But they don’t get to choose who to treat - this is a fundamental aspect of the Hippocratic oath.

[Big RR]

Yep, it goes with the job. Just like keeping attorney client privilege is kind a part of the attorney's job. It's not always something you enjoy, but that's what you chose to do.

[Crackpot]

Forgive me but attorney client privilege is not hazardous toy your health.

[BoSoxGal]

Forgive me but attorney client privilege is not hazardous toy your health.

That’s just not true.

DISGRUNTLED CLIENT ARRESTED IN NYC LAWYER'S STABBING MURDER: NYPD

There are many cases in the annals of attorneys - and judges - being murdered by clients/litigants.

A matter of life and death: Bar associations respond to recent attacks on lawyers, judges

[Crackpot]

And that is not the same as being exposed daily to life threatening viruses.

[BoSoxGal]

Doctors and other medical professionals kill far more patients than the exceedingly tiny number of their ranks that lose their lives due to on the job exposures - medical error is the third leading cause of death in the USA, killing tens of thousands yearly. Meanwhile, medical professionals - in particular doctors- remain among the highest paid workers in the country.

Laughing off the risks endured by lawyers is par for the course - just another joker who holds them in contempt until they or a loved one really needs one. I measure the comment with the esteem it demands.

[Big RR]

And CP, that takes its toll in its own way--from heart disease and high blood pressure to mental conditions. Sometimes living with the requirements of the law are not easy. I'm sure most lawyers could tell stories of the negative effects of zealously representing clients and keeping their confidences, but it comes with the territory.

[BoSoxGal]

Speaking of medical error - or rather, crime:

A nurse in Germany is suspected of injecting thousands of people with saline solution instead of Covid vaccine.
Reuters

Tue 10 Aug 2021 20.12 EDT

Authorities in northern Germany have appealed to thousands of people to get another shot of Covid vaccine after a police investigation found that a Red Cross nurse may have injected them with a saline solution.

The nurse is suspected of injecting salt solution into people’s arms instead of genuine doses at a vaccination centre in Friesland – a rural district near the North Sea coast – in the early spring.

“I am totally shocked by this episode,” Sven Ambrosy, a local councillor, said on Facebook as local authorities issued the call on Tuesday to about 8,600 residents who may have been affected.

While saline solution is harmless, most people who got vaccinated in Germany in March and April when the suspected switch took place are elderly and at high risk of catching Covid.

Police investigator Peter Beer, speaking earlier at a news conference covered by German media, said that based on witness statements there was “a reasonable suspicion of danger”.

The motive of the nurse, who was not named, was not clear but she had aired sceptical views about vaccines in social media posts, police investigators said.

It was not immediately clear whether the suspect had been arrested or charged in the case, which according to broadcaster NDR has been handed to a special unit that investigates politically motivated crimes.

Local police declined to comment outside normal working hours.

[Crackpot]

And CP, that takes its toll in its own way--from heart disease and high blood pressure to mental conditions. Sometimes living with the requirements of the law are not easy. I'm sure most lawyers could tell stories of the negative effects of zealously representing clients and keeping their confidences, but it comes with the territory.

That is the point no law regulation or idea should be a suicide pact.

At some point ones refusal to mitigate their own transmissibility of disease becomes a problem for the public at large. (See typhoid Mary)

By no means is it a easy and clear line to define but it does exist even though it has yet to be clearly drawn.

[Big RR]

CP--True, but using Typhoid Mary as your example belies this; she was someone who was infected (without symptoms) and spread the disease. With covid, at the very best, the unvaccinated may be spreading the disease, as would (so the experts tell us) the vaccinated. And who do they spread it to? For the most part, the unvaccinated. We have the ability to mitigate our own risk, and if they refuse to avail themselves of it, so be it. Yes, there are some who cannot be vaccinated, but under even the best of circumstances they have to protect themselves (likely by wearing an N95 mask in public); further, we shoudl be stepping up the pace to getting the vaccine available to children. And while there is a risk that the disease may mutate into a more virile form if contracted by the unvaccinated, I honestly wouldn't worry about that until much more of the word is vaccinated. Mutations are a numbers game and the more people who contract it (and there are millions, if not billions, of unvaccinated persons worldwide), the better the chance of a dangerous mutation; any virile forms are far more likely to come from abroad than be home grown.

IMHO, there are a lot of good reasons for the unvaccinated to get the vaccine, but it will not happen while we let them call the shots and cater to them by starting mask mandates, etc. And if they get sick, they'll have only themselves to blame.

Yes, the people who treat them will have some risk, but that is part and parcel of clinical medicine.

[Crackpot]

That is true until the virus mutates into something that the vaccine does not defend against and every person who does not get the vaccine without good cause is contributing to that chance. The Kicker? It is the hospitals over crowded with fuckhead too self absorbed to get the shot are going to be ground zero.

[Big RR]

I areas where the virus is ramant and the hospitals are that overcrowded, it is up to the state to mandate the vaccine. Sadly, of those states, few are up to it.

[MGMcAnick]

My eight year old granddaughter is not eligible for vaccination at her age. Yesterday she tested positive for covid. So far her symptoms have been light. Both of her parents are involved in health professions, and all have been very careful from the start. Her summer day camp ended well over a week ago, so there is no clue where she got it.

School starts tomorrow, UNMASKED, unless the local school board mandates it. Ours has not, yet. Many boards did last year, and were sued by idiots whose kids "wanted breathe God's air". One of the defeated sewers is now running for our school board. Our democrat governor's hands were tied from making another mandate after she shut all the schools down March of 2020 and pissed off the republican state legislature.

Students on buses will wear masks due to federal mandate, but once off the bus, anything goes. Well almost anything.

[Burning Petard]

I firmly believe individuals have a right to not wear a mask. I also firmly believe no one has a right to make other people sick. Individuals have been chargedwith attempted murder for intentionally exposing an other to AIDS. How come nobody protests the purely cosmetic rule of "no shoes, no shirt, no service"? The test for Covid-19 is a "trailing indicator" that is, it gives you information about the past, a negative test DOES NOT mean you have not become infected in the time between the test and when you are given the results.

A little book I found interesting, but never got much national attention: What's the Matter With Kansas by Thomas Frank. even though it was on the NY Times best seller list for more than 4 months, back in 2004. Wikipedia says: "Frank also claims a bitter divide between 'moderate' and 'conservative' Kansas Republicans (whom he labels "Mods" and "Cons") as an archetype for the future of politics in America, in which fiscal conservatism becomes the universal norm and political war is waged over a handful of hot-button cultural issues."

Sound familiar? MGMc,I really, really hope your granddaughter pulls out of this OK. All these kids deserve better.

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