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Who do you want to be king?

1. William
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2.Charles
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3. Harry
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4. Oboma
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Total votes: 7

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One thing that has been made clear is that whatever happens, The Bowles Woman will never have the title "Queen"....
Jim--from what I read she would get that title (Queen consort?) automatically (much like Prince Phillip got the title Prince Consort); has the law been changed?

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She'll be "Princess Consort" not Queen:
She'll be 'Princess Camilla,' not Queen, says palace

Even as she charms crowds on tour Down Under, Prince Charles' wife, Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, faces an awkward future with an awkward title when her husband becomes king, according to his official website.

An otherwise unnoticed statement on princeofwales.gov.uk, which reiterates what has been said since Charles and Camilla wed in 2005, is suddenly getting attention in the U.K., where the Brits are ever alert to any talk about what happens when the Prince of Wales becomes King Charles III and his wife becomes ... well, what?

"It is intended that The Duchess will be known as HRH The Princess Consort when The Prince of Wales accedes to The Throne," is the bland answer to that question under the FAQ section of the website, which was just redesigned and launched last week.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/peop ... e/1700083/
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In that link:
It is up to Charles to decide this [what title Camilla would have], but a modern monarch is well advised to consider the views of the people and the government of the day. After all, look what happened to a previous King Charles (off with his head).
Somehow I doubt a guy as whipped as Charles wouldn't agree with allowing his wife to be called whatever she wants, even with what happened to the first king that shared his name. After all, Cameron is no Cromwell.

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Charles might not become King Charles III. The Monarch can choose any of their given names upon ascending to the throne.

Charles, Philip, Arthur or George
Charles has held titles throughout his life, as the grandson of the monarch, the son of the monarch and in his own right. There has been speculation as to what regnal name the Prince will choose upon his succession to the throne. If he keeps his current first name, he will be known as Charles III. However, it was reported in 2005 that Charles has suggested he may choose to reign as George VII in honour of his maternal grandfather, and to avoid association with the Stuart kings Charles I (who was beheaded) and Charles II (who was known for his playboy lifestyle), as well as to be sensitive to the memory of Bonnie Prince Charlie, who was called "Charles III" by his supporters. Charles's office responded that "no decision has been made".

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Charles might not become King Charles III. The Monarch can choose any of their given names upon ascending to the throne.
He'll pick whichever name The Bowles Woman tells him to...
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George it is

Charles - no, for reasons given

Philip - no, that's dad, the hated Spaniard king of Elizabethan times (the first one) and a nancy sort of name

Arthur? Absolutely a non-starter. There's only one King Arthur. Besides, if he used that name he'd sound like a Dudley Moore movie remake in which he loses all his money and his wife wants to have a baby.
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Arthur? Absolutely a non-starter. There's only one King Arthur. Besides, if he used that name he'd sound like a Dudley Moore movie remake in which he loses all his money and his wife wants to have a baby.
Well, that should be, for the original Arthur was never English even though the modern day English seemed to have adopted him. He did not start out as Welsh, but that would be what he would be consider today. Arthur was most likely a Romanized Celtic General or war lord. He and his descendants resisted the German invaders in a slow fighting retreat across the island until they reached the western mountains where they were able to hold off the Anglo Saxons. Gob comes from heroic stock. At any rate, can there be an English Arthur II when there never was a an English Arthur I?
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Being "English" doesn't have much to do with it. Sweyn, Cnut (a well known typo) and his boys (Danish), two Williams and a Henry (Norman), Matilda and Stephen (also Norman), the Angovines, Louis VIII (Frog), the Stuarts (Scots), William of Orange (Dutch), the first two Georges (Hanoverians), and Charlie's father is Greek. Speaking English isn't even an absolute requirement (Richard the Lionheart and George I).

Mind, the "English" monarchy is reckoned from Alfred (himself not as "English" as some would mean it) and he came long after any putative "Arthur". What is involved here though is not history but perception. Aside from my joke about Arthur II, I doubt that any English king would take that name because of the popular connotations (amongst those who care about such things) - whether plain King Arthur (a no-no) or Arthur II (inaccurate as you point out), Charles would be excoriated. He might enjoy that
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I wouldn't put it past him to go with "Arthur"...

And then Chlamydia could change her name to "Guinevere"...
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...and which poor bugger would be Lancelot?
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Well, if it were back in Diana time, it might have been Dodi. and then Camilla could have been Morgan La Fey.

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Lord Jim wrote:I wouldn't put it past him to go with "Arthur"...

And then Chlamydia could change her name to "Guinevere"...
Oh God no.

I don't have any respect for how she or Charles conducted themselves when they were married to other people, and lord knows, sometimes you don't marry the right person. I'm also sure Charles most likely married to satisfy the Queen and not himself. But I do think the two of them seem reasonably happy together and that's a good thing, especially at their ages.
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Lord Jim wrote:She'll be "Princess Consort" not Queen:
She will be Queen consort, just as she is now Princess of Wales. It has been decided that she will use the title Princess Consort, just as it was decided that she would use the title Duchess of Cornwall, based on a subsidiary title of the Prince of Wales.

And I always find it fascinating that much as Americans stand on the irrelevancy of the British monarchy, yet this thread has now extended to three pages, having been contributed to exclusively by people residing in the United States. Even with an OP as moronic as the one profered by our resident idiot.
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She won't be queen consort, just as Prince Phillip is not King Consort. She will be titled whatever the Privy Council and the sovereign head decides and it seems that Princess Consort is the agreed term that will be used.

She will probably be happy with that considering that the tabloid press would prefer her to be titled "HRH Minging Old Horse-faced Homewrecker".

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I always find it fascinating that much as Americans stand on the irrelevancy of the British monarchy
I'm a great fan and supporter of The Monarchy, especially Her Majesty...

And I believe William shows all the signs of having the qualities needed for a 21st Century King...

I just don't care much for Chuck "I wish I was a tampon" Windsor and Chlamydia Barker-Bowels...
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Pretty sure we fought a bloody, brutal and costly war to be rid of those people. The fawning over "royalty" (especially by Americans) makes me ill.
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“You may accompany me my good sir should you be in any doubt, though you may find it embarrassing as a parent to gaze upon your daughter during the examination. Why sir, when I attended the Princess Alice in her teen years, Crown Prince Albert himself declined to be present. ‘If I cannot trust you, dear Lord Comber, then no man of all Her Majesty’s Empire is to be relied upon’ he said to me.”
Well you know how Americans are—once they’ve made it clear they are free from all pretensions of aristocracy they fall over themselves to toady to a title, false or otherwise. The result was that four minutes later as rain began to lash the deck I was headed alone for young Melissa’s cabin, ready to run any blockade to reach a safe and welcoming harbour. I thrust open the door and lurched unsteadily into her cabin to find my tasty morsel huddled in her bunk, her left breast winking fetchingly at me from a gap in her flannel dressing gown.
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You're not fooling anyone Gen'l...

You just wanted an excuse to post this:
her left breast winking fetchingly at me from a gap in her flannel dressing gown.
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Lord Jim wrote:You're not fooling anyone Gen'l...

You just wanted an excuse to post this:
her left breast winking fetchingly at me from a gap in her flannel dressing gown.
Well at least I was trying to cover it up. You, on the other paw, have revealed your naked intent, sir! :nana
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