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wesw wrote:if the reports are true, I have a hard time understanding why the students would not have rushed the guy.
Maybe it had something to do with the fact that the shooter had weapons and was killing people with them.
wesw wrote:I can t imagine my friends and I, or my son and his friends, getting on the ground and waiting to be judged and shot.
Things are a lot different in person than they are in your head.
wesw wrote:have we become, or taught our kids to become, sheep who go quietly to slaughter?
Same as above.
wesw wrote:I wish that those veterans in the class were armed. I wish that many of the teachers at my daughters school were armed.
I wish the shooter wasn't armed.
I wish that we would rid our streets of gangs and Mexican and bibbily bobbily boo......
I wish that we could all join hands and sing in perfect harmony.

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I guess you are a sheep, joe.

don t judge what my actions would be, by what yours would be.

my life experiences are far different than yours.

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wesw wrote:......

don t judge what my actions would be, by what yours would be.

my life experiences are far different than yours.
I'm not judging what you have imagined that you might have done in Roseburg - and I didn't even say what I would have done. I'm simply saying that it's impossible to know what you or anyone else would do in a situation like that without having been there.

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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Which regional and political group did this guy belong to, after all he was trying to make the country a better place by eliminating as many
Christians as he could. John Brown of the twenty first century?
John Brown planned and executed the plan for the capture of a Federal arsenal at Harper's Ferry in the expectation that black slaves would rally to him in order to be armed for the insurrection that would eventually free all the blacks held in the south. He did this in conjunction with a number of armed supporters including two free black men. As bad fortune might have it, their first victim was a free black man of Harper's Ferry.

Chris Harper-Mercer was a lone gunman, emotionally disturbed - a terrorist thug who wanted only to kill people at random. His question is irrelevant - he randomly chose the people and place for his act of selfish insanity.

The purpose of your posting escapes me entirely. What possible connection can you draw between these two people?


Roof is a white southern conservative, but this guy is just some lone nut. It was continually pointed out who roof was to generate feelings of quilt among of white southerners; it was never said but the implication was there. However, the world view of this new shooter is not important, hypocrisy. I would bet he is a liberal; from what I have seen on the web anti-Christian sentiment is common among liberals.
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Guinevere wrote:Meade, please stop feeding the troll!

To you I am a troll because I say things you don’t like. I have no desire to upset anyone, but when something is bothering me I am going to get it off my chest. Sorry I mean no offense to you or anyone else, personally.
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:

Umpqua Community College is a posted Gun Free Zone but allows concealed carry under Oregon law. The college security page states the following:


“Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited.

Possession of knives with a blade longer than 4” is prohibited.

Brandishing weapons is prohibited.

Misuse of personal defensive weapons – e.g., pepper spray, etc. is prohibited. The owner is responsible and accountable for any misuse of these devices.”

The college is located on the North Umpqua River and serves Roseburg and the greater Douglas County area. The college was established in 1964 and educates close to 20,000 full and part-time students

This story is breaking and will be updated as more information becomes available.

Wow, who would send their kids to school in a place that needs to state that? Does the fucking fact that A FUCKING SCHOOL needs to post such disclaimers not make you doubt the sanity of your country?
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Wow, who would send their kids to school in a place that needs to state that? Does the fucking fact that A FUCKING SCHOOL needs to post such disclaimers not make you doubt the sanity of your country?

You want crazy, Gob............I'll show you crazy!


Nunchuk-wielding shampoo thief charged in bus-based sword attack

Seattle woman accused of chasing man with sword after chance clash on downtown bus

BY LEVI PULKKINEN, SEATTLEPI.COM STAFF

Published 10:59 am, Thursday, October 1, 2015



A Seattle woman fresh from jail after a nunchuk attack is now accused of chasing a stranger off a King County Metro bus – with a sword.

Facing her third assault-related charge of the year, Sharnika Joy Armstead is accused of dashing after a man who jostled her aboard a downtown bus. Armstead, a recently homeless West Seattle resident, is accused of waving a sheathed short sword at the object of her ire.

Armstead, 26, had been released from King County Jail six weeks before the Sept. 14 incident. She served a 74-day stint after bashing a two men with nunchuks during a shampoo theft from a North Seattle supermarket.

Charged Tuesday in the bus incident, Armstead is also accused of brutally beating another woman at a Belltown women’s shelter on Aug. 19. Prosecutors claim Armstead, in a “vicious and unprovoked assault,” punched the other woman repeatedly in the head to steal her makeup bag.

Armstead’s current spate of legal troubles began May 18, when she beat up two men at a Grocery Outlet store in Seattle’s Lake City neighborhood.

Armed with homemade nunchuks, Armstead attacked the store owner after she was caught stealing a bottle of shampoo from the discount grocery. Armstead bit a store employee during the fight.

Armstead was arrested at the scene and ultimately sentenced to three months in jail for the assaults. She was released July 31.

She is alleged to have seriously hurt another woman at Angeline’s Center for Homeless Women two weeks later. According to charging papers, Armstead punched the woman repeatedly in the face while stealing her makeup bag.

Armstead remained free until Sept. 14, when she is alleged to have accosted a man on a Metro Transit D Line bus.



At 2:30 p.m. that day, Armstead was sleeping on Ballard-bound bus as it approached Bell Street on Third Avenue. Another passenger apparently bumped Armstead as he sat down next to her.

Awake and upset, Armstead slapped the man in the face, according to charging papers. The man called 911 and stepped off the bus. Armstead followed.

Armstead drew what witnesses initially thought was a “stick-like object” that had been tucked down the back of her hooded sweatshirt, a King County Sheriff’s Office detective said in charging papers. Investigators claim it was actually a sheathed, 18-inch sword.

When deputies arrived to arrest her, Armstead had tucked the sword back into its hiding spot along her spine, the detective continued. Deputies reported that Armstead struggled with them during her arrest, kicking one in the chest.

Armstead has been charged with attempted second-degree assault in the bus incident. She also faces a first-degree robbery charge in the August incident at the women’s shelter. She remains jailed on $155,000 bail.

Seattlepi.com reporter Levi Pulkkinen can be reached at 206-448-8348 or levipulkkinen@seattlepi.com. Follow Levi on Twitter at twitter.com/levipulk.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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liberty.

"roof is a white southern conservative" ????

wtf?

roof was a fucking Nazi. you are an idiot.

forgive me, but I think that you are either a creation of Joe s imagination or you are one of the nutcases we have to worry about.

you seem to defend roof far too often (once is far too often)

have you ever seen alan colmes on Fox? he cannot be a real liberal. he is just a repellent caricature of a liberal designed to make you all look stupid.

liberty strikes me as just the same.

are you a Mormon in warren jeff s cult?

do you hang out with david Koresh types?

if you are not a nutcase, please be quiet. you do conservatives harm every time that you speak.

(me defending conservatives, see what you crazy ass, dishonest liberals have brought me to?)

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liberty wrote:
Guinevere wrote:Meade, please stop feeding the troll!

To you I am a troll because I say things you don’t like. I have no desire to upset anyone, but when something is bothering me I am going to get it off my chest. Sorry I mean no offense to you or anyone else, personally.
The last thing in the world that bothers or upsets me are people saying things I don't like. You are a troll because you only have one message here - which is that "liberals" are the root of all evil ( although I'm not even convinced you know what a liberal is). And what's even worse, when you're called on it you backpedal or obfuscate or deny and try to argue - as you posted above, that you're a "nice guy. "

And before anyone points out that rubato has often the opposite message, and makes it on a regular basis, it is not the only thing he posts here. Plus I have to give him credit that he at least owns his beliefs and isn't afraid to stand behind them.
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wesw wrote:liberty.
......

(me defending conservatives, see what you crazy ass, dishonest liberals have brought me to?)
Why is lib's nsanity the responsibility of liberals? Comments like that bring you right down to his level.
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I m not talking about defending Liberty. he falls into the lunatic fringe in my book.

(Red Ryder-Lunatic Fringe..., rocks!!!)

I m talking about defending the same people who blatantly deny climate change, while at the same time buying up Alaskan property because the climate is changing there so rapidly. why do you think that there 15 reality shows about Alaska on TV?....
...because it is rapidly warming and becoming more hospitable to people.

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there you go guin, a dig at repubs....

they are easy enough to make, but don t expect many from me, until after the election, because I really want them to win......

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That wasn't my point.
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liberty wrote:
MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Which regional and political group did this guy belong to, after all he was trying to make the country a better place by eliminating as many
Christians as he could. John Brown of the twenty first century?
John Brown planned and executed the plan for the capture of a Federal arsenal at Harper's Ferry in the expectation that black slaves would rally to him in order to be armed for the insurrection that would eventually free all the blacks held in the south. He did this in conjunction with a number of armed supporters including two free black men. As bad fortune might have it, their first victim was a free black man of Harper's Ferry.

Chris Harper-Mercer was a lone gunman, emotionally disturbed - a terrorist thug who wanted only to kill people at random. His question is irrelevant - he randomly chose the people and place for his act of selfish insanity.

The purpose of your posting escapes me entirely. What possible connection can you draw between these two people?


Roof is a white southern conservative, but this guy is just some lone nut. It was continually pointed out who roof was to generate feelings of quilt among of white southerners; it was never said but the implication was there. However, the world view of this new shooter is not important, hypocrisy. I would bet he is a liberal; from what I have seen on the web anti-Christian sentiment is common among liberals.
KISS - repeat after me: "I don't have a sensible answer to your question, Meade. Do you mind if I drag in Dylan Roof instead?"
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And before anyone points out that rubato has often the opposite message, and makes it on a regular basis, it is not the only thing he posts here.
That's quite true...

In addition to the message "conservatives are the root of all evil" he also brings the message, "Christians are the root of all evil" and the message "Republicans are the root of all evil"...

So yes, his approach is much more diverse...
Plus I have to give him credit that he at least owns his beliefs and isn't afraid to stand behind them.
I also can't argue with you there...

Rube will stand steadfastly and unswervingly by a belief he has posted, not matter how conclusively he is shown to be factually wrong. No one here does that with more tenacity than he.

ETA:
I would bet he is a liberal; from what I have seen on the web anti-Christian sentiment is common among liberals.
Lib, as I posted, he actually claimed in his own online profile to be a conservative...

There's no thematic coherence to the various beliefs that he claims to have ascribed to. Which goes to the point Meade made here that what truly motivated him to commit his heinous acts was his emotionally disturbed nature.
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joe, it occurred to me earlier, after reading your post, as I was tightly cinching my leather weightlifting belt over my t-shirt and elastic back brace and blue jeans and regular leather belt, as my organs begin to ache from the compression, and as I slipped my larger t-shirt over my rig, to conceal it all...

...it occurred to me that...., that my days of physically confronting, or even threatening to confront, violent bullies and nutjobs...., well...., those days are looooong gone.

even if my back doesn t go out (as it did two days ago, when I coughed without bracing myself) as I charge them, I ll only have about 20 seconds of extreme exertion before I collapse, gasping for breath. (I can still go slow and steady tho!!!)

(the sentence too long for one paragraph! :) )

I can t defend my family and I can t run , joe.

this place I live is nice enough. there are desperate and violent people around tho. violence and even murder are not that unusual here. heroin can be had, right around the corner. thank god that crack isn t prevalent anymore.

joe, I got a .22 marlin bolt action and .410 stevens-savage single shot, for my 13th birth day and I ve had a long gun of sometype ever since.

I ve never felt the need for a handgun before, but since I have become rather defenseless against this violent world I have seriously considered getting a handgun. if ididn t live across the street from the communist wealth of Maryland, I would probably have a permit and a handgun now. DE has open carry but I don t want to do that unless there is imminent danger or something.

I do appreciate your serious thoughts tho, they are often insightful.
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if you ever blippety blah blah me again..., I swear I ll fly out to CA and..., no I ll drive my 75 ford out to CA and..., GIVE YOU BIG WET KISSES!!!)
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I have no objection to repealing the 2nd amendment - there are plenty of countries where citizens live as freely as we do without such a right enshrined in their constitution. More freely, in fact, because they live free of the fear of becoming a target in one of the all too common mass shootings that we in the US have become accustomed to.

That being said, I don't see a repeal happening, or even significant change in the current laws, without a huge change in our political system, which doesn't appear likely in the near future.

What would be nice to see in the alternative is fully funded abundant mental health screenings and treatment resources in every workplace, school, and community, so we could ostensibly prevent many of these tragedies by finding and treating the mental illnesses that are at the root of most.

Of course that's not going to happen either - we don't seem to care about the millions unemployed, homeless and hungry in this country, we certainly don't give a shit if people are happy, or even reasonably well adjusted.

Therefore I expect that we will continue to see these kinds of tragedies on a regular basis. We are a very sick society that values property over lives, we can't really expect any different.
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wesw wrote:liberty.



you seem to defend roof far too often (once is far too often)

?)

How have I defended Roof ? I want to understand him and what brought him to where he is now; how is that defending him? Why should I defend him he has done great harm to my people? I want him to die and he should be grateful the people of South Carolina would be willing end his misery. The state should make an exception for Roof and execute him by public televised hanging as an example. Maybe then there would be some closure for us all.
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