Active Shooter Situation in CA

[wesw]

CAIR cries crocodile tears. and jumped in when the brother in law started to say too much.

fuck CAIR, they would kill us all

they hold a press conference but won t allow relevant questions, fuck em and feed em pork

[Econoline]

leave it to econo to spout the presidents speaking points before the bodies cool.

Huh???? You've never heard of The Onion, wes????

The Onion reposts this article every time there's another mass shooting. Comedy as platform, mirror, and tragedy.

[Guinevere]

this is not the only nation where this happens , it is not even the nation where it happens most.

I m not going to bother the list of countries where it happens more, we are all informed people and we know already.

bad enough that you turn it into a way to further your political agenda before the bodies cool, but you do it with blatant lies.

You're entirely wrong and you've been given the data to demonstrate that at least twice here, maybe three times. So, for the last time, share your refuting data or prove *yourself* to be the liar here.

[wesw]

no econo, I don t get my news from comedy outlets

and you were the one who posted the article, from the onion, the same words that the president has said for the last two days, maybe he gets his info from the onion too, now that john stewart is off the air.

but by all means let s pick on each other as the Muslim extremists take over the middle east north Africa...., and Europe.

they are at war with the west and your liberal bona fides won t mean fuck to them. after you coddle them they ll cut your nuts off and put them in your mouth as a nice thank you

[BoSoxGal]

Watching FOX news today, wes?

[wesw]

fuck you guin. I never said developed nor did the pres.

you want to call people liars ? fuck you and your fucking horse. look fucking south, there s a more violent country..., go to fucking Honduras, go to the fucking central African republic. go to Libya, Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, sudan, Chicago, Syria, go to brazils favelas for an afternoon, go to that nice neighborhood in Belgium in a nice sundress and see if you come out alive, and go to your precious paris into the no go zones that you swear don t exist but that have been reported by many media outlets for the last weeks.

you are full of shit and you are all in with Hillary and you call ME a liar? fuck off

[wesw]

on the bright side...

on any given day in courtrooms around the world, half of all lawyers are on the wrong side of the verdict.

lawyers are only even odds if you are looking for truth and justice

[Guinevere]

I rest my case.

[Econoline]

"The only reason you have not been shot is because nobody has yet decided to shoot you."

Go read the article ("The Price We Pay for Liberty"); save me the bother of quoting the whole thing here.



Oh, well...just one more quote:

Justice John Marshall Harlan II, a conservative, famously described the protection of these rights as a balancing test, weighing “respect for the liberty of the individual” against “the demands of organized society”:

• The balance of which I speak is the balance struck by this country, having regard to what history teaches are the traditions from which it developed as well as the traditions from which it broke. That tradition is a living thing.

Gun advocates reject the notion that an individual right to own firearms should be balanced against everyone else’s interest in not getting shot.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... berty.html

[wesw]

well, liar , bigot , racist..., anything else you would like call me?

[wesw]

if you don t like it econoline, go amend the constitution. or have a revolution. but you ll need guns for that so.....

[Econoline]

...Honduras...central African republic...Libya, Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, sudan, Chicago, Syria...brazils favelas...Belgium...paris...

First of all, I've lived in or near Chicago my entire life and have never owned a gun, nor felt I needed to own one. Second, if you're arguing that other places in the world are more dangerous than the US but also think that Chicago is one of the most dangerous places in the world, you're either contradicting yourself or else you're too stupid to realize that Chicago is in the US; I'll let you decide which. Third, The US has had more mass shooting incidents in the past year than France and Belgium have had in the past decade; the US has 5% of the world's population but 31% of its mass shootings. And finally, do you really want to take pride in the fact that our nation is not as bad as some of the worst third-world countries in the world? Shouldn't we be aiming a bit higher than that?

if you don t like it econoline, go amend the constitution. or have a revolution. but you ll need guns for that so.....

The point of the article was that we have never needed a Constitutional amendment (or a revolution) in order to apply the principle of balancing “the liberty of the individual” against “the demands of organized society”:

Let us assume, though, that private gun ownership may be an aspect of constitutional liberty. In that case, we must balance “respect for the liberty of the individual” against “the demands on the organized society.” On one side of this equation, we have America today, which is what gun advocates have wanted all along: A freewheeling, disjointed legal framework which ultimately allows virtually anyone to access a gun. It has produced a greater number of mass shootings than this country has ever seen. On the other side, we have the possibility of fewer mass shootings and fewer gun deaths. We could make that possibility a reality, but we could only do so by limiting access to firearms. Gun advocates insist that the trade-off isn’t worth it—that endless mass shootings may simply be the price we pay for liberty. Now the country must decide: Is this liberty worth its cost in human lives?

You've obviously made your own decision and answered that question with a resounding “YES!!!!! HELL YES!!!!!” But you don't get to answer for all the rest of us, and neither does the NRA.

[Lord Jim]

fuck you guin. I never said developed nor did the pres.

you want to call people liars ? fuck you and your fucking horse. look fucking south, there s a more violent country..., go to fucking Honduras, go to the fucking central African republic. go to Libya, Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, sudan, Chicago, Syria, go to brazils favelas for an afternoon, go to that nice neighborhood in Belgium in a nice sundress and see if you come out alive, and go to your precious paris into the no go zones that you swear don t exist but that have been reported by many media outlets for the last weeks.

you are full of shit and you are all in with Hillary and you call ME a liar? fuck off

My my...

As we say around my house occasionally, sounds like somebody had Crabby Flakes for breakfast...

[Lord Jim]

Geezus, how's this for sick:

Bomb Threat Called Into Hospital Where San Bernardino Shooting Victims Are Being Treated

A bomb threat was called into Loma Lina University Medical Center, where patients from a mass shooting in nearby San Bernardino were being treated Tuesday.

The threat was phoned in at 2:40 p.m., according to a brief statement from the hospital, which is the only Level I trauma center in the Inland Empire.

Classes at the teaching hospital in Loma Linda were cancelled, and students were urged to leave public areas of the campus.

Law enforcement was working to screen the hospital campus to ensure safety.

Following a K-9 search, the "code yellow" alert connected to the threat was lifted after 3:30 p.m., a spokeswoman said.

http://ktla.com/2015/12/02/san-bernardi ... al-center/

I REALLY hope they catch the twisted fuck who pulled this, and throw the book at them...

[MajGenl.Meade]

wesw, it would be nice if you cut out the personal abuse from your posts. It's demeaning to you and disgusting to anyone else.

Also troublesome is your sudden habit of making a categorical statement such as "Most X are Y" and then refusing to provide any data/information demonstrating that "Most X are Y" is not just something you pulled out of your rectum

[MajGenl.Meade]

Baccari described Farook as reserved and said he showed no signs of unusual behavior. Earlier this year he flew to Saudi Arabia and returned with a wife, later growing a beard, Baccari said

Apparently that's not unusual - flying to Saudi Arabia and returning with a wife. I guess he made a habit of it

They have a child that they made certain was left with a carer. The couple togged up, tooled up and went out and shot 30 or so people, 14 fatally.

What was it someone wrote about an incident a few days earlier? Something about... not knowing the religious persuasion of a shooter but (because it was a shooting at PP) well.... one probably can guess at that. Profiling much?

[Guinevere]

wesw, it would be nice if you cut out the personal abuse from your posts. It's demeaning to you and disgusting to anyone else.

Also troublesome is your sudden habit of making a categorical statement such as "Most X are Y" and then refusing to provide any data/information demonstrating that "Most X are Y" is not just something you pulled out of your rectum

Good luck with that. And it's not a sudden habit. He's been making unsupported assertions almost as long as he has been posting here. On 11/14 I tried to explain to him why that was problematic and gave him the following advice:

Perhaps you will learn that Sue doesn't make shit up. Unlike you - who never posts data or facts to support your arguments and positions. When asked to back up your statements your typical response is to either ignore, change the question, or dissemble. And that's why you're losing not gaining respect here.

Oh, and now it's attack and name-call, too.

[wesw]

don t presume to speak for me econo. I never said anything about accepting this as part of life.

fight crime and illegal immigration and most of the problem is solved. call a nut a nut and quit being offended by every foul breeze that blows.

Chicago is an example of what your thinking leads too. enjoy your city.

the black and Hispanic and white drug gangs are responsible for most of these 'mass shootings. god forbid that we should lock anyone up or deport anyone or even secure our own border.

there are solutions, staunch your bleeding heart and grow a set of testes and quit reveling in your white guilt.

tell me again how great your city is. the one where the gangs execute 9 yr olds. I didn t name it chiraq, that was the gang guys.

when they say jump you say 'how high?'.

the city where your police force coddles murderous members and your mayor is a vile rat of a man.

maybe you can get one of your beloved cities finest to come pump 16 rounds into me. then just keep it a secret. you can say, "i never knew"

like your precious mayor and your precious lying president and your precious weather underground members

the sixties are calling, they want their aging commies back

[wesw]

oh really guin, you leave for a week, calling me a racist bigot as you go, and return calling me a liar, then blast me for name calling?

fuck you.

[wesw]

....and meade, you have been doing better, but there is still a beam in your own eye, so perhaps the mote in mine isn t your main concern.

when I first came here you made quite a few personal attacks on me on a daily basis for a while, and you don t always turn the other cheek with rube either.

I recognize my failing, but guin is no Angel in this exchange either. go judge a wet t shirt contest and leave my accounting to my own conscience and to the lord.