Adding that I was not being offensive. Fry refers to himself in the same and much worse terms in much the same unashamed and cynical way that Kenneth Williams (although more obliquely; he may have been genuinely self-deprecating) and Quentin Crisp used to do. If anyone gets a chance to see John Hurt in 1975s "The Naked Civil Servant" it's highly recommended; I remember watching it with my parents. Great production and an interesting man, Crisp.
Gob: latest tag line. Another great movie adaptation of a great book
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For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
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Indeed, I remember that well. Extraordinary in the day to see a positive prorayal of a gay man. Up to that point Mr Humphries was the nearest you got.MajGenl.Meade wrote: If anyone gets a chance to see John Hurt in 1975s "The Naked Civil Servant" it's highly recommended; I remember watching it with my parents. Great production and an interesting man, Crisp.
I defy you to do your worst. It can hardly be my worst. Mine has already and often happened to me. You cannot touch me now. I am one of the "stately homos of England".
MajGenl.Meade wrote:Gob: latest tag line. Another great movie adaptation of a great book
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“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Bird on a wire? I had a grainy pirate of that on video - an e-Bay rip-off unfortunately. Live at the Izzly of widgit? (drool). I'm your man? Star trek V?
oh..... I was all excited for a moment
Thanks for the offer but I'll decline the CO with great appreciation for your kindness
Cheers
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oh..... I was all excited for a moment
Thanks for the offer but I'll decline the CO with great appreciation for your kindnessCheers
Meade
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
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No worries mate.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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I've been meaning to ask your opinion on this...
This letter was written on July 14, 1863, the day that Lincoln learned that Lee's Army of Northern Virginia had escaped back across the Potomac and had successfully avoided further battle with Meade's army. Frustrated with the events, Lincoln penned this letter to Meade but never sent it. Even though Meade never read the letter, it does clearly show how Lincoln felt about Meade's actions after the battle of Gettysburg.
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all in all, have just seen your dispatch to Gen. Halleck, asking to be relieved of your command, because of a supposed censure of mine. I am very--very--grateful to you for the magnificent success you gave the cause of the country at Gettysburg; and I am sorry now to be the author of the slightest pain to you. But I was in such deep distress myself that I could not restrain some expression of it.
I had been oppressed nearly ever since the battles at Gettysburg, by what appeared to be evidences that yourself, and Gen. Couch, and Gen. Smith, were not seeking a collision with the enemy, but were trying to get him across the river without another battle. What these evidences were, if you please, I hope to tell you at some time, when we shall both feel better.
The case, summarily stated is this. You fought and beat the enemy at Gettysburg; and, of course, to say the least, his loss was as great as yours. He retreated; and you did not, as it seemed to me, pressingly pursue him; but a flood in the river detained him, till, by slow degrees, you were again upon him.
You had at least twenty thousand veteran troops directly with you, and as many more raw ones within supporting distance, in addition to those who fought with you at Gettysburg; while it was not possible that he had received a single recruit; and yet you stood and let the flood run down, bridges be built, and the enemy move away at his leisure, without attacking him. And Couch and Smith... The latter left Carlisle in time, upon all ordinary calculation, to have aided you in the last battle at Gettysburg; but he did not arrive. At the end of more than ten days, I believe twelve, under constant urging, he reached Hagerstown from Carlisle, which is not an inch over fifty-five miles, if so much. And Couch's movement was very little different.
Again, my dear general, I do not believe you appreciate the magnitude of the misfortune involved in Lee's escape. He was within your easy grasp, and to have closed upon him would, in connection with our other late successes, have ended the war. As it is, the war will be prolonged indefinitely. If you could not safely attack Lee last Monday, how can you possibly do so South of the river, when you can take with you very few more than two thirds of the force you then had in hand? It would be unreasonable to expect, and I do not expect you can now effect much. Your golden opportunity is gone, and I am distressed immeasurably because of it.
I beg you will not consider this a prosecution, or persecution of yourself As you had learned that I was dissatisfied, I have thought it best to kindly tell you why
Abraham Lincoln[/i]
This letter was written on July 14, 1863, the day that Lincoln learned that Lee's Army of Northern Virginia had escaped back across the Potomac and had successfully avoided further battle with Meade's army. Frustrated with the events, Lincoln penned this letter to Meade but never sent it. Even though Meade never read the letter, it does clearly show how Lincoln felt about Meade's actions after the battle of Gettysburg.
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all in all, have just seen your dispatch to Gen. Halleck, asking to be relieved of your command, because of a supposed censure of mine. I am very--very--grateful to you for the magnificent success you gave the cause of the country at Gettysburg; and I am sorry now to be the author of the slightest pain to you. But I was in such deep distress myself that I could not restrain some expression of it.
I had been oppressed nearly ever since the battles at Gettysburg, by what appeared to be evidences that yourself, and Gen. Couch, and Gen. Smith, were not seeking a collision with the enemy, but were trying to get him across the river without another battle. What these evidences were, if you please, I hope to tell you at some time, when we shall both feel better.
The case, summarily stated is this. You fought and beat the enemy at Gettysburg; and, of course, to say the least, his loss was as great as yours. He retreated; and you did not, as it seemed to me, pressingly pursue him; but a flood in the river detained him, till, by slow degrees, you were again upon him.
You had at least twenty thousand veteran troops directly with you, and as many more raw ones within supporting distance, in addition to those who fought with you at Gettysburg; while it was not possible that he had received a single recruit; and yet you stood and let the flood run down, bridges be built, and the enemy move away at his leisure, without attacking him. And Couch and Smith... The latter left Carlisle in time, upon all ordinary calculation, to have aided you in the last battle at Gettysburg; but he did not arrive. At the end of more than ten days, I believe twelve, under constant urging, he reached Hagerstown from Carlisle, which is not an inch over fifty-five miles, if so much. And Couch's movement was very little different.
Again, my dear general, I do not believe you appreciate the magnitude of the misfortune involved in Lee's escape. He was within your easy grasp, and to have closed upon him would, in connection with our other late successes, have ended the war. As it is, the war will be prolonged indefinitely. If you could not safely attack Lee last Monday, how can you possibly do so South of the river, when you can take with you very few more than two thirds of the force you then had in hand? It would be unreasonable to expect, and I do not expect you can now effect much. Your golden opportunity is gone, and I am distressed immeasurably because of it.
I beg you will not consider this a prosecution, or persecution of yourself As you had learned that I was dissatisfied, I have thought it best to kindly tell you why
Abraham Lincoln[/i]
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Ah.... yes.... all this will be explained in the forthcoming book "Flashman: North and South" which I am at present working on. Besides it was raining. It was Sickles? Men don't ask for directions? Snapping turtle and the hare?
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
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Well, that explains why when I googled "Leonard Nimoy in a hat" I could not find it. That you Lord Jam for wasting my time. 