http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-1127 ... z2meQuBz71Judge orders Sriracha hot sauce plant partly closed over odors
Irwindale sued the plant after residents complained about ill health caused by smells emanating from the plant.
A Los Angeles County Superior Court judge Tuesday ordered a Sriracha hot sauce plant in Irwindale be partially shut down in response to odor complaints from nearby residents.
Judge Robert H. O'Brien ruled in favor of the city and ordered sauce maker Huy Fong Foods to cease any kind of operations that could be causing the odors and make immediate changes that would help mitigate them.
It used to make everything taste better
It used to make everything taste better
Just behind in bacon in making everything taste better, Sriracha may be harder for some of us to find. Don't the needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few?
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Re: It used to make everything taste better
I don't know how I'll break this to my son, who consumes sriracha pretty much by the gallon. (He was using it at Thanksgiving dinner, for goodness sake.)
GAH!
Re: It used to make everything taste better
A little engineering will make the problem go away. They were just too cheap and lazy to listen to the neighbors.
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Re: It used to make everything taste better
The real problem with odors is that for some people, no matter what you do, they will still smell it, or claim that they do. Some people are much more sensitive than others, and some people are just bothered by the fact that an activity they don't like, or don't approve of, is going on. Engineering can take care of the former, but not the latter. And from the article, we really don't know what type of neighbors are complaining, those who have a legitimate concern, or cranks.
Re: It used to make everything taste better
These cry babies should just be grateful they don't live next to a Marmite factory....



Re: It used to make everything taste better
There is usually a reasonable technological fix for odor issues from manufacturing, but, as so often happens, the company doesn't want to make the expense. Until they are sued, and ordered to cease and desist from manufacturing.
I had to file a similar lawsuit this summer, and once the injunction papers were filed, the company finally came to the table and was willing to commit to installing the necessary equipment. Once they agreed to a reasonable and enforceable order for installation, we let them continue manufacturing.
That's the most expensive way to do it, but sometimes the only way that works.
FWIW, repeated omission of offensive odors from regulated entities is a violation of state and local air pollution laws and regulations, in Massachusetts.
I had to file a similar lawsuit this summer, and once the injunction papers were filed, the company finally came to the table and was willing to commit to installing the necessary equipment. Once they agreed to a reasonable and enforceable order for installation, we let them continue manufacturing.
That's the most expensive way to do it, but sometimes the only way that works.
FWIW, repeated omission of offensive odors from regulated entities is a violation of state and local air pollution laws and regulations, in Massachusetts.
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Re: It used to make everything taste better
Guin--I agree that sometimes a suit is the only reasonable thing to do; I am just . saying that you c an sometimes be dealing with cranks as well, and I just don't know what is happening here. I recall dealing with a similar issue at one company I worked at where this person was complaining about light from the parking lot. We tried proposing a couple of remedial measures, but this guy kept coming back and trying to get more and more, saying the light was bothering him. We eventually ended up in court where the judge imposed a "remedy" he didn't like (we put in a couple of trees near his property line, something we had proposed earlier--we thought about asking for attorney fees, but since he was a neighbor we just figured we'd leave well enough alone).
FWIW, it wasn't that the light had changed, this guy moved in and then began his litany of complaints. I'm certain that the light bothered him, but you do have to put up with some inconvenience when you move next to a parking lot. I think what he actually was trying to get us to do was to move the light closest to his property, but we didn't want to incur that expense.
And I think the same thing happens with odors. For some people, unless you stop the process altogether, they won't be happy. And while a lawsuit is never the best way to resolve most disputes, it might well be the best way when you have someone like that on the other side of the bargaining table.
FWIW, it wasn't that the light had changed, this guy moved in and then began his litany of complaints. I'm certain that the light bothered him, but you do have to put up with some inconvenience when you move next to a parking lot. I think what he actually was trying to get us to do was to move the light closest to his property, but we didn't want to incur that expense.
And I think the same thing happens with odors. For some people, unless you stop the process altogether, they won't be happy. And while a lawsuit is never the best way to resolve most disputes, it might well be the best way when you have someone like that on the other side of the bargaining table.
Re: It used to make everything taste better
I thought a Marmite factory was a brewery...Lord Jim wrote:These cry babies should just be grateful they don't live next to a Marmite factory....
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is
Re: It used to make everything taste better
I just checked, and we currently have nine different varieties of hot sauce in our cupboard for all occasions, (including Sriracha, habanero, Tabasco, hot wing sauce, and a couple with labels written in Chinese and Spanish that I can't tell what they are) as well as dried crushed peppers...
In the fridge we've got horseradish, kimchee, some fresh jalapenos, Wasabi (both sauce and paste) and a couple of varieties of hot mustard, (Chinese and Mr. Mustard which I have to order on line because I can't seem to find it out here.)
Aside from sweet things, (desserts, cereal, pancakes, etc.) and fruit, there are very few foods I don't add some kind of heat to....
In the fridge we've got horseradish, kimchee, some fresh jalapenos, Wasabi (both sauce and paste) and a couple of varieties of hot mustard, (Chinese and Mr. Mustard which I have to order on line because I can't seem to find it out here.)
Aside from sweet things, (desserts, cereal, pancakes, etc.) and fruit, there are very few foods I don't add some kind of heat to....



Re: It used to make everything taste better
Might as well be a rendering plant...Rick wrote:I thought a Marmite factory was a brewery...Lord Jim wrote:These cry babies should just be grateful they don't live next to a Marmite factory....
I think it would be less unpleasant to live next door to a tannery....



Re: It used to make everything taste better
Jim--
Me too! As the thread title says, the heat makes things taste much better.there are very few foods I don't add some kind of heat to....
Re: It used to make everything taste better
Marmite mmmmmm
Also Sri Racha is a weak assed condiment. I hear they use it for weaning babies in Thailand
Also Sri Racha is a weak assed condiment. I hear they use it for weaning babies in Thailand

Re: It used to make everything taste better
Daisy--it's not all that hot as I recall (although the one with the rooster on it is hotter than the one with the bird); I'd probably place it as hot as a standard buffalo wing sauce (kind of like Frank's Hot sauce), not very spicy, but if I were a woman I don't think I'd want to rub it on my nipples, even if it was to wean my kid.
Re: It used to make everything taste better
They'll try anything in Thailand!
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Re: It used to make everything taste better
Ah - the larder from hell. Spoiling nice food! Give it to us plain and tasty! You keep nasty sauces!...nine different varieties of hot sauce in our cupboard .... (including Sriracha, habanero, Tabasco, hot wing sauce, and a couple with labels written in Chinese and Spanish that I can't tell what they are) as well as dried crushed peppers... horseradish, kimchee, some fresh jalapenos, Wasabi (both sauce and paste) and a couple of varieties of hot mustard
Maybe a little mustard to add to the mayo on a nice hard salami sandwich on white bread....

In our cupboard we have three jars of Marmite (currently in use, spare and emergency spare).

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Re: It used to make everything taste better
I have a few hot sauces in the cupboard one we had a while ago was Who Dares Burns. Marvellous Bloody Mary cocktails with a coupe of drops of that in it. Hubby dropped the bottle, breaking it on the kitchen floor, it was like being tear gassed.
Marmite, I have a jar of standard and a jar of XO.
Marmite, I have a jar of standard and a jar of XO.
Re: It used to make everything taste better
Wow!
Our cupboard and fridge look a lot Lord Jim's (although we're out of Sriracha at the moment).
Black bean hot sauce, Cayenne pepper, Chili garlic sauce, Chinese hot mustard, Chipotle pepper, Crushed red pepper, Horseradhish mustard, Kimchi, Jalapenos, Mongolian fire oil (which is not as hot as one might expect), Pasilla pepper, Pickapeppa sauce, Red Hot, Santaka chile oil, Spicy Jerk sauce, Tabasco, Three pepper, Wasabi (paste and powder), Wasabi mustard, and
for those for whom the sweaty forehead is just not enough, Dave's Private Reserve 2008.
As I've mentioned before, it is possible for people to have a lot in common, even if their respective political opinions infuriate each other.
Blaze on!
Our cupboard and fridge look a lot Lord Jim's (although we're out of Sriracha at the moment).
Black bean hot sauce, Cayenne pepper, Chili garlic sauce, Chinese hot mustard, Chipotle pepper, Crushed red pepper, Horseradhish mustard, Kimchi, Jalapenos, Mongolian fire oil (which is not as hot as one might expect), Pasilla pepper, Pickapeppa sauce, Red Hot, Santaka chile oil, Spicy Jerk sauce, Tabasco, Three pepper, Wasabi (paste and powder), Wasabi mustard, and
for those for whom the sweaty forehead is just not enough, Dave's Private Reserve 2008.
As I've mentioned before, it is possible for people to have a lot in common, even if their respective political opinions infuriate each other.
Blaze on!
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Re: It used to make everything taste better
For the benefit of Lord Jim. 'Tis the season to be jolly....

Andrew D wrote:Wow!
Our cupboard and fridge look a lot Lord Jim's (although we're out of Sriracha at the moment).
Black bean hot sauce, Cayenne pepper, Chili garlic sauce, Chinese hot mustard, Chipotle pepper, Crushed red pepper, Horseradhish mustard, Kimchi, Jalapenos, Mongolian fire oil (which is not as hot as one might expect), Pasilla pepper, Pickapeppa sauce, Red Hot, Santaka chile oil, Spicy Jerk sauce, Tabasco, Three pepper, Wasabi (paste and powder), Wasabi mustard, and
for those for whom the sweaty forehead is just not enough, Dave's Private Reserve 2008.
As I've mentioned before, it is possible for people to have a lot in common, even if their respective political opinions infuriate each other.
Blaze on!
Re: It used to make everything taste better
I think a dude I work with tried that. He said it was "OK; not that strong, but not bad." This is the dude who calls the hottest available salsa (GMG "Flamethrower") "mild" and a typical (Tostitos, Pace, etc.) "hot" salsa "why bother?" His homemade salsa (made with cayenne and habanero peppers) will EAT a plastic bowl. A whiff of it made my eyes water.Daisy wrote:I have a few hot sauces in the cupboard one we had a while ago was Who Dares Burns. Marvellous Bloody Mary cocktails with a coupe of drops of that in it. Hubby dropped the bottle, breaking it on the kitchen floor, it was like being tear gassed.
Marmite, I have a jar of standard and a jar of XO.
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