Plan B Forum

Get the hell out of December. Seriously.

We got a little over 8 inches of snow here yesterday, which was fun (kinda) while it lasted, but we've got 40 degrees, rain and lots of melt going on today.

Just a flurry here on LI with rain mostly. I hate 30-something and rain. I would rather have 20 degrees and snow.

I was at the Jet game yesterday, thankfully the weather held and we had no real problems getting back home. The traffic reports did not sound good in NJ this morning.
The LIE was fine for my morning commute. A little slower than usually, but moving along and no accidents.

My son had the Iggles-Lions game on yesterday; the snow was so heavy you could not see across the field. After a tackle, the players would slide and the snow would pile up in berms in front of them, like a snow plow. It looked like they were sledding.

Just a little south of us in Delaware they got a foot of snow.

Sue U wrote:My son had the Iggles-Lions game on yesterday; the snow was so heavy you could not see across the field. After a tackle, the players would slide and the snow would pile up in berms in front of them, like a snow plow. It looked like they were sledding.

Just a little south of us in Delaware they got a foot of snow.

I saw the highlights of that game when I got home. Seems more than that game was played in snowy conditions.
A Great day for football.
I hope there is snow coming down for the Super Bowl.
Back in the day (during HS and after) my friends and I used to play football every Sunday and the snowy days were by far the best. Even in college, I would get on the bus from Buffalo to Syracuse on friday afternoon to go and play football with my buddies who were Orangmen. I remember playing tackle in a foot or two of snow.
Those were the days.

Too warm to sleep here last night, horrible.

Cold cold freezing rain on top of snow. Hunkering down with the husband all cozy and warm makes it all worth it though.

I hope there is snow coming down for the Super Bowl.

Do you really want the outcome of that game, a single game championship, to be influenced by the weather. I used to love playing football in the snow, and also watching games in the snow; but when there is a single game championship, I honestly wouldn't want to see weather having any hand in the outcome.

It's been colder than a well digger's ass around here (points to whoever knows what song that phrase is from) for the past week, rarely getting out of the 40s. (Yeah I know that's not real impressive to you folks in the mid-west or northeast, but it's pretty unusual for Frisco.)

At night it's been getting down below freezing, (again, this is pretty unusual; we had a snap like this last February and I almost landed on my ass slipping on a patch of ice...not something you generally look out for in this town...)

By 9:15 this morning, it had only gotten up to 35...(Now it's warmed up to a toasty 43)

Before that snap last February, I can't remember the time we had multiple nights with the temp going down to freezing around here...

Unfortunately it's also been crystal clear every day, and what we really need is for a whole series of storm systems to come through, and a good few days of solid rain. (We got a few hours dousing Friday night, but by Saturday morning it had all cleared out.)

Something by Tom Waites, can't remember the title.

Jim--I remember a Tom Waits song with that as a line (forget the name though); could that be the song you're referring to? The one Gob is referring to as well. Diamond something?

I would think the phrase predates that song.

You guys are right, it's Tom Waits...

It's from Diamonds On My Windshield (great trucker song)

My heart bleeds naught for you and your SanFran style cold LJ.

Then I guess you're really not going to be impressed when I start whining about how we've even had to run the heat for hours at a time...

Big RR wrote:

I hope there is snow coming down for the Super Bowl.

Do you really want the outcome of that game, a single game championship, to be influenced by the weather. I used to love playing football in the snow, and also watching games in the snow; but when there is a single game championship, I honestly wouldn't want to see weather having any hand in the outcome.

Yeah, I want snow during the game. Both teams play in the same conditions. Weather plays a part in the games for the teams on the way to the Super Bowl, let it be a factor in the Super Bowl.

People were saying Payton Manning could not play well in the cold. I think he put that to rest yesterday.
Miami is a warm weather team and Pittsburgh a cold weather team. Miami won in Pittsburgh in the cold/snow yesterday.

Football is played in the elements (other than lightning) every week during the regular season and playoffs. Why should the Superbowl not be subject to the same?

It's been rough weather down here in Redwood City also. We had 5 mph winds that nearly blew a petal off of a rose in my backyard.

Lord Jim wrote:Then I guess you're really not going to be impressed when I start whining about how we've even had to run the heat for hours at a time...

I may put on some sad violin music in your honor.

Football is played in the elements (other than lightning) every week during the regular season and playoffs. Why should the Superbowl not be subject to the same?

For the same reason the superbowl is generally played at a neutral location, to make sure the outcome does not favor one team over the other. And while Miami did win in Pittsburgh yesterday, the statistics do show that warm weather teams do worse in places like Lambeau. If we had a two or three game championship, I might feel different, but in a single game I'd much rather have the skill of the teams decide it rather than the weather.

The regular season if 16 games, so it's not quite as much of a factor as the teams travel. The playoffs are designed to give the teams with a better record the advantage of the home field. But the superbowl is supposed to be based soely on the skill of the teams.

For the same reason the superbowl is generally played at a neutral location, to make sure the outcome does not favor one team over the other.

Yes, but by the same token teams that play at least half of their season in warm weather should have an advantage in a warm weather venue over teams that are used to playing at least half their games in the cold...(Also, neutral location isn't a conscious decision; the game venues are decided several years in advance, and there's no way to know whether a home team will be in it or not. It doesn't give any advantage in terms of the crowd, since the tickets are apportioned equally.)

I've always assumed that the warm weather venues had more to do with the comfort of the people attending, (most of whom are pretty well off) then anything to do with the game itself. If you're going to the Super Bowl, you don't just go for one day; you go for at least a few days , maybe a week. (Lots of parties)

In a frigid environment, you're a lot less likely to be out and about, pumping money into the local economy....

I read an article a while back that said warm weather doesn't negatively affect teams from cold cities in any significant way.

Also, you are right that the crowds would not generally be tilted to a home team, but so far as I know, no team ever played in the superbowl at its home field, and most are played in warm weather stadiums (sometimes even completely neutral ones like the orange bowl and, as I recall, the rose bowl and the LA colliseum) or domed stadiums to avoid any real benefit to the home team. This year's SB is the first I've seen in a long time in a northern, non-domed stadium (I think it was in Minneapolis a few years back, but that was domed).

As I said, I love football in snow--I was in /Shea Stadium in a blizzard the year OJ broke 2000 yards rushing (1973, Jets vs Buffalo); but I don't think it fair to make that a factor in the single game superbowl format.