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Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:26 am
by Lord Jim
Old times there are not forgotten...

Look away...look away... look away...Dixie Land...

I wish I was in Dixie, Hooray! Hooray!

In Dixie Land I'll take my stand...

And live and die in Dixie...

Look away...Look away..



Look a way down South in Dixie...

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:02 am
by Gob
Wut?

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:09 am
by Lord Jim
Wut?
Well, I found this on YouTube, and saw it as yet another example of blatant racism... 8-) (Actually, I liked the art work in the video)

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:35 pm
by Gob
The thriving cotton industry brought Jewish merchants to the southern states of the US in the 19th Century. Their synagogues once attracted hundreds of worshippers but now, many Deep South Jewish communities are preparing to shut up shop.

I didn't come to Mississippi to bury the Jews of the Delta. I did come to mourn them. But stories don't always turn out how you think.

Life is different in the Delta, a swathe of hugely fertile land on Mississippi's western border with Arkansas. Life is slower in the Delta. There's not a lot of hurrying - there's an awful lot of eating.

And the people are different too. There's the guitar-wielding rabbi. The 76-year-old bar mitzvah student. The southern belle in her 80s who goes to synagogue every Friday night.

Jews came to the Delta attracted by its wealth - they became the middlemen, serving both those who drew gold from the rich land, and those that had to pull it out of the soil. They became the merchants, selling clothes and groceries and medicines and cloth. Main Streets in small towns up and down the Delta are dotted with faded shop signs announcing Abraham's and Levy's, Goldberg's and Cohen's.


article and video here

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:08 pm
by Guinevere
Judah Benjamin, he Attorney General and later Secretary of War of the Confederacy was a jew. The first jewish cabinet member of any "United States" government.

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:13 pm
by Lord Jim
Guin, that's an interesting fact that I was unaware of...

That's one of the things I like about this place...

Every now and then I actually learn something I didn't know before... :ok

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:05 am
by MajGenl.Meade
OTOH, in December 1862, U.S. Grant issued General Order #11 in an effort to clear Jews out of Mississippi which is quoted below in a section of the never-to-be-published "Flashman, North and South":
Jesse Grant chose this unfortunate time to write to Sam to say he’d signed a contract with Mack, Stadler and Glazer to use his influence to wheedle his obliging boy into granting them permits to trade in cotton. Then he made it worse by coming down from Cincinnati to press his case. Grant tossed him out on his ear, which convinced the company to cancel the contract and Jesse to start a lawsuit against them. It also caused Sam to allow a document to be published that gave Abe Lincoln a near fit. Much of this came out after the war when Sam was running for President himself but the immediate effect upon me of Grant’s fury at Halleck and his own father was that Rawlins was unleashed.

The first I knew of it was when I was hauled up in front of Rawlins, sitting alone in front parlour of a house he’d temporarily taken possession of. I don’t think he knew it but it had been a rather high-class whorehouse and I’d enjoyed contemplating how fitting that was. That didn’t matter now. What did matter was my conviction that Grant was hiding on the other side of a partly opened door behind Rawlins who sat like a stick in a hard chair contemplating a document that he’d been writing. He made a great show of not knowing that I had been pushed into the room and so I made a great show of crossing to a comfortable chair beneath the window and plumping myself down noisily. The effect was somewhat spoiled by a tremendous wafting of face powder and perfume that escaped the cushions and stuck with me for the rest of the day. It was the last pleasant aroma that room would experience.

“Flashman,” said Rawlins with his usual lack of originality. He looked altogether too pleased with himself for my liking and I was sorry to note a certain rumbling in my guts, which in many ways have an intuition that my mind is slower to appreciate. “Do you know what this is?” He waved his hand over the document.

“Too much to hope that it’s your confession and suicide note?” I asked, still relying on Grant being in the next room and listening hard. Rawlins laugh was brief and involved no part of his face in empathetic good will.

“No, I think it’s more likely yours,” he replied. “It’s an order that General Grant will be issuing shortly. Let’s see... ah, here it is. ‘Jews, as a class violating every regulation of trade established to...’ and so on... ah, yes... ‘are hereby expelled from the Department within twenty-four hours...’ and some other things. Can that be clearer?”

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:13 am
by rubato
Guinevere wrote:Judah Benjamin, he Attorney General and later Secretary of War of the Confederacy was a jew. The first jewish cabinet member of any "United States" government.
Fritz Haber was an uber-patriotic German Jew. So ?

yrs,
rubato

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:19 am
by liberty
It is no longer the land of cotton; now it is soybeans, rice, wheat and corn. There are abandoned cotton gins all over the countryside.

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:33 pm
by Rick
No more subsidy for cotton Lib

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:03 pm
by liberty
Rick wrote:No more subsidy for cotton Lib
Do you all in Arkansas have an adequate supply of abandoned cotton gins?

I am not a farmer so all I know about cotton is what I hear from them. I am told that it cost too much to make a cotton crop and there is too many Government regulations and foreign competition.

I personally am glad for the government regulation; cotton poisons and defoliants are nasty stuff. I am not sorry to see cotton go; it brought us more troubled than good. Thank you Eli Whitney, not!

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:17 pm
by Joe Guy
I recently read that the U.S. is the world leader in exported cotton. It must be growing here somewhere.

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:58 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
There are abandoned cotton gins all over the countryside.
A new business in the making: Turn them into lawn ornaments.

Re: Oh I Wish I Was In The Land Of Cotton...

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:00 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
rubato wrote:
Guinevere wrote:Judah Benjamin, he Attorney General and later Secretary of War of the Confederacy was a jew. The first jewish cabinet member of any "United States" government.
Fritz Haber was an uber-patriotic German Jew. So ?

yrs,
rubato
rubato, if you'd bothered to read Gob's post which occasioned Guin's post, you'd see that there was some information about the influence and presence of Jews in Mississippi. That's "so".