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Astrology on the NHS?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:14 pm
by Gob
A Conservative MP has spoken of his belief in astrology and his desire to incorporate it into medicine.
David Tredinnick said he had spent 20 years studying astrology and healthcare and was convinced it could work.
The MP for Bosworth, a member of the health committee and the science and technology committee, said he was not afraid of ridicule or abuse.
"There is no logic in attacking something that has a proven track record," he told BBC News.
He said he had studied the Indian astrological system Iahiri and the way it was used by that country's government and recalled how Chris Patten, Britain's last governor of Hong Kong, had an official astrologer, whom Mr Tredinnick had consulted while on a parliamentary delegation there.
The MP recently spoke about his beliefs at the Glastonbury Festival, sharing a platform with Daily Mail astrologer Jonathan Cainer.
Recalling the experience in the House of Commons, he said he had been invited to take part because of his "radical agenda" on complementary medicine - he is vice-chairman of the government's herbals working group.
He said he had been the subject of much ridicule for his beliefs over the years, including a fake Twitter account entitled "Inside the head of David Tredinnick", but many of the sceptics who had attacked him were "bullies" who had "never studied the subjects".
"I am absolutely convinced that those who look at the map of the sky for the day that they were born and receive some professional guidance will find out a lot about themselves and it will make their lives easier," he told MPs.
Re: Astrology on the NHS?
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:10 am
by MajGenl.Meade
I am absolutely convinced that those who look at the map of the sky for the day that they were born and receive some professional guidance will find out a lot about themselves.....
Yep - they're loonies
"HI THERE, I'M RAY. I'M AN ARIES...
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:10 pm
by RayThom
... and I have absolutely no idea what that means."
Many moons and stars ago -- during the "Age of Aquarius" -- when astrology was all the rage, I used this as one of my amazing pick-up lines at the bars and clubs. That and, "Hey, baby, I'm not wearing any underwear." During the summer months on the 'Barbary Coast' of Margate NJ you'd be surprised just how effective it all was. Then, again, even the Festrunk brothers would have scored fairly often during that crack-in-time.
Nonetheless, it's a fact that our moon's gravitational pull effect the tides. (That's a science fact.) Not by the pint, gallon, or square mile, but on a cellular level. I have always contended that "at the very moment of conception" these predictable gravitation influences also effect the position of the microscopic sperm to the egg. We are, after all, about 65% saltwater. Then, nine months later all the ambiguous, voodoo, similarities, of astrology kicks in. And that's exactly where my belief in all that nonsense ends. Forces of nature beyond our control, yes, but I don't believe that astrology aptly defines any of it, or any of us, for that matter.
Now, on the other hand, I find the more "structured study" of the metaphysical principles laid down by Aristotle to be quite fascinating. More straightforward without all that "rising sign and retrograde," mumbo-jumbo that astrologers try to foist on us.
"We are stardust, we are golden, we are billion year old carbon..."
Re: Astrology on the NHS?
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:45 pm
by rubato
MajGenl.Meade wrote:I am absolutely convinced that those who look at the map of the sky for the day that they were born and receive some professional guidance will find out a lot about themselves.....
Yep - they're loonies
Amazing how the followers of any one implausible superstition find others to be ridiculous.
yrs,
rubato
Serene in the wisdom and perfect justice of treating all invisible sky gods as being equal. Sun worship is the only one that makes a lick of sense. First off, you can see the sun. Secondly, it really is the source of all life on earth.
Re: Astrology on the NHS?
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:49 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Amazing how the followers of any one implausible superstition find others to be ridiculous
.
Well you are my role model....
Re: Astrology on the NHS?
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:33 am
by Lord Jim
MajGenl.Meade wrote:Amazing how the followers of any one implausible superstition find others to be ridiculous
.
Well you are my role model....
Now that's not really fair...
Rube has demonstrated a singular tenacity for believing things that are
demonstrably and provably false; not merely "implausible"....
If he were able to argue a point that made it all the way to the level of "implausible",
that would represent a
quantum leap in reasoning skills on his part... (It would be an
enormous improvement over what he generally has on offer...)
But frankly, if experience is any guide, I don't think that's likely...